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Offline nevw  
#1 Posted : 21 June 2008 09:03:04(UTC)
nevw

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What are the features of this decoder and is it the early Delta Decoder with 4 Mouse Piano Keys?

Thanks,
nev
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Offline RayF  
#2 Posted : 21 June 2008 11:11:07(UTC)
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Nev, the 6080 is the original digital decoder. Big and chunky, with no load regulation. It is designed to be used with the AC motor.

The 6080 comes with 8 switches (mouse piano - I hate that term!), so that you can access all 80 addresses. It will automatically detect analogue operation.

Only F0 is supported by this decoder - normally used for the lights.

The Delta decoder in its original form was much more limited. You could select 16 addresses by soldering pads, and the lights were on when the engine was moving only. In its later incarnations it became more and more similar to a 6080.

Ray
Ray
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Offline nevw  
#3 Posted : 21 June 2008 11:55:38(UTC)
nevw

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THanks RAy,
Nev
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
Offline intruder  
#4 Posted : 21 June 2008 16:14:48(UTC)
intruder

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I found this photo of the 6080 decoder:

http://www.pallund.dk/marklin/pictures/6080_scan.jpg
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
Offline mmervine  
#5 Posted : 21 June 2008 16:33:25(UTC)
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A decoder made in Germany...those were the good old days!
Märklin C-track, Marklin Digital & ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss
http://www.ete-ene.org/m...mervines-layout-gallery/
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Offline steventrain  
#6 Posted : 21 June 2008 22:39:12(UTC)
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Lets have a look some different of 6080.

Date 1985 type (3653 Class 120).

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Date 1991 (3660 Class 111).

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Date 1992 (3682 Class V221).

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Date 1993 (3658 Class 103).

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Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline nevw  
#7 Posted : 22 June 2008 02:59:25(UTC)
nevw

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THankyou Stephen. Getting a HAG from 1998 fitted with a 6080 decoder by the dealer when originally purchased.

NEV
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
Offline Lars Westerlind  
#8 Posted : 22 June 2008 09:57:16(UTC)
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It's the 1985 which counts; still the Motorola standard chip on board :-)
A, those were the days. And the decoders were clumsy and bad performers.
/Lars
Offline Maxi  
#9 Posted : 22 June 2008 16:43:11(UTC)
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But progress had to start from something.wink
Offline WelshMatt  
#10 Posted : 23 June 2008 16:49:24(UTC)
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I think it very much depends on the motor they were paired with and indeed the loco. I have a couple of DHG 700s with this decoder which have very poor control, to the extent that they're not all that useful as shunters and will probably get 60760s if Marklin still make that kit. However, I also have a 3774 (transparent Br. 216) which is a fine performer with the same decoder but a different motor.
Matt from Wales.

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Offline mmervine  
#11 Posted : 23 June 2008 17:13:56(UTC)
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Matt:

The 60760 kits will be available again later this summer.

r/mark
Märklin C-track, Marklin Digital & ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss
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Offline intruder  
#12 Posted : 23 June 2008 18:07:54(UTC)
intruder

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This is the first generation 6080, as seen in Steventrains photo.

A 3772 from 1985

UserPostedImage
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
Offline Webmaster  
#13 Posted : 23 June 2008 21:02:39(UTC)
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First generation - With Zymos controller chip - the "original"...
Then the LME03 - Lenz-Märklin-Elektronik - only understands the "old" protocol, also used in 3611/3613/3614 Württemberg C:s ...

Those relics are a long way from the first "high efficiency" drive which was made possible by the 701.13 chip (in original 6090 decoders)... But they do work ok still...
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes. He who does not ask a question remains a fool forever. [Old Chinese Proverb]
Offline DaleSchultz  
#14 Posted : 24 June 2008 08:58:18(UTC)
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Offline tekin65  
#15 Posted : 24 June 2008 12:41:36(UTC)
tekin65

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw
<br />THankyou Stephen. Getting a HAG from 1998 fitted with a 6080 decoder by the dealer when originally purchased.

NEV


Nev hi,

I just converted my Hag Re 6/6 to digital with 6080; works like a dream. Congratulations!

Cem.
3 rail: C-track with CS2 2 rail: Trix C-track with Trix MS - K.Bay., DRG, DR, DB, SBB, TCDD

Now all eras but no ICE

My loco inventory for the interested
Offline nevw  
#16 Posted : 24 June 2008 13:15:54(UTC)
nevw

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Good one Cem. I hope to get my Hag 250.1 next week. Instead of one trailer/Cab Car it has 2 so is a 3 car consist.
Nev
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
Offline tekin65  
#17 Posted : 24 June 2008 13:20:44(UTC)
tekin65

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Hey Nev,

Check "How many locomotives ..." thread! biggrin

Cem.
3 rail: C-track with CS2 2 rail: Trix C-track with Trix MS - K.Bay., DRG, DR, DB, SBB, TCDD

Now all eras but no ICE

My loco inventory for the interested
Offline nevw  
#18 Posted : 24 June 2008 14:29:04(UTC)
nevw

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tekin65
<br />Hey Nev,

Check "How many locomotives ..." thread! biggrin

Cem.


Good Buying. biggrinbiggrin
N
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
Offline nevw  
#19 Posted : 04 July 2008 03:23:00(UTC)
nevw

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Got the HAG 25o, runs nicely.

Question: What Voltage does the decoder supply to the interior Lights??
Headlights are Ok but the interior light is almost brown. Going to open up this morning . Looks like the original bulb was not changed for a lower voltage one.
nev
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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