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Offline shannon  
#1 Posted : 02 November 2019 15:35:19(UTC)
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Did any fellow learn about when Marklin 39520 Fc2x3/4 release ?
Marklin have never released further news about this locomotive other than the CAD picture in the catalog of earlier this year.

For celebrating 100 years of Swiss Crocodile, Marklin has announced HO golden crocodile Ce 6/8 II and brand new 1 gauge crocodile with Ce 6/8 III. The last crocodile 39520 seems to be revealed before ending of 2019.

Anyone who collects crocodiles is interested in this strange crocodile ?
Offline RayF  
#2 Posted : 02 November 2019 15:41:53(UTC)
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The Marklin database has it being released in November 2019.

https://www.maerklin.de/...s/details/article/39520/
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Offline TEEWolf  
#3 Posted : 02 November 2019 17:56:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: shannon Go to Quoted Post

Did any fellow learn about when Marklin 39520 Fc2x3/4 release ?
Marklin have never released further news about this locomotive other than the CAD picture in the catalog of earlier this year.

For celebrating 100 years of Swiss Crocodile, Marklin has announced HO golden crocodile Ce 6/8 II and brand new 1 gauge crocodile with Ce 6/8 III. The last crocodile 39520 seems to be revealed before ending of 2019.

Anyone who collects crocodiles is interested in this strange crocodile ?


In addition to @RayF above post, you find

a thread at marklin-users.net about delivery dates

https://www.marklin-user...te-2-November-2019/page4

as well as Maerklin is regularly offering a list about its new item delivery-dates

https://www.maerklin.de/...ormation/delivery-dates/

https://www.maerklin.de/...in-Neuheiten_2019-10.pdf
CS 3 is a controlling station from Märklin - not a central station.
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Offline vilithejou  
#4 Posted : 02 November 2019 22:13:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: shannon Go to Quoted Post

Did any fellow learn about when Marklin 39520 Fc2x3/4 release ?
Marklin have never released further news about this locomotive other than the CAD picture in the catalog of earlier this year.

For celebrating 100 years of Swiss Crocodile, Marklin has announced HO golden crocodile Ce 6/8 II and brand new 1 gauge crocodile with Ce 6/8 III. The last crocodile 39520 seems to be revealed before ending of 2019.

Anyone who collects crocodiles is interested in this strange crocodile ?


I have more than 50 kroks (over 40 Marklin H0, but 2 in z scale and 2 in N scale 1 in spur1)

This Kroko is so special and beautiful kroko... Is a model developed in the same time that Marklin did in large time... but the Kofferli become the only unit of his type...

This modell will appear in green Scheme, and it's possible in museum scheme too

If you can... buy!!!
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Offline shannon  
#5 Posted : 03 November 2019 02:53:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: shannon Go to Quoted Post

Did any fellow learn about when Marklin 39520 Fc2x3/4 release ?
Marklin have never released further news about this locomotive other than the CAD picture in the catalog of earlier this year.

For celebrating 100 years of Swiss Crocodile, Marklin has announced HO golden crocodile Ce 6/8 II and brand new 1 gauge crocodile with Ce 6/8 III. The last crocodile 39520 seems to be revealed before ending of 2019.

Anyone who collects crocodiles is interested in this strange crocodile ?


I have more than 50 kroks (over 40 Marklin H0, but 2 in z scale and 2 in N scale 1 in spur1)

This Kroko is so special and beautiful kroko... Is a model developed in the same time that Marklin did in large time... but the Kofferli become the only unit of his type...

This modell will appear in green Scheme, and it's possible in museum scheme too

If you can... buy!!!


Yes, I am waiting for the rare locomotive which is priced so high. No news disclosed before , even the surprise loc 39436 S3/6 accidently released was earlier than it as well. Will it be the final secretary weapon in 2019?

Offline kiwiAlan  
#6 Posted : 03 November 2019 19:24:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: shannon Go to Quoted Post

Yes, I am waiting for the rare locomotive which is priced so high. No news disclosed before , even the surprise loc 39436 S3/6 accidently released was earlier than it as well. Will it be the final secretary weapon in 2019?


Well, I did wonder when delivery is supposed to occur, as the display model at he IMA in September still had the solid brass driving wheels that the Nurnberg Toy Fair model had. I would have thought that after 8 months the display model would have had more representative wheels seeing delivery is supposed to be this month.



Offline steventrain  
#7 Posted : 04 November 2019 22:46:01(UTC)
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I email marklin last few days ago and will let know from reply from M.

Seen any at goppingen
or gyor production? Far East?
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Offline AntoinePrt  
#8 Posted : 05 November 2019 06:36:25(UTC)
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Hi there,

Have a look at the french forum.
http://forum.e-train.fr/...php?t=87991&start=30

Cheers

Antoine

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Offline shannon  
#9 Posted : 05 November 2019 09:26:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post
Hi there,

Have a look at the french forum.
http://forum.e-train.fr/...php?t=87991&start=30

Cheers

Antoine

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Looks great and highly detailed.ThumpUp

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Offline mbarreto  
#10 Posted : 05 November 2019 12:47:04(UTC)
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The side rods seems are not darkened, like in the new S3/6.
As long as they don't shine or are glossy it is acceptable (IHMO). Otherway would seem a way back to the past.
Mostly Märklin H0.


Offline dickinsonj  
#11 Posted : 07 November 2019 03:31:25(UTC)
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I have had one of these on order for months now and considering how slow Märklin models are to arrive in North America I am hoping for mine sometime after the first of the year.

It is strange that there does not appear to have been any developments on this model in a very long time, as just the few images shown when it was announced are still the only ones out there. It looks quite interesting and very detailed, which I guess you should expect on a loco costing as much as this!

Thanks for the link Antoine - if Trix versions are finally appearing then hopefully the Märklin ones will be along soon!
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
Offline TEEWolf  
#12 Posted : 07 November 2019 18:12:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

The side rods seems are not darkened, like in the new S3/6.
As long as they don't shine or are glossy it is acceptable (IHMO). Otherway would seem a way back to the past.


Confused As of Maerklins website and as the pictures show, this loco has a "Dark brown basic paint scheme with black running gear" (guess this is you mean by "side rods") Maerklin is writing.

https://www.maerklin.de/...s/details/article/39520/

A couple of days ago I received my new S 3/6 (39436). It has a silver running gear, nothing darkened. But my S 2/6 (37017)

https://www.maerklin.de/...e/details/article/37017/

has a darkened running gear.
CS 3 is a controlling station from Märklin - not a central station.
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Offline mbarreto  
#13 Posted : 07 November 2019 23:09:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post

...
Confused As of Maerklins website and as the pictures show, this loco has a "Dark brown basic paint scheme with black running gear" (guess this is you mean by "side rods") Maerklin is writing.
...


Right! I called the "running gears" side rods :)
I prefer as the S2/6.
As it is written in the Märklin website it seems the locomotive will have "black running gears". In the photo above posted by AntoinePrt it doesn't seem so and that is why I wrote they seem to look not darkened. Probably we won't have to wait much more to know how it will be.


Mostly Märklin H0.


Online fkowal  
#14 Posted : 08 November 2019 04:14:07(UTC)
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It just occurred to me that if you were to remove the nose on both ends of the Fc2x3/4 the remaining box housing would look very much like the one from a Be 4/6. Roco makes one, but I keep on hoping Märklin will come out with their own version. I see a glimmer of hope.
Offline jvuye  
#15 Posted : 08 November 2019 15:29:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post

.....

Confused As of Maerklins website and as the pictures show, this loco has a "Dark brown basic paint scheme with black running gear" (guess this is you mean by "side rods") Maerklin is writing.

https://www.maerklin.de/...s/details/article/39520/
....



Just (re-) looked at the description in English
They mention "heating resistors" on the roof!! LOL
These are actually resistor packs used in the electric braking system of the actual loco .
Similar arrangement as found on the Be 4/6 passenger trains cousin loco of this freight engine
Not a big deal, but Märklin's literature translations in English often show a flagrant ignorance of the subject matter.
Where are the days when Jeff from Märklin Inc was in charge?
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Offline shuli1969  
#16 Posted : 10 November 2019 04:55:09(UTC)
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Offline TEEWolf  
#17 Posted : 10 November 2019 19:09:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post
...
Not a big deal, but Märklin's literature translations in English often show a flagrant ignorance of the subject matter.


LOLIndeed like a controlling station changes to a central stationLOL

On the other hand, looking into the dictionary www.dict.cc at the word "central sation" in German stands the word "Zentralstation" and as SYNO Hauptbahnhof, (= HBF), Zentralbahnhof. This is wrong so far. Because nobody uses the word "Zentralstation" for "Hauptbahnhof" in the German language. In German a station is a very generally and broad used word. E.g. every point you stop for whatever reason in German is a station.

Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post

Where are the days when Jeff from Märklin Inc was in charge?

Gone with the time.Huh
CS 3 is a controlling station from Märklin - not a central station.
Offline jvuye  
#18 Posted : 10 November 2019 20:24:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: fkowal Go to Quoted Post
It just occurred to me that if you were to remove the nose on both ends of the Fc2x3/4 the remaining box housing would look very much like the one from a Be 4/6. Roco makes one, but I keep on hoping Märklin will come out with their own version. I see a glimmer of hope.


Good observation!

They were designed at the same time and on the same drawing boards by the same engineers at Brown Boveri!
Then why did the SBB select the competitor's design (SLM and MFO) for the freight locomotive?
Because it was thought that the freight service on the Gotthard would absolutely require electric regenerative braking (where the energy from slowing the train down on the descend could be sent back to the overhead wire and power other locos on the uphill segements..)

Both designs , albeit different, gave good results.

But the BBC design , albeit very effective, was deemed a little too complex to operate for the average locomotive engineer.

The 12 201 (later 14 201) had nevertheless a long career, albeit not at the Gotthard, because the regenerative braking was soon removed and only the resistor pack you can see on top of each cab was maintained.
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Offline Purellum  
#19 Posted : 10 November 2019 20:47:01(UTC)
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Cool

Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Indeed like a controlling station changes to a central station


To me it makes quite good sense to call a CS 1/2/3 a "central station", since it's the center of everything.

And even like with the central stations on the prototypical railroads, all the buses are terminated at the CS 1/2/3 central station.

The only difference is that the prototypical buses have wheels, the buses we use run in wires LOL

The 66045 were a "Delta control"

The 6020 were a "Central unit" - since it had no control buttons, they were added via the 6035.

The 6021 were a "Control unit" - it had build-in control buttons.

I think the term "Controlling station" is a self made name, made up by someone who doesn't really understand the concept.

All of the above mentioned units, and the various mobile stations could also be called "Controlling stations",
for the MS's it would even make more sense. ( To me, at least ) Cool

Per.

P.S: Travelling in Germany can be a challenge, since they have both the Zentral-station and the Zentral-stadion,
and a lot of taxi drivers who doesn't understand much of neither German or English. LOL

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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#20 Posted : 12 November 2019 16:29:01(UTC)
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Hi everyone- any proper reviews of this locomotive yet? I'd love to know if it is worth the high price tag. It would be my large purchase for the year, so I want to make sure its a worthwhile one
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Offline jvuye  
#21 Posted : 12 November 2019 17:04:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: fkowal Go to Quoted Post
It just occurred to me that if you were to remove the nose on both ends of the Fc2x3/4 the remaining box housing would look very much like the one from a Be 4/6. Roco makes one, but I keep on hoping Märklin will come out with their own version. I see a glimmer of hope.


I have the ROCO 3 rail version (in fact two copies of the latest release a couple of years ago) ) It is just perfect.
And not very expensive either.
Cheers
Jacques

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Offline shannon  
#22 Posted : 13 November 2019 05:25:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Hi everyone- any proper reviews of this locomotive yet? I'd love to know if it is worth the high price tag. It would be my large purchase for the year, so I want to make sure its a worthwhile one


Reference to the catalog, no digitally raising and lowering pantographs which also cannot take power from catenary .

More details on the roof and cooling pipes mounted on the side wall.

Interior lighting and Swiss signal lamps included.

Except the brand new tooling, comparing to Ce6/8 II, I don't think it is worth to the price.

Marklin simply try to raise the price which shall be proved by new S3/6 without special functions comparing to BR18.5 or S2/6.
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Offline steventrain  
#23 Posted : 25 November 2019 16:20:18(UTC)
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Email from Marklin

'The production of 39520 is actual running. We hope that the first models will be available at our dealers next month.'
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Offline dickinsonj  
#24 Posted : 26 November 2019 00:44:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Email from Marklin

'The production of 39520 is actual running. We hope that the first models will be available at our dealers next month.'


Cool. Probably February or later for me, which is good since I bought a lot of trains this year and I need a break to catch up financially. ThumpUp
Regards,
Jim

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I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
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Offline steventrain  
#25 Posted : 29 November 2019 21:12:21(UTC)
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Delivery begin from Monday.
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Offline shannon  
#26 Posted : 02 December 2019 11:34:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Delivery begin from Monday.


Thanks for the information

Will Marklin present official pictures or video on Monday ?

The 2020 insider has also been announced earlier than 39520. Marklin seems to ignore this item....Bored
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#27 Posted : 03 December 2019 18:10:24(UTC)
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First on ebay with some images.

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Offline Unholz  
#28 Posted : 04 December 2019 14:36:17(UTC)
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Please take a look at this video:


Have you noticed it? It's absolutely shocking: the front "suitcases" (balcony-like porches) which gave the loco its nickname (Köfferlilok, from Köfferli = small suitcases in Swiss German language) actually MOVE in the curves!! Cursing Mad

This is really an absolute no-go! Sure, I am aware of the fact that Märklin want their locos to negotiate almost every possible curved track - but this looks so totally stupid. ThumbDown
Offline TEEWolf  
#29 Posted : 04 December 2019 15:54:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Go to Quoted Post

Have you noticed it? It's absolutely shocking: the front "suitcases" (balcony-like porches) which gave the loco its nickname (Köfferlilok, from Köfferli = small suitcases in Swiss German language) actually MOVE in the curves!! Cursing Mad

This is really an absolute no-go! Sure, I am aware of the fact that Märklin want their locos to negotiate almost every possible curved track - but this looks so totally stupid. ThumbDown


Do not understand your problem. Suitcases are made for locomotions.

Although, I cannot see any hand grip to take away the Köfferli.Laugh
As a matter of fact the Grand Funk Railroad loved its Locomotiontoo.Love

CS 3 is a controlling station from Märklin - not a central station.
Offline rbonet  
#30 Posted : 04 December 2019 19:08:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Go to Quoted Post

Have you noticed it? It's absolutely shocking: the front "suitcases" (balcony-like porches) which gave the loco its nickname (Köfferlilok, from Köfferli = small suitcases in Swiss German language) actually MOVE in the curves!! Cursing Mad

This is really an absolute no-go! Sure, I am aware of the fact that Märklin want their locos to negotiate almost every possible curved track - but this looks so totally stupid. ThumbDown


I don't understand the problem. AFAIK the prototype "suitcases" were articulated, as reproduced in the Märklin model. One can argue that the "suitcases" are too far away from the main body, but not that this articulation exists. Or perhaps I'm missing something.

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Offline Bart  
#31 Posted : 04 December 2019 20:21:34(UTC)
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There may be a slight movement in the prototype:
Köfferli in Erstfeld

but someone forgot to lay R1 track in Erstfeld for a proper comparison Cool

It seems that the distance between the Köfferli and the body is quite large in the model.

Too bad, this reminds me of the R1 solution for the 39540 Rae TEE...
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Offline Unholz  
#32 Posted : 04 December 2019 20:22:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rbonet Go to Quoted Post
AFAIK the prototype "suitcases" were articulated, as reproduced in the Märklin model. One can argue that the "suitcases" are too far away from the main body, but not that this articulation exists.


The "articulation" on the prototype is only minimal, barely visible. Marklin on the other hand has constructed the "suitcases" in such a brutal manner that one is instantly reminded of the infamous RAe TEE II railcar set (cat. no. 39540) with its atrocious movable body sideframes.

Bart has written just about the same things a few seconds earlier. ThumpUp
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Offline jcrtrains  
#33 Posted : 05 December 2019 00:06:23(UTC)
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Tough to see the movement at Erstfeld in the below. Definetley a small gap in the prototype.

I can only hope my larger radius ( 24 to 28 inches) and very few number 4 switches ( freight yard only ) won’t expose it.

Erstfeld
Offline dickinsonj  
#34 Posted : 05 December 2019 02:04:53(UTC)
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That bogie articulation does not look all that bad to me. This certainly is not the first HO models on which some movements are exaggerated due to the unrealistically tight radii of MRR curves. I have seen videos of some trains that looked unacceptable when running through R1/R2 curves, but which look fine on my layout which has only R4/R5 curves on the mainlines.

I often watch brunelloroso's videos where he runs new models on continuous tight curves and there have been a few models that I have been sure I would hate, but it was not a problem at all on my track. So I am still looking forward to my Fc 2x3/4 and hoping that I like it as much as I think I will. ThumpUp
Regards,
Jim

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Offline jvuye  
#35 Posted : 06 December 2019 20:35:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: rbonet Go to Quoted Post
AFAIK the prototype "suitcases" were articulated, as reproduced in the Märklin model. One can argue that the "suitcases" are too far away from the main body, but not that this articulation exists.


The "articulation" on the prototype is only minimal, barely visible. Marklin on the other hand has constructed the "suitcases" in such a brutal manner that one is instantly reminded of the infamous RAe TEE II railcar set (cat. no. 39540) with its atrocious movable body sideframes.

Bart has written just about the same things a few seconds earlier. ThumpUp


Well it's hard to compromise on "prototypical look" and " usability on a model railroad"
To me, the only glaring problem is the lack of the access ladders to the cabs.
I have the (expensive) Metropolitan model (from the early 1990's) which is not very different from the Märklin model!



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