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Offline revmox  
#351 Posted : 17 January 2024 11:18:15(UTC)
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What is the minimum desirable spacing between straight C-track? Could the roadbeds of adjacent tracks touch or, in other words, is there much/any Marklin rolling stock that is wider than the base of C-track?

Thinking here of hidden storage tracks and getting the maximum into a small space.

Yes, there would be clearance issues entering and leaving the parallel sidings and some severely hacked track pieces ... but if they don't sell it, you've got make it.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#352 Posted : 17 January 2024 12:08:57(UTC)
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According to MOROP, the European association that federates national associations of railroad and model railroad enthusiasts, the distances between straight standard H0 gauge tracks - measured from track centre to track centre - should not fall below the following values:

open track: 46 mm
yards: 52 mm

Source (see point #2): https://www.morop.org/do...oads/nem/de/nem112_d.pdf
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Offline revmox  
#353 Posted : 17 January 2024 21:53:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
According to MOROP, the European association that federates national associations of railroad and model railroad enthusiasts, the distances between straight standard H0 gauge tracks - measured from track centre to track centre - should not fall below the following values:

open track: 46 mm
yards: 52 mm

Source (see point #2): https://www.morop.org/do...oads/nem/de/nem112_d.pdf



Thanks Ak,

Centre to centre distance of two C-track straights pushed together is 40mm. The rolling stock envelope specified in NEM 301 is 40mm (kinematic for new stuff, static for old stuff). So 46mm should pretty much ensure 6mm clearance between rolling stock IF your rolling stock is compliant.


https://morop.org/images...NEM_E/nem301_en_2018.pdf

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#354 Posted : 20 January 2024 15:00:48(UTC)
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Special Hosenträger variations
HT2023a .jpg
See post #320 for red track "2417x"
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Offline rbw993  
#355 Posted : 20 January 2024 16:35:32(UTC)
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Large version with no R1. Don't know how to attach a scarm file as an image, sorry.


Large Hosentrager.pdf (106kb) downloaded 72 time(s).
Modeling Immensee, mile/km 0 on the Gottard. SBB Era V.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#356 Posted : 29 February 2024 02:31:01(UTC)
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4 short sidings with alternatives -
Some ideas borrowed from this topic Sidings geometry.
Posted by Alex H
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Next two images posted by PacoM
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Kimball


HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#357 Posted : 01 November 2024 00:06:06(UTC)
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Mental game on 110x190 cm.
2024X2.jpg
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#358 Posted : 01 November 2024 00:17:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Mental game on 110x190 cm.


Now try the exercise of interlocking all those diamond crossings ... Blink

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#359 Posted : 01 November 2024 00:24:01(UTC)
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... and on 94x174 cm.
2024XY-3D.jpg
3.5% incline & defused S-curves.
2024XY1.jpg
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Offline rbw993  
#360 Posted : 01 November 2024 02:36:46(UTC)
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I think you bypassed the exercise request.
Modeling Immensee, mile/km 0 on the Gottard. SBB Era V.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#361 Posted : 01 November 2024 14:21:27(UTC)
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There, it works perfectly with one train at a time.RollEyes
exercise.jpg
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Offline LeoArietis  
#362 Posted : 26 January 2025 14:24:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Mental game on 110x190 cm.
2024X2.jpg


It’s the smallest single line, single level folded dog-bone.
Current layout:
http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0
The former project:
http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097
With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish
Transitation-curves in C-track:
https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
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Offline LeoArietis  
#363 Posted : 31 January 2025 15:48:52(UTC)
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Maybe these have been posted before?

loop
Current layout:
http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0
The former project:
http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097
With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish
Transitation-curves in C-track:
https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
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Offline LeoArietis  
#364 Posted : 31 January 2025 16:47:23(UTC)
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The most forgotten track piece is 24001.

End your stub track short.

tiny-layout

Marklin 24001

Bumper signal



Current layout:
http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0
The former project:
http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097
With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish
Transitation-curves in C-track:
https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
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Offline LeoArietis  
#365 Posted : 20 February 2025 16:16:52(UTC)
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Roundhouse pretzel

roundhouse-pretzel.gif

roundhouse-diagon1.gif

When the bridge is in the right position you can use it as a loop for turning the direction of a train.
Current layout:
http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0
The former project:
http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097
With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish
Transitation-curves in C-track:
https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
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Offline dave55uk  
#366 Posted : 21 February 2025 12:26:14(UTC)
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Think that would only work in one direction - running anti-clockwise to clockwise.
Because if you were running a train clockwise, to reverse the direction of it,
you would use the diagonal (top left-bottom right) to reverse the direction.
And then, after that, if you used the turntable as suggested, you'd be back to running clockwise again.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#367 Posted : 04 July 2025 15:50:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
[...] How to squeeze four tracks of equal length on a 22 cm shelf with a 40 cm long throat. The double slip turnout on the right side can bet replaced by a simple 24611/2 turnout.ablaufberg2kondensiert.png

Same, same, but different.

3x2461x.jpg
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Offline LeoArietis  
#368 Posted : 09 July 2025 12:12:30(UTC)
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I miss examples with the now available and earlier missing piece 24720 in this thread.
Current layout:
http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0
The former project:
http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097
With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish
Transitation-curves in C-track:
https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#369 Posted : 09 July 2025 19:00:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LeoArietis Go to Quoted Post
I miss examples with the now available and earlier missing piece 24720 in this thread.
3x internet discoveries

(1) Embedded in a track plan:

https://files.homepagemo...5277/686e96b0/6b3bf4.png

(2) Frankenstein approach with a saw:

https://files.homepagemo...b40/686e97dc/a691ce.jpeg

https://files.homepagemo...ca8/686ea13c/dd4e85.jpeg

(3) Hosenträger requiring homemade straight 24176 segments (see my post #320 about 24176: https://www.marklin-user...d-innovations#post654885)

https://files.homepagemo...6eb/686f64f0/925605.jpeg

————
P.S., source: https://www.stummiforum....leis-Revolution-101.html

Edited by user 10 July 2025 11:27:26(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline hxmiesa  
#370 Posted : 09 July 2025 20:34:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: LeoArietis Go to Quoted Post
I miss examples with the now available and earlier missing piece 24720 in this thread.
3x internet discoveries

(1) Embedded in a track plan:

https://files.homepagemo...5277/686e96b0/6b3bf4.png

(2) Frankenstein approach with a saw:

https://files.homepagemo...b40/686e97dc/a691ce.jpeg

https://files.homepagemo...ca8/686ea13c/dd4e85.jpeg

(3) Hosenträger requiring homemade straight 24176 segments (see my post #320 about 24176: https://www.marklin-user...d-innovations#post654885)

https://files.homepagemo...bd8/686ea268/577152.jpeg


Click doesnt work on any of the links; "Link is only valid for a limited time", and all give a "502 Bad Gateway error".
Best regards
Henrik Hoexbroe ("The Dane In Spain")
http://hoexbroe.tripod.com
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#371 Posted : 09 July 2025 22:58:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hxmiesa Go to Quoted Post
Click doesnt work on any of the links; "Link is only valid for a limited time", and all give a "502 Bad Gateway error".

Works well on my PC using the Firefox web browser. Have you tried cutting and pasting the link into a new tab of your Internet browser?

P.S.: Anyway nothing dramatically new, because by analogy everything that has already been discussed about slim 2471x turnouts applies to the slim 24720 double crossover.

Edited by user 10 July 2025 09:20:03(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Offline Alsterstreek  
#372 Posted : 10 July 2025 09:09:47(UTC)
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By the way, Märklin has patent protection from the German Patent and Trade Mark Office for a flexible C track:

Patent no. DE102013100810B4 published in 2014 - see links below (German language).

https://patentimages.sto...8f4/DE102013100810B4.pdf

https://patents.google.c...tent/DE102013100810B4/de
Offline xxup  
#373 Posted : 10 July 2025 09:41:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hxmiesa Go to Quoted Post


Click doesnt work on any of the links; "Link is only valid for a limited time", and all give a "502 Bad Gateway error".


Same for me. I get the message, "Dieser Link war nur eine begrenzte Zeit gültig. Erneut laden"

Clicking on Erneut laden gives the bad gateway message.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#374 Posted : 10 July 2025 11:30:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: hxmiesa Go to Quoted Post


Click doesnt work on any of the links; "Link is only valid for a limited time", and all give a "502 Bad Gateway error".


Same for me. I get the message, "Dieser Link war nur eine begrenzte Zeit gültig. Erneut laden"

Clicking on Erneut laden gives the bad gateway message.
Then I fear you have to search through below extensive German forum thread (pages102 ff):
https://www.stummiforum....leis-Revolution-101.html
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Offline dave55uk  
#375 Posted : 10 July 2025 12:01:08(UTC)
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Works well on my PC using the Firefox web browser. Have you tried cutting and pasting the link into a new tab of your Internet browser?



I use Firefox on my PC and it doesn't work - same reason as previously stated.

Offline Alsterstreek  
#376 Posted : 10 July 2025 18:47:49(UTC)
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I tried to be helpful by researching to find an answer to Leo's query. Not that I expect gratitude, but I am frustrated by the “shooting the messenger (= yours truly)” match following my post #369. Until someone posts something substantive here, I won't be contributing anymore.
Offline dave55uk  
#377 Posted : 10 July 2025 18:54:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
I tried to be helpful by researching to find an answer to Leo's query. Not that I expect gratitude, but I am frustrated by the “shooting the messenger (= yours truly)” match following my post #369. Until someone posts something substantive here, I won't be contributing anymore.


Wasn't shooting you - merely saying the linls were not working - which could be for a variety of reasons.
Offline xxup  
#378 Posted : 10 July 2025 21:55:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
I tried to be helpful by researching to find an answer to Leo's query. Not that I expect gratitude, but I am frustrated by the “shooting the messenger (= yours truly)” match following my post #369. Until someone posts something substantive here, I won't be contributing anymore.


I don't see any shooting of the messenger, we are only trying to say that the links don't work for us. Maybe that site is restricted to viewers from Germany? We most definitely appreciate the time it took for you to find the information and post the links. As a new, but possibly temporary, C track user I am interested in this topic as it is full of excellent ideas mostly contributed by yourself.
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