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Offline geir  
#1 Posted : 28 September 2025 20:22:40(UTC)
geir

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I'm planing to make a shuttle train event,with 3 contacts.I want the train to stop on the midle contact,for 10 sec and then continue.Fore both ways.I know I can make it work with a contact track 24994 but is it possible to make it, with just a singel contact 24995 + logic from event tool?

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Online rhfil  
#2 Posted : 28 September 2025 21:54:34(UTC)
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Assuming you have a CS3 you can record an event or more easily create an event which should do as you describe though I am not certain exactly what the route is. Is it a circular route or linear? It would be necessary to have three S88 contacts for the best result though you could do it with just one in he middle and timing.
Offline geir  
#3 Posted : 28 September 2025 23:17:40(UTC)
geir

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Its a linear route and yes I have a CS3.My question is ,what funchion should I use (in event)on the midle contact on the return.The shuttle train starts in A,go to B ,wait 10 sec,than go to C.Wait 10 sec ,return to B wait 10 sec,go back to A......
Offline JohnjeanB  
#4 Posted : 28 September 2025 23:59:59(UTC)
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Hi Geir
Yes, you must use events to create
- a stop, wait, start after a while of a specific loco and call it EVENT 1
This EVENT 1 can be triggered by a toggle track (slider operated) at one extremity of the shuttle run
Another EVENT 2 includes a stop wait and direction change (in the OTHER direction - can't be the same event)
This EVENT 2 is also triggered by a toggle track at the other end of the shuttel

If you want a stop en route you must create:
- another event (EVENT 3), activated by a toggle track (one way or both ways) to stop the loco + wait a given time.
This EVENT 3 may be triggered by more than one track if multiple stops en route are needed. Just connect the toggle tracks in parallel to start EVENT 3

Here is a very interesting video - alas in German - but clear enough for a CS3 user to get the principles (and you have english subtitles)


Of course the drawback is that you must write an EVENT 1 to EVENT 3 for each loco you want to use (because the events control a GIVEN loco
Otherwise, you must use s/w like Rocrail Seems like an overkill but also an open door to very interesting operation
Cheers
Jean
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#5 Posted : 29 September 2025 00:55:24(UTC)
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I think we need to agree on a definition of the term "Event". It can be a series of functions or just one function. To me Marklin prefers to use the term to define a series of functions. Like a story. And Jean is correct, Marklin Events are mostly loco specific I have yet to figure out a way to get around that. It is possible to create stopping blocks using events that are not loco specific. We created an event that sends a panorama car out from a central station, climbs half way up a mountain, stops at a halfway house then continues up to stop near the top of the mountain. It then returns down to the starting station. We included announcements. door opening and closing, music, and conductor whistles and loco horns. All in one even and it repeats as long as you will allow it. Events is one of the major benefits Marklin provided us with the CS3 and it can be a never ending source 0f challenge for anyone who plays with it.
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Offline clapcott  
#6 Posted : 29 September 2025 10:01:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post
... Of course the drawback is that you must write an EVENT 1 to EVENT 3 for each loco you want to use (because the events control a GIVEN loco) ...


I do not believe that to be strictly correct.

There are a couple of ways to work with the CS3 capabilities so you do not have to duplicate the set of events for different loco's

These include , but are not limited to ...
- building the event set with an MU proxy loco as the target. And swapping locos in/out of the MU consist.
- leveraging the loco inheritance ability of the CS3 (and CS2) events, whereby the loco in a given event is overridden by that of the calling/parent event/function that triggers it.
Peter
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Online rhfil  
#7 Posted : 29 September 2025 14:44:54(UTC)
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Clapcott, any chance you could give us an example of the second scenario? And in the first could you, after swapping a loco in a MU consist delete the remaining original loco?
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Online rhfil  
#8 Posted : 30 September 2025 14:30:28(UTC)
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Played with the MU feature and it is interesting. Once you create an MU it is possible to create events with it and changing the locos in the MU does not effect the Event. Though you need to have two locos in the MU one need not be on the layout for the MU to operate. Now I need to determine which locos have the same functions in the same locations.
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Offline clapcott  
#9 Posted : 01 October 2025 09:44:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
.... an example of the second scenario? And in the first could you


Not exactly sure what you need, however the following shows a normal CS3 event macro "Shuttle 1" in this case designed with a Red Loco as a placeholder.

Below that is shown the Blue loco setup screen and the selection of an unused function button (F7) which is configured with "Shuttle 1" as its runtime option.

Thus , placing the blue train between the sensors and clicking F7 , will use the Shuttle1 Macro but with the Blue Loco as the inherited target

(Note: the signals and Loco labeling shown on the track board are extra to the actual shuttle macro, should you wish to get more into events and macros)

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Online rhfil  
#10 Posted : 01 October 2025 14:55:27(UTC)
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Thanks. I need to try that so I can understand it. By the way, when first playing with the "Shuttle Macro" I thought I could insert actions between the set boxes. I discovered that though I could not see the actions they were actually there. The actions were performed but it was irritating and confusing not seeing them.
Offline clapcott  
#11 Posted : 05 October 2025 02:40:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
... when first playing with the "Shuttle Macro" I thought I could insert actions between the set boxes. ...

Please elaborate, " ... between the set boxes ..."

Quote:
... I discovered that though I could not see the actions they were actually there....

- which actions?
- is this perhaps referring to the (buggy) Web interface, where black boxes appear if you review the events from the main screen (as apposed to the specific event endpoint/view)?
Peter
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#12 Posted : 05 October 2025 11:01:07(UTC)
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Any event you would normally want for a locomotive such as speed changes, horns, whistles, announcements, etc. Also, I recently discovered by accident that holding down on the event edit tab produces a written log of the event that is running or ran. Have not tried that feature with hidden functions in the Shuttle Event. And finally, I thought the problem of not seeing the hidden events could be eliminated by creating an "Event" of a series of events and inserting the created "Event" into the "Shuttle Event". Again, have not tried that.
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Offline marklinist5999  
#13 Posted : 07 October 2025 17:28:49(UTC)
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Tomorrow, Oct. 8, there is a Marklin USA digital webinar on Youtube via Zoom live on a two train single line shuttle event rework. You can watch live and join or afterward later on.
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Offline Surge  
#14 Posted : 05 February 2026 20:20:11(UTC)
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Can someone please help with a basic question: I have created a shuttle event using the Shuttle Macro on the CS3. How do you terminate it?! Such a basic task and I cannot figure it out.
Gauge 1 locomotive collector
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Offline marklinist5999  
#15 Posted : 05 February 2026 21:20:20(UTC)
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I have the same problem. I block events a lot. I have reviewed every digital webinar on this, and still am stumped. I think Curtis and Rick said it is problematic for them too.
Offline JohnjeanB  
#16 Posted : 05 February 2026 21:22:32(UTC)
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Hi Surge
I believe you must create 2 events or more:
- one (Event1) to stop the loco L1 and then send it towards B
- a second (Event2) to stop the loco L1 and then send it towards A

Of course Event1 is triggered by a contact track (or occupation detection) on the A station
and Event2 is trigered by a contact track (or occupation detection) on the B station

It can be more complex to include a timer before the loco starts
It can also activate turnouts, signals, loco fonctions as per your fantasy
Multiple events may be added to create a more complex automatism

As you know it is more complicated than the way it was with a CS2 (specific screen with 3 possible sensors for both ends and , possibly, a stop en-route

Finally there is a trick to change the loco without rewriting all the events: create a mutiple traction (MT1) and have all events refer to it instead of a specific loco
Then all you need to include ANY loco into this MT1 traction before starting the automation.

Sorry I have been long the reason being that I like automation and now, instead of using a CS3 events, I use Rocrail
Here is my layout here in 100% automatic operation using Rocrail (only my general purpose laptop and a CAT5 cable


Cheers
Jean
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Online rhfil  
#17 Posted : 05 February 2026 22:30:10(UTC)
rhfil

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There are a number of ways to stop or terminate an event. By the way, I think the shuttle macro is terrible and making one from scratch provides a much better event. But first the easiest way to terminate an event is by clicking on the tab which has an icon of a loco on it inside the Event edit tab. That brings up other tabs such as Event Stop and Event Start(I don't remember exactly which right now) and experimenting around will usually terminate the event. Curtis in one webinar introduced a neat idea. He added an item to the layout screen which was not part of the layout but was switchable such as a light, signal, or even a turnout. He then included into the shuttle even an if then option so if the light or whatever was on then the event stopped. Interestingly, when I first discovered the shuttle macro I tried to add intermediate steps between the set boxes and thought, since I could not see them, that the Event had rejected them but though not visible they were actually in the Event.
I got off my butt and turned on my CS3 and the options are "Block events", "Terminate events" and "Stop events". There is actually another way to do it after a specific amount of time but it is so weird I don't really know how it works. If you want to experiment, click on "Edit" in the Event tab then on "add" and play around with the "Control" and "Modeltime" tabs.
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