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Offline TEEWolf  
#1 Posted : 21 August 2017 23:36:51(UTC)
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Open this thread with the request and hope to everybody here.

He/she/it will help the MUN community gathering and defining the worldwide primary (best and first-class) locomotives, indifferently of their engine.

After gathering a list of models it should be presented to Mr. Sieber jr., Maerklin's geschäftsführender Gesellschafter (acting manager and owner) as proposals and wishes from in Maerklin interested customers in general and Insider Club Members of peculiar interest.


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#2 Posted : 21 August 2017 23:38:36(UTC)
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I start this list with my first proposal for the

“SNCF 241 P 17”

and refer to my post #246 in the thread “Maerklin new items 2017. See here please:

https://www.marklin-user...017-New-Items#post551334
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Offline Jabez  
#3 Posted : 22 August 2017 00:03:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
the worldwide primary (best and first-class) locomotives, indifferently of their engine.

The LNER Gresley Pacific A4 class are/were at the pinnacle of steam worldwide, but Maerklin doesn't do British locos so my suggestion is purely for the record.
Jabez

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Offline RayF  
#4 Posted : 22 August 2017 00:06:25(UTC)
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Beyer Garrett locomotives were used around the world on different gauges. I would love to see Marklin make a standard gauge version of one of these impressive locos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garratt
Ray
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Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline GlennM  
#5 Posted : 22 August 2017 00:41:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Beyer Garrett locomotives were used around the world on different gauges. I would love to see Marklin make a standard gauge version of one of these impressive locos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garratt


Oh yes please
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#6 Posted : 22 August 2017 00:50:51(UTC)
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There are more millionaires (with children) living in India than any other country.

If I was in the marketing department at Marklin, I would be pursuing this market with everything.
Now the Indians for a long time used British built steamers, but lately have taken on German built trains and technology.

And just to add fuel to this fire, what about China?
Apperently they have gone mad over the German Storck made Knopper wafer chocolates.
Which also happen to be a favourtie of mine.
There are probably a few millionaires live there too now.

Kimball
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Offline TEEWolf  
#7 Posted : 22 August 2017 01:01:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jabez Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
the worldwide primary (best and first-class) locomotives, indifferently of their engine.

The LNER Gresley Pacific A4 class are/were at the pinnacle of steam worldwide, but Maerklin doesn't do British locos so my suggestion is purely for the record.
Jabez



Does not matter, if you think it is for the record or not - list it. After a certain assembly of locos, we start a poll. These polling generates us a list, we hand out to the Mr. Maerklins. I do not hesitate to make a personal appointment with the Maerklin owners. And we ask them: why not English locos for Maerklin? Where are the differences e.g. to a Big Boy from the US?
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#8 Posted : 22 August 2017 01:09:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
There are more millionaires (with children) living in India than any other country.

If I was in the marketing department at Marklin, I would be pursuing this market with everything.
Now the Indians for a long time used British built steamers, but lately have taken on German built trains and technology.

And just to add fuel to this fire, what about China?
Apperently they have gone mad over the German Storck made Knopper wafer chocolates.
Which also happen to be a favourtie of mine.
There are probably a few millionaires live there too now.

Kimball


Please list all the names from these locos here.

What do you think about Australian locos?

I have to add another one: the LENR Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman

https://en.wikipedia.org..._A3_4472_Flying_Scotsman
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Offline hvc  
#9 Posted : 22 August 2017 02:02:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Beyer Garrett locomotives were used around the world on different gauges. I would love to see Marklin make a standard gauge version of one of these impressive locos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garratt


Absolutely. Probably too much to hope for, but I would definitely pay for a Märklin AD60, even though it would have to cost as much as a Big Boy (of which I have two) :

https://en.wikipedia.org...es_AD60_class_locomotive

which is a 4-8-4+4-8-4 loco Love and is popular enough for there to be a restoration project:

https://www.engineersaus...-steam-locomotive-6029-0

there were similar locs around the world, but a Trix version of this one would sell in (two-rail dominated) Australia


- Herman
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Offline GlennM  
#10 Posted : 22 August 2017 02:46:04(UTC)
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I am sure there was a similar thread to this a couple of years ago with some wonderful suggestions. As well as the Beyer Garrett I would like to see;


Anything from Trix Fine Art range in a more affordable model especially KPEV class EG507 and T18 steam loco and BR T16, and DRG H45 Turbine Steam Locomotive, and E Lok ES 6 Halle der K.P.E.V.

A proper version of the ICE 2 with up to date electronics and sound

Diesel version of ICE

Retooling and update of Berlin S-Bahn (the tin plate version was for me nasty)

Re-issue of the TEE Ram with full sound, lights and world of operation decoder

Diesel railcar VT 137 "Stettin"

Diesel Railcar BR 650

Any big steam loco modified for WWII (I know this is against M policy but we can dream)

East Germany's Open Cast Mine Crocodiles (not sure of model number)

BR103 in Touristik livery and/or Rail Adventure livery

BR103 in Rhiengold livery like the one in Nuremberg DB Museum

E95

Class 33 electric

BR 181.2

Voith Gravita 15 (Class 265?)

Voith Maxima

V320

Class 66 Diesel

Class 77 Diesel

VT11 in blue and ivory inter city livery

V200 in green Reuschling der Brohltalbahn livery

V270 in construction yellow as part of a railway construction/maintenance set

BR711 Overhead maintenance unit

New tooling S3/6 - BR 18.4

BR98 tank loco

Streamlined BR06

BR 02 steam loco

P4 of the K.P.E.V era

Steam loco BR FC 719

Steam loco S6

Henschel-Zoelly turbine tender T38-3255

Henschel-Schmidt H17-206

Schwarzkopff H02-1001

BR16 steam loco

OBB BR 19.1 steam loco

ÖBB 5145 - Blauer Blitz railcar

OBB Rh 2045 Diesel

OBB Rh 1044 or 1042 or 1142

NS Electrical railcar "Plan V"

NS Bison Railcar

NS Koplopper in KLM livery

First Generation TGV in orange livery

Ae 6/8 BLS

Ae 4/4 BLS

Ae 8/8 BLS

SBB De 4/4

SBB Be 4/6

SBB BDe 4/4

SBB Ae 4/7

SBB GTW 2/6 or GTW 2/8 Thurbo VI

SBB Domino railcar

OBB Railjet set (I know Roco have cornered the market on this livery, but I think M could do a better version ???)

For USA I am sure some modern diesel units would be popular


Would also be great if M made a rack and pinion / cog loco like Fleischmann did in 70's & 80's for steep gradients

and like to see the SEH 800 reissued maybe as a Blue Box 'special' item

Not a loco but would love to see them make TWINDEXX Vario Double Deck coaches as well issued as a set with interior lights conductor couplings etc

If you looking at British locos then it would have to be an all metal body version of the Deltic Diesel



Oh wow I need to go and lie down now

Edited by user 22 August 2017 12:36:46(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline NS1200  
#11 Posted : 22 August 2017 06:05:39(UTC)
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The Hornby A4s are not bad for the money,i had two of them,one Dublo 3 rail DC and one anniversary with goldplated driverods,and sold them because they were DC and 00 scale.
Would love to see a Marklin version,unlikely with Hornby still so dominant around:

Edited by user 26 August 2017 05:36:27(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline NS1200  
#12 Posted : 22 August 2017 06:16:20(UTC)
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NS series 2200 and 2400,once the backbone of all freighttraffic in The Netherlands.
Marklin to make them full metal with metal handrails along the enginehood.

http://www.phildie.nl/Ph...007%20Marc%20Reerink.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com...CF1gY/s1600/IMG_6419.JPG

Series 2200: 150 locomotives built for NS.
Series 2400: 130 locomotives built for NS.
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Offline vilithejou  
#13 Posted : 22 August 2017 07:47:43(UTC)
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In May 2010 Marklin do a Poll online to Insider members. These are the options:(you can choose 3 options)

1.- BR 58 - Do it
2.- S 3/6 (BR18.4) - Not yet (a new tooling)
3.- BR 06 - Not yet
4.-BR 05 Cab forward - Do it
5.- T18 Turbine - Not yet
6.- S2/6 - Do it
7.- Serie 241 A 65 - Not yet
8.- C 5/6 Elefant - Do it
9.- Comodore Vanderbilt USA - Not yet
10.- E95 - Not yet
11.- E10 first serie - Not yet
12.- V320 - Not yet
13.- Voith Maxima - Not yet
14.- ET 403 Donald Duck - Do it
15.- ET 30 - Not yet
16.- VT92 - Not yet

I have in pdf that is a print of webpage of the poll... if somebody want I can send
I choose BR58, T18 and C 5/6 Elefant... i've got lucky two of them are made
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#14 Posted : 22 August 2017 08:18:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jabez Go to Quoted Post
.....
The LNER Gresley Pacific A4 class are/were at the pinnacle of steam worldwide, but Maerklin doesn't do British locos so my suggestion is purely for the record.
Jabez



Hi Jabez,
Interestingly, the A4 has a German connection.
Nigel Gresley (SNG) who was Chief Mechanical Engineer for the LNER at the time, was well acquanted (maybe even friends) with Richard Wagner, Chief of Design within the Deutsche Reichsbahn in Germany from its inception in 1922 to 1942.
SNG personally travelled to Germany in 1933/34 to inspect developments on the diesel powered fast trains then being built.
As a result he developed the high-speed trains on the LNER in the years 1935-38, such as the Silver Jubilee and the Coronation.

He stayed with steam power using lightweight construction of the trains (like Wagner).
After trials with earlier models of steam (A1, A3) he built the first of the streamlined A4 in 1935, and subsequently 35 in total.

regards
Kimball
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#15 Posted : 22 August 2017 08:25:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
.......

What do you think about Australian locos?

I have to add another one: the LENR Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman

https://en.wikipedia.org..._A3_4472_Flying_Scotsman


Hi Wolf,

Where do you start?
Steam engines?
The NSWGR AD60 Garrett has been mentioned, but there are so many others that qualify in my book.
Lima made a NSWGR C38 Pacific in the 1970/80 decades that proved very popular.
South Australia had large impressive broad gauge locos that looked almost American.

Kimball
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#16 Posted : 22 August 2017 09:25:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
.......

What do you think about Australian locos?

...



Hi Wolf,

Where do you start?
Steam engines?


Well, yes. BigGrin

I dare any steam enthusiast to not be moved by this...



and I'm purposely picking out NSW not just because I was born there, but also it is standard-gauge... and that's important to me in the models

In my dream I see a Langer-Heinrich style set, and for some of the other Australian steam in action including Beyer-Garratt and Pacific class:

(Make sure you have the sound turned up...)

Edited by user 22 August 2017 15:44:03(UTC)  | Reason: Spelling correction

- Herman
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Offline hvc  
#17 Posted : 22 August 2017 10:47:18(UTC)
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And then once you've got a long NSW coal train to pull, then in my dreams Märklin would make a model of the Metropolitan Vickers 46 class, in the cat whiskers Indian Red colour scheme:

46-class-4631-1.jpeg

a classic and powerful electric.

And while I didn't approve of the later, garish, paint schemes, this video shows the beautiful controls in the cab...



and in case someone at Märklin is paying attention more pictures of the 46 class on railroadpictures.de at:

http://www.railroadpictures.de/html/archivbaureihe.php?Param=10CH--RhBGe6/6%20II000|0|AUS-NSW|46%20class|0|0|0

- Herman in dreamland.
- Herman
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#18 Posted : 22 August 2017 13:01:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hvc Go to Quoted Post


Well, yes. BigGrin

I dare any steam enthusiast to not be moved by this...

.....................................

and I'm purposely picking out NSW not just because I was born there, but also it is standard-gauge... and that's important to me in the models

In my dream I see a Langer-Heinrich style set, and for some of the other Australian steam in action including Garrats and Pacific:

(Make sure you have the sound turned up...)




Hello Herman,


Thank you for your post which I enjoyed very much (more so with the sound turned up)! ThumpUp
I have never before seen movie image of double-headed Garratts - fantastic.

You may be interested to note that Garratts first appeared in Australia in Tasmania, by commission of the Tasmanian Government, hence my interest in Garratts. I would think I am dreaming to expect Märklin to produce a Garratt Model.

I have posted on this topic previously on the forum, see my post number 15 at : https://www.marklin-user...rum/posts/m463162-Beyer- BigGrin


Regards,

PJ

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Offline NS1200  
#19 Posted : 22 August 2017 17:32:49(UTC)
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NS 1300,export version of the French speedrecordloco in 1955,full metal Marklin of course:

https://www.muilwijkmode...roducten/art/Loc1300.jpg

NS VIRM doubledeck Intercity,servicespeed 140 km/h,very comfortable with good seats,popular train in Holland:

http://www.finnmoller.dk/rail-nl/virm/ns8744.jpg

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Online kiwiAlan  
#20 Posted : 22 August 2017 23:18:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post

I have to add another one: the LENR Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman

https://en.wikipedia.org..._A3_4472_Flying_Scotsman


Yes please. I did wonder if it might have a special anniversary this year, but it was 1934 it did the first officially recorded 100mph by a steam loco. Prior to that City of Truro is reputed to have done 100mph quite some time earlier, but it wasn't a verified speed attempt.

Looking at the list from the Insider questionaire, I won't be surprised if it is the Vanderbilt for the US market, to complement the Challenger from last year (or was it the year before).

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#21 Posted : 23 August 2017 01:56:20(UTC)
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To complement the existing US sortiment:


Any early "general purpose" diesel with dynamic brakes as, EMD GP7 or GP 9. Or a second generation diesel as EMD GP 30.
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Offline NS1200  
#22 Posted : 23 August 2017 04:00:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
To complement the existing US sortiment:


Any early "general purpose" diesel with dynamic brakes as, EMD GP7 or GP 9. Or a second generation diesel as EMD GP 30.


Would love to see the good old F7 in CN colors.

http://tri-ang.weebly.co...4740720/4688158_orig.jpg

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#23 Posted : 23 August 2017 07:15:31(UTC)
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How about a nice Volker Rail train?

ns33-volker203-5.jpg
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#24 Posted : 23 August 2017 12:04:05(UTC)
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May I put my hand up for a Swedish SJ RA class?

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Offline GlennM  
#25 Posted : 23 August 2017 14:02:03(UTC)
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I have been a Beyer Garrett fan for years, having been lucky enough to not only see them in the flesh but also to travel on trains pulled by them in Rhodesia UDI era. For other fans I would like ot note that there is a fully restored version in the Museum of Science and Industry, if anyone is passing;

[img]https://www.flickr.com/photos/45777493@N06/5287940391[/img]




Here are a couple of images I took of a RR (Rhodesian Railways) Beyer Garrett at Victoria Falls station/water stop in either 1973 or 1975 (I have also added another interesting steamer at the end also RR)


img057b_zps3ih2wczm.jpg
21055119_1721180048183792_1784768531318649354_o.jpg
20989085_1721179574850506_3623696480582058212_o.jpg
21015928_1721178788183918_8043797621945959401_o.jpg

21054952_1721181551516975_8643417220923072372_o.jpg
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#26 Posted : 23 August 2017 22:34:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GlennM Go to Quoted Post
I have been a Beyer Garrett fan for years, having been lucky enough to not only see them in the flesh but also to travel on trains pulled by them in Rhodesia

Nice shots of Beyer Garretts. I worked on the Northern Rhodesian, later Zambian, Copperbelt. I knew 'em well. There was a tale that used to go around that steam loco drivers who had been banned for drunkeness in the UK could always get a job again in RSA, and if they blotted their copybook again there they moved on to Rhodesia Railways who would hire them, and the last stop on that road was driving on the Copperbelt mine railroads. True or not, many of the mine engine drivers I knew were lushes, although I am indebted to one of them who sometimes let me take control of the steam loco (not a B-G) running up to the main concentrator from the outlying mine where I was night-shift Mine Captain.
Happy Days
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#27 Posted : 23 August 2017 22:53:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hvc Go to Quoted Post

I dare any steam enthusiast to not be moved by this...

Dare taken, and movement registered in thumping exhaust blastsBigGrin


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#28 Posted : 24 August 2017 11:11:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jabez Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: GlennM Go to Quoted Post
I have been a Beyer Garrett fan for years, having been lucky enough to not only see them in the flesh but also to travel on trains pulled by them in Rhodesia

Nice shots of Beyer Garretts. I worked on the Northern Rhodesian, later Zambian, Copperbelt. I knew 'em well. There was a tale that used to go around that steam loco drivers who had been banned for drunkeness in the UK could always get a job again in RSA, and if they blotted their copybook again there they moved on to Rhodesia Railways who would hire them, and the last stop on that road was driving on the Copperbelt mine railroads. True or not, many of the mine engine drivers I knew were lushes, although I am indebted to one of them who sometimes let me take control of the steam loco (not a B-G) running up to the main concentrator from the outlying mine where I was night-shift Mine Captain.
Happy Days
Jabez


Jabez

it seems that at some point or other many people served time in that part of the world.

We were in Luanshya heart of the Copperbelt 1970 to 1978 for Roan Antelope Mines. If you know it at all we started out living on M avenue and later moved to C avenue opposite the park. Happy Days


This is me at Shaft 14 in late '73, it was another two years before I went underground for the first time at Stork Shaft in a bi level man cage, quite an experience!!!!!

Me at 14 shaft.jpg
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#29 Posted : 24 August 2017 14:56:36(UTC)
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This is me at Shaft 14 in late '73, it was another two years before I went underground for the first time at Stork Shaft in a bi level man cage, quite an experience!!!!!

Me at 14 shaft.jpg


Aw shucks, you wouldn't know it to look at him now ...Laugh Laugh Laugh

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#30 Posted : 24 August 2017 17:53:02(UTC)
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39912 AC12 Cab Forward Southern Pacific in wooden box - 849 EURO.Smile

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#31 Posted : 24 August 2017 18:07:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: GlennM Go to Quoted Post


Still just as handsome Sneaky Sneaky Wink Sneaky Sneaky

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#32 Posted : 24 August 2017 21:18:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Hi Wolf,

Where do you start?
Steam engines?
The NSWGR AD60 Garrett has been mentioned, but there are so many others that qualify in my book.
Lima made a NSWGR C38 Pacific in the 1970/80 decades that proved very popular.
South Australia had large impressive broad gauge locos that looked almost American.

Kimball


Hi Kimball,

impressive this listing. More as I expected and I am just reading, reading, reading and of course try to find pictures of each loco in the internet – not an easy job. Unfortunately I do not know most of them and unfortunately not for every loco is a picture available. But yes, this summary is going in the direction I was thinking about. Also I think we should evaluate a primary locomotive for each country, especially your country.

E.g. in the US it is very obvious the "Big Boy", in Germany it will be the steamer BR 01 and BR 103, I think (other opinions welcome). But I guess that every country has such popular locomotives. Who knows them?

So we find and define this primary and “first of all” loco for each country. Then define the version of this loco. This impressive collection of locos reveals already the plenty of locos built in various versions, even across country or railway company borders. Out of this massive range of locos we shall find the only one country locomotive, we at MUN like and want.

But beside the locos we shall define which function should be possible with these locos. After a CS is able to toggle 32 functions, we should define which ones are desirable. E.g. Maerklin has since several decades the Telex coupler. Why only an automatic coupler at the loco and not for each coach? 16 addresses will be good for 8 coaches. The current coupling is already in use. This makes to me more sense instead of getting an announcement like “das Fett brennt” Sad (the fat is burning).

I start less with the propulsion of the engine, I would start more with the most loved, well known, or whatever loco in this country. And of course there could be more than one. Then we have to do a ranking within these country locos.

What do you think about it?

Regards

TEEWolf
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Offline Jabez  
#33 Posted : 25 August 2017 00:40:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GlennM Go to Quoted Post

it seems that at some point or other many people served time in that part of the world.

That's very true. I have visited mining camps all over the world and there was usually at least one ex-Copperbelter there somewhere.
There is even a site http://www.greatnorthroad.org/ for veterans of the old Northern Rhodesia/Zambia if you want to indulge in a little nostalgia.
I'd left before '73, I knew Luanshya well, although I worked at the Nchanga and Nkana mines in Chingola and Kitwe.
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Offline Normmeister  
#34 Posted : 25 August 2017 01:27:54(UTC)
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For those of you wanting a NSW 46 class to run on their Marklin set up, consider the Auscision version. Although it is 2 rail, I found it not difficult to convert to 3 rail operation, I just put a pick up shoe underneath on one of the bogies. Usually with such conversions I also change the wheels to NEM types (bigger flanges) but in this case I did not have any of the right size so stuck with the existing wheels. It runs without any problems on my layout, which is half K track and half C track.
Digital of course. BigGrin

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Offline DaleSchultz  
#35 Posted : 25 August 2017 01:36:09(UTC)
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Without a doubt, a Beyer-Peacock Garrett
Used to see them in South Africa

I think the success of the bigboy in places other than the USA indicates that a standard gauge Beyer-Peacock Garrett in HO would be a successful model given its distinctive design.
Dale
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#36 Posted : 25 August 2017 12:20:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Hi Wolf,

Where do you start?
Steam engines?
The NSWGR AD60 Garrett has been mentioned, but there are so many others that qualify in my book.
Lima made a NSWGR C38 Pacific in the 1970/80 decades that proved very popular.
South Australia had large impressive broad gauge locos that looked almost American.

Kimball


Hi Kimball,

impressive this listing. More as I expected and I am just reading, reading, reading and of course try to find pictures of each loco in the internet – not an easy job. Unfortunately I do not know most of them and unfortunately not for every loco is a picture available. But yes, this summary is going in the direction I was thinking about. Also I think we should evaluate a primary locomotive for each country, especially your country.........

What do you think about it?

Regards

TEEWolf


Hi Wolf,
OK the problem for Australia is that we use 3 gauges:
So how do Marklin do the scale to run on HO scale track = 16.5mm?
1600 mm rep engines include (Victoria) H class (Heavy Harry) and R class, (South Australia) 500 class ................. 1:96 scale (maybe OK at 1:87)
1435 mm rep engines include AD60 and C38 .................................................................................................. 1:87
1067 mm rep engines include BB18.25 and Beyer Garrett ................................................................................. 1:65 (S scale = 1:64)

500 class in green colour
504
and
UserPostedImage
and
502

BB18.25
1016

Queensland Beyer Garrett, possibly similar to the RHodesia and S African garretts.
Beyer Garrett

Kimball
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#37 Posted : 25 August 2017 12:33:07(UTC)
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1600 mm gauge Victoria S class
UserPostedImage

NSWGR 1435 mm gauge C38
C38

From a marketing point of view, you have to realise that railways are not uppermost in the Australian mind.
The railway network is quite sparse, because one third Australian population is conentrated in 3 greater urban areas, Melbourne Sydney and Brisbane.
There are few passenger services outside of these urban areas.

To illustrate, Aldi put a Marklin train set on sale in Australia in Christmas 2015, and there were many sets remaining on the shelf in mid-2016.
So while the train set can be made attractive, there is little market here.
Overseas buyers will take Australian models, more than Australian buyers perhaps.


Kimball
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Offline GlennM  
#38 Posted : 25 August 2017 12:49:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DaleSchultz Go to Quoted Post
Without a doubt, a Beyer-Peacock Garrett
Used to see them in South Africa

I think the success of the bigboy in places other than the USA indicates that a standard gauge Beyer-Peacock Garrett in HO would be a successful model given its distinctive design.


Seems it is clear that we would like to see a Beyer Garrett model, may I also suggest that the loco be accompanied by a set of transfers reflecting numerous railroads so we can each personalise the loco to our tastes ThumpUp ThumpUp
Don't look back, your not heading that way.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#39 Posted : 26 August 2017 08:42:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Kanga Go to Quoted Post
May I put my hand up for a Swedish SJ RA class?

Karl


Hi Karl,
Victorian Railways (Australia) had a similar double-cab electric, a different shaped nose.

VR L class

regards
Kimball
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Offline vilithejou  
#40 Posted : 26 August 2017 12:40:51(UTC)
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Hello

We all have many dreams from what we see but I think we have a great candidate and it's the S 3/6 K.bay.Sts.bahn with a completely new tooling
He has just left a major repair at the Bayerische Museum in Nordlingen, will be at IMA Göppingen, is famous and has appeared in many films.

I will prefer the French 241A, but hopefully, in 20 days we will know
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Offline NS1200  
#41 Posted : 02 September 2017 10:14:25(UTC)
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A tinplate Rio Grande caboose for my good old Rio Grande F7 A units?

http://theunionstation.o...t/uploads/DNRGyellow.jpg
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
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Offline steventrain  
#42 Posted : 02 September 2017 10:36:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Kanga Go to Quoted Post
May I put my hand up for a Swedish SJ RA class?

Karl


Hi Karl,
Victorian Railways (Australia) had a similar double-cab electric, a different shaped nose.

VR L class

regards
Kimball


Hornby made the 'diesel' with one cab locos in 1970s.

http://www.hornbyguide.c...em_details.asp?itemid=20

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Offline danmarklinman  
#43 Posted : 02 September 2017 15:01:32(UTC)
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heres my revised wish list:-)
241a I hope to see soon👍😁
Also 232u1, 241p and 141r All SNCF steam locomotive s
All nice big chunky locos, which would be great to see in metal with MFX+ decoders. And to go with them, an old Marklin model, but as new tooling for an Inox DEV.

Edited by user 05 September 2017 14:39:46(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline vilithejou  
#44 Posted : 06 September 2017 07:40:55(UTC)
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Hi

The last news from Göppingen confirm me that Marklin is making a new Tooling of SNCF 241, we don't no if A or P.
They don't confirm is the special loco for now, or it will be on NH2018... but SNCF 241 is on way!!!
Joan Vilarrúbia
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Offline danmarklinman  
#45 Posted : 06 September 2017 08:50:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
Hi

The last news from Göppingen confirm me that Marklin is making a new Tooling of SNCF 241, we don't no if A or P.
They don't confirm is the special loco for now, or it will be on NH2018... but SNCF 241 is on way!!!


Yippee yippee Love BigGrin LOL LOL
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Offline jvuye  
#46 Posted : 06 September 2017 10:57:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post

.....
heres my revised wish list:-)
241a I hope to see soon👍😁
Also 232u1, 241p and 141r All SNCF steam locomotive s
All nice big chunky locos, which would be great to see in metal with MFX+ decoders. And to go with them, an old Marklin model, but as new tooling for an Inox DEV.


Definitely a great idea and something that would be welcome by many people here in France, as I suspect that there will be a 2 rail TRIX version.

As for the DEV Inox, maybe it's time to get the LS Models of pre-TEE days Mistral sets before they're all gone!

Of course if Märklin adds these too...I'm going to be broke again for a while!

See ya next week in Goeppingen!

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Offline danmarklinman  
#47 Posted : 06 September 2017 11:24:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post

.....
heres my revised wish list:-)
241a I hope to see soon👍😁
Also 232u1, 241p and 141r All SNCF steam locomotive s
All nice big chunky locos, which would be great to see in metal with MFX+ decoders. And to go with them, an old Marklin model, but as new tooling for an Inox DEV.


Definitely a great idea and something that would be welcome by many people here in France, as I suspect that there will be a 2 rail TRIX version.

As for the DEV Inox, maybe it's time to get the LS Models of pre-TEE days Mistral sets before they're all gone!

Of course if Märklin adds these too...I'm going to be broke again for a while!

See ya next week in Goeppingen!



I like to, but I will not be able to go this year👎☹️, I think they might announce the 241a in Goppingen perhaps:-) maybe have one running as it's based I think not to far away.
They announced the sncf 40100 +Pba just before
Xmas, so maybe they will do the same. It I imagine will not be on sale, until much later. As I usually the case.
Glad you like my ideas.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#48 Posted : 06 September 2017 12:04:33(UTC)
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Moved topic from 'News from Marklin' forum to 'General MRR', as this thread contains anything and everything except actual news from Marklin!
Offline river6109  
#49 Posted : 06 September 2017 13:06:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post
heres my revised wish list:-)
241a I hope to see soon👍😁
Also 232u1, 241p and 141r All SNCF steam locomotive s
All nice big chunky locos, which would be great to see in metal with MFX+ decoders. And to go with them, an old Marklin model, but as new tooling for an Inox DEV.


if its as good and priced as a Ree model I'll buy one. (SNCF 231, 241)

John

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Offline Hackcell  
#50 Posted : 06 September 2017 15:44:11(UTC)
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US based diesel engines, japanese high speed trains.
US steam machines like the Allegheny.
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