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Informative New Mobilstation 2 ( Art 60667 ) with WLAN presented by Marklin - Mobilstation 2
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#51 Posted : 16 March 2023 14:13:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: clapcott Go to Quoted Post
In response to how the planned process for doing updates willbe done, I have the following response from Marklin.

- If your WiFi is connected to internet, the MS WLAN can get what it needs from there.
- If there is no internet connection you can download the update file from our web site ...


the nugget in this is
... and install it via the web user-interface of the MS WLAN.


We can now speculate what else might be available via the web user-interface
May be a semi-ergonomic means to manage the layout signals and turnouts ...


That is something I had considered - will the current cs2 PC program connect to the wifi box?
Also does this then introduce a way to update a standard ms2 without using a cs2/3?
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Offline clapcott  
#52 Posted : 23 March 2023 07:18:12(UTC)
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In response to a query re Lococards

The 60667 MS2 WLAN no longer has a card reader integrated in the device.
The space in the unit was needed for the additional technology.
Peter
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Offline Minok  
#53 Posted : 23 March 2023 07:44:17(UTC)
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In response to a query re Lococards

The 60667 MS2 WLAN no longer has a card reader integrated in the device.
The space in the unit was needed for the additional technology.


Well that is a shame given how prone to loosing its mind and needing a reset the MS2 design is.
So every time one must pull all the locos back to programming track to relearn them?
Double bad for DCC only locos that you need to manually set up in the MS to get all the functions.
Can it at least slave off of a normal MS2 to enable getting the data that way?
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Offline clapcott  
#54 Posted : 23 March 2023 08:46:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: clapcott Go to Quoted Post
In response to how the planned process for doing updates willbe done, I have the following response from Marklin.

- If your WiFi is connected to internet, the MS WLAN can get what it needs from there.
- If there is no internet connection you can download the update file from our web site ...


the nugget in this is
... and install it via the web user-interface of the MS WLAN.


We can now speculate what else might be available via the web user-interface
May be a semi-ergonomic means to manage the layout signals and turnouts ...


That is something I had considered - will the current cs2 PC program connect to the wifi box?
Also does this then introduce a way to update a standard ms2 without using a cs2/3?


I am on the fence on the conveyed meaning, and whether it is the MS2 WLAN that has the "web user interface" or if it is in the 60117.

it seems to me to be rather overkill to factor this into the MS2 WLAN itself when it (for operation) must connect to either a CS (home network) or the 60117 anyway!
The stability (hardwired to power through the 60113/6) of the 60117 would appear to be a more logical coordination point, and maybe beter able to provide the file space for firmware images to ALL
- MS2 legacy
- MS2 WLAN
- Trackbox
Peter
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Offline clapcott  
#55 Posted : 23 March 2023 08:50:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Minok Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: clapcott Go to Quoted Post
In response to a query re Lococards

The 60667 MS2 WLAN no longer has a card reader integrated in the device.
The space in the unit was needed for the additional technology.

....
Can it at least slave off of a normal MS2 to enable getting the data that way?

I do have an outstandin query on the subject of " who is Master".

If, (and I am not yet assuming it is possible until I get handon) the MS2 WLAN + 60117 can work with a 60116(3) WITHOUT another legacy MS2 6053/7,then it needs to be able to be the master, but even then - is it the MS2 WLAN OR the 60117 that holds the Roster details.
Peter
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Offline clapcott  
#56 Posted : 23 March 2023 09:02:58(UTC)
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Well that is a shame ...

I concur, and would be inclined to cancel my order if not for my technical curiosity.

Peter
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Offline mbarreto  
#57 Posted : 23 March 2023 10:24:57(UTC)
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About the non existence of the card reader/writer it is not time yet to blame. Maybe it can save and read configuration to an external device. That would be much better than the cards solution.
Let's wait and see...

Miguel
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Offline clapcott  
#58 Posted : 24 March 2023 21:47:29(UTC)
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Maybe it can save and read configuration to an external device. That would be much better than the cards solution.


you are refering to one aspect of transferring data.

I am more interested in the operational selection of trains. I.e aleviating the non-ergonomic and time consuming need to change glasses and pick through 40 meaningless dots having to read the screen as you go.

I would rather look at the trains
Peter
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Offline mbarreto  
#59 Posted : 24 March 2023 23:12:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: clapcott Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

Maybe it can save and read configuration to an external device. That would be much better than the cards solution.


you are refering to one aspect of transferring data.

I am more interested in the operational selection of trains. I.e aleviating the non-ergonomic and time consuming need to change glasses and pick through 40 meaningless dots having to read the screen as you go.

I would rather look at the trains


I understand your point of view, although I think the Mobile Station, even it can have up to 40 locs "pre-configured", it is not intended
to be used with such a number.
As a you say, the card is a fast way to select the desired locomotive.

Miguel


Mostly Märklin H0.


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