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Offline morsing  
#1 Posted : 18 October 2018 21:44:59(UTC)
morsing

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So, having fitted current conducting couplers to some carriages, it appears to can't hook them up to normal couplers... Is that right? It certainly wouldn't hook onto the loco at all, with difficulty to another carriage.
It seem the protruding pin prevents this.

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Offline Drongo  
#2 Posted : 19 October 2018 00:42:03(UTC)
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IMHO The current conducting couplers are extremely difficult to use. I try to avoid them.
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Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 19 October 2018 08:43:01(UTC)
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Hi!
Originally Posted by: morsing Go to Quoted Post
Is that right?
Is that question about H0 gauge? Is that question about Märklin couplers?

There are many different couplers sold by Märklin and not all are fully compatible with all others. There are different versions of current-conducting couplers.

Märklin coach sets usually have normal close couplers at the outer ends to hook them up to locomotives, with current-conducting couplers between the coaches. This avoids mixing different types of couplers.
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Offline Minok  
#4 Posted : 19 October 2018 21:55:25(UTC)
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I'll echo H0's questions. If you are asking about H0 Märklin current conduction close couplers - the couple well with other conducting close couplers.

Close couplers (current conducting or not) can have issues coupling with non-close couples, such as the relex couplers. If you are trying to couple with non-Märklin couplers thats an additional level of difficulty. Generally couplers work well with others of the same make/type, and tricky if mixing/matching.

If you are trying (I'm taking a guess here) to couple Märklin conducting close couplers to a Märklin telex coupling (due to the reference of the "pin" and it being on a locomotive) - that is another issue. Not sure what is meant by "normal coupler".

So if you can provide some clarity as to which coupler is on the loco and which is on the car, and the scale (H0 vs others) that would help.
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Offline morsing  
#5 Posted : 19 October 2018 22:42:22(UTC)
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Hi,

The protruding copper pin at the front of the coupler in the picture below, prevents it getting close enough to a non-conducting coupler to lock in place.

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This isn't exactly made clear in the description of these. It just means you have to leave the consist with one non-conducting coupler (at either end).

The loco I tried this on (but can't see this being loco dependent) is a Marklin 39674.

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Offline madhu.gn.71  
#6 Posted : 21 November 2019 03:39:10(UTC)
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@morsing, that is true as per my experience. Last year I purchased 3 wagons from Rheingold set and I too had similar query as I was not able to couple these conducting couplers with regular coupler of my BR23. Later my friend suggested to replace the last wagon's conducting coupler with a regular one.


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Offline costing  
#7 Posted : 21 November 2019 19:11:37(UTC)
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I confirm that you should only use these couplers between themselves, the spring is too long and prevents coupling with a "regular" one. Fortunately the design is good and you can easily pull them out when you have to place / replace them.

Another type of couplers I've used is the ESU (http://www.esu.eu/en/products/accessories/kupplungen/current-carrying-coupler/). These are compatible with regular couplers, but the two springs are more fragile than Marklin's and easily bend and get out of reach of each other. And they are permanently connected to the wires. While it is cool to have a single wagon equipped with current pickups I find the Marklin ones more reliable overall.
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Offline dominator  
#8 Posted : 21 November 2019 22:00:38(UTC)
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If you coupled those couplers with non conducting ones, would that not cause a short. If that's the case, then they are designed to couple only with each other for safety reasons. Would you not think!!!!!!!!

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Offline costing  
#9 Posted : 21 November 2019 22:48:36(UTC)
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The non conducting ones are usually in plastic pockets or their body is made of plastic, apart from the hook. So there is nothing to connect you to the rails. At least in the models I have this is the case.
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Offline dominator  
#10 Posted : 21 November 2019 23:11:36(UTC)
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Ah, I had in mind the really old stuff. I forgot about the newer items.
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