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Offline charles Sharpe  
#1 Posted : 17 October 2010 00:09:09(UTC)
charles Sharpe


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Hello.

Sorry it has been some time since I was last on the form. I have been in and out of hospital.

I have tried this on this forum before I lost the plot.

I have two platforms at one end of my layout which go into a single track. The single track works it's way to the other side of my layout and the goes into two tracks agin. Know what I want to do is this, set one lok on it's way and when it gets to the other end is for the turn out to switch over auto so that the second lok that was sent on it's way a few seconds later than the first one will go into the other the other siding/platform. The loks will wait for the set time I have put in the CS2 and the they will each work there way back and the same will happen again. I do have 4 pieces of contact track in stock and I also have 2 S88 working on the lay out already.Please can you help me. If you can please can you tell me in very simple terms as this sort of thing I am not good at.

Charles.
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Offline David Dewar  
#2 Posted : 17 October 2010 01:00:35(UTC)
David Dewar

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Hi Charles good to hear from you again and hope you are feeling better. The above can be done but I will leave it to somebody who will explain better than me and possibly give a diagram.

dave
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Offline charles Sharpe  
#3 Posted : 18 October 2010 17:31:07(UTC)
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Hello David.

It's nice to hear from you. I hope you and your family are all well. Lets hope someone who will do a a diagram and I can have a go at the weekend.

Charles.
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Offline Webmaster  
#4 Posted : 18 October 2010 21:45:30(UTC)
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Great to see you back, Charles! Hope you are fine.

The technicalities I leave to those better suited to deal with them...
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Offline David Dewar  
#5 Posted : 20 October 2010 18:07:42(UTC)
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Charles. Looks like nobody is riding to your rescue at the moment. You could try posting in the Cave and see if you can get a reply.

dave
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Offline nevw  
#6 Posted : 21 October 2010 02:18:15(UTC)
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Charles,
Most of the answer is in the topic Shuttle routes on CS2, Just 2 posts above this .
You will need a S88 , and some contact track to operate the points as well.

https://www.marklin-user...&m=256950#post256950

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Offline charles Sharpe  
#7 Posted : 21 October 2010 12:21:59(UTC)
charles Sharpe


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Hello Nevw.

I am a bit confused as the guy is asking the same sort of questions and is talking about cutting the power which I do not under stand and he says about using a computer to do the job. I have contact tracks in place on each track both ends and all wires back to the S88 but it will only work some of the time.What happens is it will run fine for a couple of times then one of the contact tracks stops working. ie will not switch the turnout if you flick the little pins on the contact track it will not work. I have checked all the wiring to see if I have a loose wire or dry joint but that seams ok. If you take the faulty contact track out and move it to one of the other places it will work fine.
Then you can run the two shuttles for a couple of times then the problem starts all over again.

Charles.
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Offline clapcott  
#8 Posted : 23 October 2010 01:44:44(UTC)
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Hello Charles,

Just to check, does either of these three animations capture what you envision

UserPostedImage

UserPostedImage

UserPostedImage

Either of these can be achieved with just the CS2. If you want a bit more versatility and/or including randomness then the power of PC sequencing can be brought to bare.

If the "CS2 only" option is selected then "dead sections" will need to be added to prevent both trains heading out at the same time. The Top animation would need four - one at each siding, the middle and bottom animations would only need 2.
Peter
Offline river6109  
#9 Posted : 23 October 2010 07:12:22(UTC)
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Charles,
What can happen, your contact track is opening or shutting a sequence.
If it fails to go back to its neutral position, the command is still open and it will not allow any other contact track to follow on the next command.
It all depends on your command wiring, it may happen as you said for a couple of times and than it stops.
Make sure your contact track (few people had problems with), before any train operation occurs, does go back to its neutral position. You may have to add a very tiny tiny drop of superglue (place onto a toothpick) to secure the 2 plastic rods with the contact plate but insuring under no circumstances any glue does flow over to the mechanism.
To operate these wipers by hand is not a very good idea but in most cases can't be avoided, thus loosening the small plate.

A second problem occurs when the micro switch spring activated lever within the contact track is too week to send the wiper back to its neutral position.
Someone has corrected it by unsoldering the switch, taken the switch apart and corrected the spring problem.
This of course takes some precise handyman workmanship and is not recommended for someone who has'nt got this ability.

If you are using S88's you may be better off by detecting the wheels (AC) of a train (easy to setup with k-tracks), either as a whole section (no other train will enter this section while it is occupied until it is free of any wheel contact) or a small cut in the track to activate your command, instead of a wiper from an unreliable contact track.

If your train travels forward and backwards on the same track, my method may not be suitable (small cut in track) because your contact track's wiper can switch 2 commanda independently from each other, either direction.


John

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Offline charles Sharpe  
#10 Posted : 23 October 2010 12:07:28(UTC)
charles Sharpe


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clapcott wrote:
Hello Charles,

Just to check, does either of these three animations capture what you envision

UserPostedImage

UserPostedImage

UserPostedImage

Either of these can be achieved with just the CS2. If you want a bit more versatility and/or including randomness then the power of PC sequencing can be brought to bare.

If the "CS2 only" option is selected then "dead sections" will need to be added to prevent both trains heading out at the same time. The Top animation would need four - one at each siding, the middle and bottom animations would only need 2.



Hello Clapcott.

If my trains ran like that I would be well pleased. The top image is like mine but I have each train goes into the same siding ie top left branch on your image would go to the top right branch. The reason I do this because two of the sidings are a bit on the short side and has I run two different lengths of trains and as shuttles wiper touches the contact track the trains stop about 50mm from the buffers and are also out of sight. I hope this makes sence.

Charles.
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