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Offline Rwill  
#1 Posted : 09 May 2019 11:30:29(UTC)
Rwill

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Yesterday my wife daughter and I had a light-hearted discussion on what would happen if one of us went under a bus! We covered some serious issues and I believe wife and daughter discovered some things they did not know. Towards the end of the discussion which was being held in the computer/railway room the topic came up from daughter about “the Marklin stuff”. Daughter is an avid Ebayer albeit mainly in ladies’ posh frocks and wheels and deals fluently and successfully. She reckons she could research Marklin and achieve the same results. I am not so sure. My collection is up to thirty years old has no particular themes and is in various conditions and is not properly documented. There is no one in my circle of friends who has any knowledge or interest of M matters. So what thoughts and actions have others on this matter?
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#2 Posted : 09 May 2019 11:45:35(UTC)
kimballthurlow

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Hi Rwill,

I believe your daughter is very probably correct.
Buying and selling "stuff" has never been easier for those who know nothing about the items they sell.
That is because it is so easy to obtain and compare information.

Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail (USA and Australia) - 3 rail (English Hornby Dublo) - a few old O gauge.
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Offline Gregor  
#3 Posted : 09 May 2019 13:00:23(UTC)
Gregor

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For mint/unmodified items it will be relatively easy to determine value by comparing, as Kimball states.
I just wonder how well items can be sold which were modified by the previous owner (decoder installation, added interior lighting, improved power pick-up etc.) if the seller does not know about these mods.

Anyway I think in a decade or so, ebay will be swamped with items from collectors who are now in their 60-70's and prices will probably go down accordingly.
I never believed in buying Märklin as an investment.

Gregor
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Offline Michael4  
#4 Posted : 09 May 2019 14:29:12(UTC)
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Being a little older every day I have started selling off things (both cameras and Marklin) that are difficult to identify or describe and that I no longer need or use.

In effect this means that the specialist bits and pieces are going to people who know what they are and are prepared to pay for them.

On the Marklin side this will leave unmodified analogue items that have a theoretical known value.

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Offline MaerklinLife  
#5 Posted : 09 May 2019 15:37:33(UTC)
MaerklinLife


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I am also selling things off that I don't need. For me it is not about having a big collection, but having a collection of items that I currently find interesting. My interest change over time, so I sell stuff to get new stuff or to trim the collection.
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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#6 Posted : 09 May 2019 15:54:26(UTC)
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This is very truly a discussion for the family.

I have 4 adult children who have their own lives and I do not know if they do much with ebay. They probably have the technical expertise that Rwill mentioned. They are not that interested in MR (Sorry! I tried, really I did! Blushing ), nor do they have the room at this time for display/storage (do any of us have enough?). The middler twins are each working on PhDs, the eldest is making a big move Savannah to Cleveland (with all of his family's paraphenalia), the youngest is very much a gamer.

What are your opinions, however, of my current thought, if/when I 'pop my clogs' and 'shuffle off this mortal coil':

"Donation to the Local MRR Club of all items"??

Unsure

Jimmy
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Offline David Dewar  
#7 Posted : 09 May 2019 16:13:27(UTC)
David Dewar

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I was quite happy today until I read this thread. Us Marklin folk live forever !!!

Order another loco and get on with enjoying life.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline RayF  
#8 Posted : 09 May 2019 16:53:41(UTC)
RayF

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I have alluded to these concerns in previous posts. With an ever growing collection and only a finite life span, the problem will become some-one else's in a few short years!

I am keeping a spreadsheet with basic information on each of my items of rolling stock, including a nominal value for each locomotive. I try to keep this up to date, bearing in mind deprecation and balanced by gain in value due to digital upgrade. I don't consider that "clever" improvements such as extra lighting, telex couplers, smoke units and such will add much, if any value to a future buyer, so I don't take these things into account.

My son has an interest in model railways and he has told me that he will keep some of my Marklin trains but not the whole collection, so by keeping this spreadsheet up to date I hope it will make it easier for him to dispose of the unwanted stuff when I "move on". Whatever money he makes from such sales I have asked him to share with his sister in the interests of fairness.

OK, so this is pretty morbid, but I think I'm being realistic and forward thinking!
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
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Offline franciscohg  
#9 Posted : 09 May 2019 20:55:40(UTC)
franciscohg

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I had the same discussion with my kids, they show no major interest in MRR so far, but instructions are clear, if when the moment arrive they still have no interest, just give the whole thing to someone/s who will love them. If they even sold the more little piece of track I will go back to uncover they feet at night.😅
Regards
UserPostedImage German trains era I-II and selected III, era depends on the mood, mostly Maerklin but i can be heretic if needed XD, heresy is no longer an issue.. LOL
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#10 Posted : 09 May 2019 21:36:48(UTC)
DaleSchultz


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This is an important topic indeed.

When a friend in our local group passed away, the rest of us went and dismantled his layout over a weekend.
We boxed everything up (he had kept all the boxes) and took up all his C-track and bundled them all up.

Some trains were picked out for his small grandson and his widow let us each select some trains to us to have. They provide great memories of him and I think of him whenever I run his loco.

I also names a village on my layout after him.

One of the chaps undertook to sell everything else on eBay for the widow, it was a mammoth task.

Since then the topic has come up a few times, but I think that what we all did was good for his family and the rest of us too.

So keep the boxes where they can be found.
If you think some items should go to specific people, leave a note about that.


Dale
Intellibox + own software, K-Track
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Offline HO Collector  
#11 Posted : 09 May 2019 21:56:45(UTC)
HO Collector

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Originally Posted by: Rwill Go to Quoted Post
Yesterday my wife daughter and I had a light-hearted discussion on what would happen if one of us went under a bus! We covered some serious issues and I believe wife and daughter discovered some things they did not know. Towards the end of the discussion which was being held in the computer/railway room the topic came up from daughter about “the Marklin stuff”. Daughter is an avid Ebayer albeit mainly in ladies’ posh frocks and wheels and deals fluently and successfully. She reckons she could research Marklin and achieve the same results. I am not so sure. My collection is up to thirty years old has no particular themes and is in various conditions and is not properly documented. There is no one in my circle of friends who has any knowledge or interest of M matters. So what thoughts and actions have others on this matter?


1. Don't jump under a bus.
2. Prepare a list of everything.
3. Tell them that they will never get what you have paid (my wife knows it Angry )
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Offline Jabez  
#12 Posted : 09 May 2019 22:56:59(UTC)
Jabez

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When I saw the title of this thread 'The Future' I thought on Philip Larkin's gloomy observation 'Most things may never happen: this one will' Sad
Jabez
I heard that lonesome whistle blow. Hank Williams
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Online jcrtrains  
#13 Posted : 10 May 2019 02:27:58(UTC)
jcrtrains

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It is a good topic to think about.

I have a list by year with value paid. My wife says the challenge will be matching trains and boxes. In my case I have a lot of Hag. Ae 6/6 and Re 6/6 are easy to match coat of arms and boxes. The rest are difficult and my wife wants me to print a picture of each and put it in its box. It’s a good idea.

The other part that has been discussed is the state of the market. It is a buyers market and will become more one sided to the buyers in the future. Prices are grinding down on most items and will continue. Selling it will become tougher.
Offline Michael4  
#14 Posted : 10 May 2019 09:23:38(UTC)
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I suspect that the 'younger generation' have little interest in collecting physical things. They seem more interested in collecting the experiences of all sorts that can be found in the 'virtual' environment. They may appreciate stuff like Marklin but don't see the need to own it.

Oh, yes...and the 'younger generation' isn't so young anymore!
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Offline RayF  
#15 Posted : 10 May 2019 10:09:54(UTC)
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Fads come and go. Twenty years ago you would not have seen an adult trundling around on a scooter in public. Today everyone seems to have one to get to and from work!

Trains were toys until the mid twentieth century, when suddenly "Railway Modelling" became a hobby. Toy trains continued to exist alongside model trains and they still do, but the pendulum is swinging back to them being toys once again except for a reducing number of modelling enthusiasts.

I don't think the "hayday" of model trains will return, but there will continue to be a small market for collectors and modellers in the future. Perhaps when spare parts for our older trains start becoming more difficult to find we will dispose of some items, making them more rare and desireable once again?

There will be a glut on the market when our generation dies out, but whoever hangs on to their trains for another 30 or 40 years will see them rise in value again.
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline Joe Meiring  
#16 Posted : 10 May 2019 15:26:59(UTC)
Joe Meiring

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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Fads come and go. Twenty years ago you would not have seen an adult trundling around on a scooter in public. Today everyone seems to have one to get to and from work!

Trains were toys until the mid twentieth century, when suddenly "Railway Modelling" became a hobby. Toy trains continued to exist alongside model trains and they still do, but the pendulum is swinging back to them being toys once again except for a reducing number of modelling enthusiasts.

I don't think the "hayday" of model trains will return, but there will continue to be a small market for collectors and modellers in the future. Perhaps when spare parts for our older trains start becoming more difficult to find we will dispose of some items, making them more rare and desireable once again?

There will be a glut on the market when our generation dies out, but whoever hangs on to their trains for another 30 or 40 years will see them rise in value again.

....another 30 to 40 years... I'll be around 112 years oldLOL
Old JoeBigGrin
Medium digital C track layout with MS2: When I grow up I want to be a steam engine driver....
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Offline dickinsonj  
#17 Posted : 11 May 2019 17:14:43(UTC)
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An interesting if a bit depressing thread.

My plan is simple. I keep good records of what I have for the most part although I need to get a better handle on track/turnouts.etc. My wife has a copy of that spreadsheet and she can do what she wants when I leave my trains behind, but I never intend to sell them myself. I buy what I want and can afford and what they may bring some day is not really my concern. They were certainly not bought as an investment, at least not in a monetary sense. That approach lets me just enjoy my trains and whoever sells them will get the money as their payment, no matter what the final dollar amount may be. Cool
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline David Dewar  
#18 Posted : 11 May 2019 21:52:10(UTC)
David Dewar

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When I pop off I can just see my wife rushing off to sell my model railway. If she has any sense she will get in touch with a railway club and ask them to take it away and if they want they can give her something for it. She will be far too busy looking for another man who has absolutely no interest in model trains. LOL
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline 1borna  
#19 Posted : 17 May 2019 21:42:37(UTC)
1borna

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All of us when we come to serious years begin to think what will happen when we get to our last station?
I have a lot of younger friends who I know I'll have some of them in my collection, I'll leave something to my kids and grandchildren
I will give something to our club, which is celebrating its 50th anniversary - https://www.kzmz.hr/
I will also give some models to the Croatian Railway Museum. http://muzej.hzinfra.hr/
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Offline river6109  
#20 Posted : 18 May 2019 05:41:05(UTC)
river6109

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Well, I don't really care, my son will inherit my collection, the layout is worth about A$ 250.000 (an estimate) and unless it is displayed somewhere it most probably gets dismantled and may fetch "0" dollars. when you're young (and I'm reasonable young at 75) one gets all these brilliant ideas and it has had me occupied over the retiring years (don't know what that means).
selling stuff these days, its not the same as it used to be, I've got a 400lt bratpan which I've put into an auction 10 years ago and wanted A$ 35.000 and was offered A$ 20.000 which I've turned down, I may get 5000.00 for it now if I'm lucky,. general Märklin stuff will or already has lost its value and the same there what I've sold 10-15 years ago I may get half for it and who knows with all the extra gadgets I've added in years to come it may be so outdated., it wouldn't be worth the money that I've put into.
these days it still keeps me occupied and I still have interest in the hobby but I don't have much hope about the value or any value and I've never bought it as an investment., it is foolish enough to buy expensive locos these days and hoping they will bring you retiring nest egg., more likely you can afford to buy smoked salmon each week.

John
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Offline cookee_nz  
#21 Posted : 18 May 2019 08:23:11(UTC)
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** Reposted - deleted in error while trying to sort out duplicated posting - this is not my post, it was from John :-) **

Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
When I pop off I can just see my wife rushing off to sell my model railway. If she has any sense she will get in touch with a railway club and ask them to take it away and if they want they can give her something for it. She will be far too busy looking for another man who has absolutely no interest in model trains. LOL


my sentiments, if she is smart she will try to get the maximum for it so she can buy all these clothes and shoes and handbags she always wanted to store into her wardrobe and than throws them away in 12 month time because they don't fit anymore and going out to places is no longer on the agenda (handbags) and shoes they fitted alright the first day but are hurting now so they just become dust collectors but make up will be popular as ever as more wrinkles appear and the chance of becoming a Hollywood star is still in the pipeline., no money will be spend on a boob job it has gone south for a relocation.
Its the best hobby married couples can have the only problem is there is usually only 1 interested in but what would the hobby be with out the cup of tea, lunch served and the scream at night I can hear from the train room: dinner is ready and many hours later: are you coming to bed ? and the constant remarks: what a waste of money and I would say she is right as they always are., we may get the message 10 years later if we would have listen to them., as they always say: you don't listen, which, by the way is an international women's phrase

John
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Offline PJMärklin  
#22 Posted : 18 May 2019 08:31:47(UTC)
PJMärklin

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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
more likely you can afford to buy smoked salmon each week.
John


Hello John,

Fortunate for you that you live in "The Lucky Country" and can afford quality Tasmanian smoked salmon every weekendBigGrin !!

https://shop.huonaqua.co...emium-cold-smoked-salmon

https://shop.huonaqua.com.au/collections/reserve

Enjoy !!Laugh

Regards,

Philip

Disclaimer : I have no vested interest in this product or company, other than being a patriotic Tasmanian and enjoying smoked salmon for lunch on Saturday together with a Tasmanian East Coast Pinot Gris.ThumpUp
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Offline Legless  
#23 Posted : 18 May 2019 10:30:50(UTC)
Legless

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To me, this answer is simple.
When I go, if a family member doesn’t want my train layout. It will be sold either separately or in one piece.
The end results is a family member or another Märklin lover will get it. So someone will be happy just like me.
Legless
Era's 1 to 111,C track,k track
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Offline PhillipL  
#24 Posted : 07 June 2019 00:09:11(UTC)
PhillipL

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I have been a dc modeler for many years. I started with a small collection of Marklin about two to three years ago. As I am getting closer to retirement age (I plan to keep working for another nine years). I plan to sell/donate my dc trains prior to retirement. My Marklin trains are all Startup models and I am purchasing smaller simpler locomotives such as the BR 89 (30000) (reasonable costs especially when retired). I plan to have a small Marklin layout upon retirement that will be orientated more around fun than prototypical. My grand-kids are all video and computer fans and have shown no real interest in model trains. Hopefully that will change in the next few years as I would love to give them my dc collection.
Offline river6109  
#25 Posted : 07 June 2019 05:38:39(UTC)
river6109

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Originally Posted by: PJMärklin Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
more likely you can afford to buy smoked salmon each week.
John


Hello John,

Fortunate for you that you live in "The Lucky Country" and can afford quality Tasmanian smoked salmon every weekendBigGrin !!

https://shop.huonaqua.co...emium-cold-smoked-salmon

https://shop.huonaqua.com.au/collections/reserve

Enjoy !!Laugh

Regards,

Philip

Disclaimer : I have no vested interest in this product or company, other than being a patriotic Tasmanian and enjoying smoked salmon for lunch on Saturday together with a Tasmanian East Coast Pinot Gris.ThumpUp


Philip, you must have a personal inside into our eating habits, although we don't eat Huon smoked salmon, we regularly eat either fresh salmon cutlets or imported smoked salmon, fresh salmon (whole) from Tasmania (Tassel) and I cut them into cutlets and the end pieces into pieces, smoked salmon usually from Denmark or Norway as we can get them cheaper.

John

https://www.youtube.com/river6109
https://www.youtube.com/6109river
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50 years in Repairing mode
Offline dominator  
#26 Posted : 07 June 2019 06:13:03(UTC)
dominator

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My Daughter [ accountant ] and my wife [ accounts supervisor {mine}] both asked me to clean out my "shit" some time ago. I told my daughter that cleaning out that "shit" is part of her and the boys inheritance. Pardon the expression but a spade is a spade.
I wanted to retire from the Pipe Band this year but they dont want me to. [ I've apparently got good fingers ]. Mind you, its good for the lungs so here goes another year, but its fun [ and hard work ]. Both my Nortons have been kept in top order,. I still sail once a fortnight, run with the Hash House Harriers every week, and and still work in my shop 5 1/2 days per week. I do enjoy life 99% of the Time . I get a lot of satisfaction when my granddaughters [ 2 1/2 and 5 ] ask to come and play trains. I usually fiddle around with them every night that I can. I'm still married to that gorgeous chick I met in 1978. What more could anyone want.
I set up an exell spreadsheet some years ago which lists all I have, including how my I paid for each bit and I monitor the local "Trade me" to check values of items that come up and record that as well. Some my new stuff is only 1/3 its original value from 20 years ago.

BTW the set up that John [ river6109 ] has is just amazing. If you are in Perth, get in touch with him. I'm sure he would be please to show you around.

Lasse's set up in Kerikeri is truly amazing as well.

The above two setups I have had the pleasure of seeing. There are a lot more around the world as we can see from looking on this forum.

Lang may our lum's reek.BigGrin

Dereck
Northland. NZ REMEMBER 0228 for ä
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Offline sjbartels  
#27 Posted : 07 June 2019 07:34:00(UTC)
sjbartels

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My wife knows of my collection and some of the finer pieces, I've long accepted she will live longer than me. That being said, as well as pointing out some of the finer things, showing her the Kolls catalogue (which I maintain is not as useful in the US as it might be in Europe), I've made a point of introducing her to friends in the Marklin world, people I trust, whom she can reach out to when it comes to eBay and listing things. Just another avenue you could explore. True friends and enthusiasts I still like to think wont steer someone wrong
American by Geography, Australian by Birth. I am an original Ameristraylian
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