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Offline hvc  
#201 Posted : 25 July 2020 09:10:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: applor Go to Quoted Post
I can post it Monday if interested.


Definitely interested!

- H.

- Herman
Offline applor  
#202 Posted : 27 July 2020 06:04:58(UTC)
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Well here are my current station throat designs. Allows for a uni-directional platform track from each direction, a bi-directional platform track, bi-directional passing track and a bi-directional freight track.

The only issue is on the left side throat there is a 24912 wide curve coming off a wide radius curved point (instead of 24315) but it was the best option there as the alternatives looked terrible. Otherwise all OK.
I am not convinced with the right side station throat with that curved point, it doesn't look terrible but not great either.
The 24611 track and the 24330 will lead to some freight sidings, as that last track (5) is the bi-directional freight track, you can see a pocket off the left side for the changeover.

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Offline applor  
#203 Posted : 27 July 2020 06:29:41(UTC)
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Right side with R9 switches instead of the curved switch, definitely a better look.

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Offline hvc  
#204 Posted : 27 July 2020 11:19:28(UTC)
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Looks good!

Just one suggestion- not better or worse, but you could save a bit of space (and make the station longer) with this...

Screen Shot 2020-07-27 at 7.09.08 PM.jpg

I have abused the curved turnout geometry somewhat, but it works in practice.

- H
- Herman
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#205 Posted : 03 August 2020 16:14:34(UTC)
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A Windows XP application by a German gent for determining straight C track combinations to attain a desired length:

https://www.henningvoose...oads/index_downloads.htm
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Offline Garoux  
#206 Posted : 04 August 2020 09:34:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Hi,
I want to be able to see a concentration of knowledge and ideas on Marklin C track in this forum.
............

I agree. The Marklin C track offers a good quality network construction system for appearance and structure.
I have only one very little regret.
- discrete sockets for B and O on the side of the ballast. It would be easier to implement connections.





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Offline Minok  
#207 Posted : 04 August 2020 17:43:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Garoux Go to Quoted Post

I agree. The Marklin C track offers a good quality network construction system for appearance and structure.
I have only one very little regret.
- discrete sockets for B and O on the side of the ballast. It would be easier to implement connections.


A separate clip on component that you snap onto the c track similar to some signals which connects to the B and O below and provides those sockets would be ideal , then there isn’t the need to make special variants of various track pieces.
Toys of tin and wood rule!
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Offline Bogenschütze  
#208 Posted : 04 August 2020 18:33:21(UTC)
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I wholeheartedly agree. I am still operating a "carpetbahn" whilst planning my permanent layout when space permits. This does have the advantage that every time I put the track together I try out a new configuration which teaches me what works and what doesn't. However, I really detest trying to push the spade connectors from my 60116 box onto the nearest track piece. Sometimes they just slide on, other times I spend ages pushing them with pliers. Also the red and brown wires sneaking out under the plastic ballast doesn't look like it was well designed.

Keith
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Offline applor  
#209 Posted : 13 August 2020 07:29:44(UTC)
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Has anyone tried making the missing 9.3 degree curve piece from a 24215 or 24315?
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Offline river6109  
#210 Posted : 13 August 2020 07:46:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: applor Go to Quoted Post
Right side with R9 switches instead of the curved switch, definitely a better look.

Untitled3.jpg


the 24712 in the middle could this not be replaced by a double switch by saving a left hand turnout on the right ?

John
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Offline rbw993  
#211 Posted : 13 August 2020 16:31:15(UTC)
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There is no Double Slip Switch that matches the geometry of the 711 0r 712 turnouts. Or do I misunderstand?

Roger
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Offline PacoM  
#212 Posted : 20 August 2020 22:59:45(UTC)
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I have just joined this forum. Since I have read concerns about the lack of a three-way slim switch and the space needed to solve the problem, someone may be interested in how I have suceeded to pass from one to four tracks in just the double length of a switch.
Of course some "surgery" and cutting of the side plastic is needed. I was afraid of spoiling something when I tried, but it is really easy to achieve using just a Dremel or similar device.
I show a picture of the result, so that I am ready to explain the procedure at request.SlimSwitch.jpg
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Offline applor  
#213 Posted : 20 August 2020 23:19:12(UTC)
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Yes it's well known you can omit the 24071 intermediate track piece to shorten the turnout distances but it involves cutting the roadbed.
Thanks for sharing your picture.
If you look at some earlier posts you can see an example of cutting the 3-way switch to also shorten the turnout distance.
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Offline PacoM  
#214 Posted : 21 August 2020 12:06:19(UTC)
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Thank you for answering, applor. I have read a number of posts here indeed, and learnt a lot from them.

The solutions I have seen (e.g. posts 101, 114, 115, 117, 119) are really useful and original, but they imply either “major surgery” (not just biting an angle of the roadbed externally but cutting through a stretch both of plastic and metal pieces and later gluing and soldering) or using tracks in R2 (as the 24630, 24206/7), or both, giving up with the charm of slim switches and their wide radius.

I find some advantages in my suggestion:
1. Four instead of three outputs.
2. Saving one switch engine, since one lever moves two switches at a time, as can be seen in the image below. This particularity, as well as not using a number of short tracks, saves money too.
3. Distance between track centres is 49,5 mm, practically true scale.

I have just modestly tried to contribute with another feasible idea.
PacoMSurgery.jpg
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Offline PacoM  
#215 Posted : 22 August 2020 19:09:43(UTC)
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Now, I would like to show how these switches (in red in the image) may be used in an end or passing station.
The upper layout has been actually built and is inspired (a bit simplified the right part) in the end station in service in my town until 2018.
The lower one intends to show the suitable track combinations, and track separations that may be achieved with them. New straight tracks may be added where vertical lines have been drawn, so as to reach the intended length.
Regards. PacoM
Station slim.jpg
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Offline PacoM  
#216 Posted : 23 August 2020 14:24:55(UTC)
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Sorry, I'm afraid the figures were not readable Station slim entrevias.jpg
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Offline PacoM  
#217 Posted : 23 August 2020 17:57:14(UTC)
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If you are not bored yet, this is another example of matching tracks. Direct through tracks are coloured in yellowStation Sllim - 2.jpg
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Offline applor  
#218 Posted : 24 August 2020 00:52:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PacoM Go to Quoted Post

I have just modestly tried to contribute with another feasible idea.
PacoM



Thankyou for the contribution, I must say I did not realise how involved it was to fit the wide radius turnouts without the 24071 spacer.
I used K track for my layout but my new hidden storage yard is in C track (it was cheaper) and I won't be using the 24071 for that construction to save space so your post should be quite helpful when I get to modifying the track.
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Offline PacoM  
#219 Posted : 25 August 2020 00:24:33(UTC)
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I am sure the experience will be satisfactory. Mine is in debt with the authors of the pictures below that I found in the following sites:
https://www.stummiforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=144822
https://www.modellbahnfo...in-c-gleis-weichen.2554/
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Offline Borsig-Werke  
#220 Posted : 09 September 2020 18:03:13(UTC)
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#221 Posted : 09 September 2020 19:58:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Borsig-Werke Go to Quoted Post
Just started my first layout ever and got many good ideas from this topic. Thank You!

layout and 3D attached, I hope to get your comments how to improve it:
Sorry for spoiling, but this is the wrong topic - see post #1 for the purpose of this thread. I suggest you ask a moderator to move it under either under „Me and my layout“ or „Track plans“.
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Offline Borsig-Werke  
#222 Posted : 09 September 2020 20:30:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Borsig-Werke Go to Quoted Post
Just started my first layout ever and got many good ideas from this topic. Thank You!

layout and 3D attached, I hope to get your comments how to improve it:
Sorry for spoiling, but this is the wrong topic - see post #1 for the purpose of this thread. I suggest you ask a moderator to move it under either under „Me and my layout“ or „Track plans“.


Ok, sorry will remove it.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#223 Posted : 12 September 2020 12:28:00(UTC)
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Emanating from a layout discussion with forum member Borsig-Werke:
gleisdreieck2020doppel-v1.png
Compact double track wye connecting a terminal station to a double track main line.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#224 Posted : 13 September 2020 13:41:33(UTC)
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To put it into a context, the layout schematic would be as follows, which explains the positioning of the 24530/24330 curve pairs:
wye3.png
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