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Did any fellow learn about when Marklin 39520 Fc2x3/4 release ?
Marklin have never released further news about this locomotive other than the CAD picture in the catalog of earlier this year.
For celebrating 100 years of Swiss Crocodile, Marklin has announced HO golden crocodile Ce 6/8 II and brand new 1 gauge crocodile with Ce 6/8 III. The last crocodile 39520 seems to be revealed before ending of 2019.
Anyone who collects crocodiles is interested in this strange crocodile ?
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Originally Posted by: shannon 
Did any fellow learn about when Marklin 39520 Fc2x3/4 release ?
Marklin have never released further news about this locomotive other than the CAD picture in the catalog of earlier this year.
For celebrating 100 years of Swiss Crocodile, Marklin has announced HO golden crocodile Ce 6/8 II and brand new 1 gauge crocodile with Ce 6/8 III. The last crocodile 39520 seems to be revealed before ending of 2019.
Anyone who collects crocodiles is interested in this strange crocodile ?
In addition to @RayF above post, you find a thread at marklin-users.net about delivery dates https://www.marklin-user...te-2-November-2019/page4as well as Maerklin is regularly offering a list about its new item delivery-dates https://www.maerklin.de/...ormation/delivery-dates/https://www.maerklin.de/...in-Neuheiten_2019-10.pdf
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Originally Posted by: shannon
Did any fellow learn about when Marklin 39520 Fc2x3/4 release ?
Marklin have never released further news about this locomotive other than the CAD picture in the catalog of earlier this year.
For celebrating 100 years of Swiss Crocodile, Marklin has announced HO golden crocodile Ce 6/8 II and brand new 1 gauge crocodile with Ce 6/8 III. The last crocodile 39520 seems to be revealed before ending of 2019.
Anyone who collects crocodiles is interested in this strange crocodile ?
I have more than 50 kroks (over 40 Marklin H0, but 2 in z scale and 2 in N scale 1 in spur1) This Kroko is so special and beautiful kroko... Is a model developed in the same time that Marklin did in large time... but the Kofferli become the only unit of his type... This modell will appear in green Scheme, and it's possible in museum scheme too If you can... buy!!! |
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: shannon
Did any fellow learn about when Marklin 39520 Fc2x3/4 release ?
Marklin have never released further news about this locomotive other than the CAD picture in the catalog of earlier this year.
For celebrating 100 years of Swiss Crocodile, Marklin has announced HO golden crocodile Ce 6/8 II and brand new 1 gauge crocodile with Ce 6/8 III. The last crocodile 39520 seems to be revealed before ending of 2019.
Anyone who collects crocodiles is interested in this strange crocodile ?
I have more than 50 kroks (over 40 Marklin H0, but 2 in z scale and 2 in N scale 1 in spur1) This Kroko is so special and beautiful kroko... Is a model developed in the same time that Marklin did in large time... but the Kofferli become the only unit of his type... This modell will appear in green Scheme, and it's possible in museum scheme too If you can... buy!!! Yes, I am waiting for the rare locomotive which is priced so high. No news disclosed before , even the surprise loc 39436 S3/6 accidently released was earlier than it as well. Will it be the final secretary weapon in 2019?
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Originally Posted by: shannon
Yes, I am waiting for the rare locomotive which is priced so high. No news disclosed before , even the surprise loc 39436 S3/6 accidently released was earlier than it as well. Will it be the final secretary weapon in 2019?
Well, I did wonder when delivery is supposed to occur, as the display model at he IMA in September still had the solid brass driving wheels that the Nurnberg Toy Fair model had. I would have thought that after 8 months the display model would have had more representative wheels seeing delivery is supposed to be this month.
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I email marklin last few days ago and will let know from reply from M.
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Looks great and highly detailed. 
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The side rods seems are not darkened, like in the new S3/6.
As long as they don't shine or are glossy it is acceptable (IHMO). Otherway would seem a way back to the past.
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I have had one of these on order for months now and considering how slow Märklin models are to arrive in North America I am hoping for mine sometime after the first of the year.
It is strange that there does not appear to have been any developments on this model in a very long time, as just the few images shown when it was announced are still the only ones out there. It looks quite interesting and very detailed, which I guess you should expect on a loco costing as much as this!
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto
The side rods seems are not darkened, like in the new S3/6.
As long as they don't shine or are glossy it is acceptable (IHMO). Otherway would seem a way back to the past.
 As of Maerklins website and as the pictures show, this loco has a "Dark brown basic paint scheme with black running gear" (guess this is you mean by "side rods") Maerklin is writing. https://www.maerklin.de/...s/details/article/39520/A couple of days ago I received my new S 3/6 (39436). It has a silver running gear, nothing darkened. But my S 2/6 (37017) https://www.maerklin.de/...e/details/article/37017/has a darkened running gear.
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf ... As of Maerklins website and as the pictures show, this loco has a "Dark brown basic paint scheme with black running gear" (guess this is you mean by "side rods") Maerklin is writing. ... Right! I called the "running gears" side rods :) I prefer as the S2/6. As it is written in the Märklin website it seems the locomotive will have "black running gears". In the photo above posted by AntoinePrt it doesn't seem so and that is why I wrote they seem to look not darkened. Probably we won't have to wait much more to know how it will be. |
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It just occurred to me that if you were to remove the nose on both ends of the Fc2x3/4 the remaining box housing would look very much like the one from a Be 4/6. Roco makes one, but I keep on hoping Märklin will come out with their own version. I see a glimmer of hope.
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Just (re-) looked at the description in English They mention "heating resistors" on the roof!!  These are actually resistor packs used in the electric braking system of the actual loco . Similar arrangement as found on the Be 4/6 passenger trains cousin loco of this freight engine Not a big deal, but Märklin's literature translations in English often show a flagrant ignorance of the subject matter. Where are the days when Jeff from Märklin Inc was in charge? |
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Originally Posted by: jvuye ...
Not a big deal, but Märklin's literature translations in English often show a flagrant ignorance of the subject matter. Indeed like a controlling station changes to a central station On the other hand, looking into the dictionary www.dict.cc at the word "central sation" in German stands the word "Zentralstation" and as SYNO Hauptbahnhof, (= HBF), Zentralbahnhof. This is wrong so far. Because nobody uses the word "Zentralstation" for "Hauptbahnhof" in the German language. In German a station is a very generally and broad used word. E.g. every point you stop for whatever reason in German is a station. Originally Posted by: jvuye
Where are the days when Jeff from Märklin Inc was in charge?
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Originally Posted by: fkowal It just occurred to me that if you were to remove the nose on both ends of the Fc2x3/4 the remaining box housing would look very much like the one from a Be 4/6. Roco makes one, but I keep on hoping Märklin will come out with their own version. I see a glimmer of hope. Good observation! They were designed at the same time and on the same drawing boards by the same engineers at Brown Boveri! Then why did the SBB select the competitor's design (SLM and MFO) for the freight locomotive? Because it was thought that the freight service on the Gotthard would absolutely require electric regenerative braking (where the energy from slowing the train down on the descend could be sent back to the overhead wire and power other locos on the uphill segements..) Both designs , albeit different, gave good results. But the BBC design , albeit very effective, was deemed a little too complex to operate for the average locomotive engineer. The 12 201 (later 14 201) had nevertheless a long career, albeit not at the Gotthard, because the regenerative braking was soon removed and only the resistor pack you can see on top of each cab was maintained. |
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 Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Indeed like a controlling station changes to a central station To me it makes quite good sense to call a CS 1/2/3 a "central station", since it's the center of everything. And even like with the central stations on the prototypical railroads, all the buses are terminated at the CS 1/2/3 central station. The only difference is that the prototypical buses have wheels, the buses we use run in wires The 66045 were a "Delta control" The 6020 were a "Central unit" - since it had no control buttons, they were added via the 6035. The 6021 were a "Control unit" - it had build-in control buttons. I think the term "Controlling station" is a self made name, made up by someone who doesn't really understand the concept. All of the above mentioned units, and the various mobile stations could also be called "Controlling stations", for the MS's it would even make more sense. ( To me, at least ) Per. P.S: Travelling in Germany can be a challenge, since they have both the Zentral-station and the Zentral-stadion, and a lot of taxi drivers who doesn't understand much of neither German or English. |
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Hi everyone- any proper reviews of this locomotive yet? I'd love to know if it is worth the high price tag. It would be my large purchase for the year, so I want to make sure its a worthwhile one |
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Originally Posted by: fkowal It just occurred to me that if you were to remove the nose on both ends of the Fc2x3/4 the remaining box housing would look very much like the one from a Be 4/6. Roco makes one, but I keep on hoping Märklin will come out with their own version. I see a glimmer of hope. I have the ROCO 3 rail version (in fact two copies of the latest release a couple of years ago) ) It is just perfect. And not very expensive either. Cheers Jacques |
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Hi everyone- any proper reviews of this locomotive yet? I'd love to know if it is worth the high price tag. It would be my large purchase for the year, so I want to make sure its a worthwhile one Reference to the catalog, no digitally raising and lowering pantographs which also cannot take power from catenary . More details on the roof and cooling pipes mounted on the side wall. Interior lighting and Swiss signal lamps included. Except the brand new tooling, comparing to Ce6/8 II, I don't think it is worth to the price. Marklin simply try to raise the price which shall be proved by new S3/6 without special functions comparing to BR18.5 or S2/6.
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Email from Marklin
'The production of 39520 is actual running. We hope that the first models will be available at our dealers next month.'
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Email from Marklin
'The production of 39520 is actual running. We hope that the first models will be available at our dealers next month.'
Cool. Probably February or later for me, which is good since I bought a lot of trains this year and I need a break to catch up financially. |
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Delivery begin from Monday. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Delivery begin from Monday. Thanks for the information Will Marklin present official pictures or video on Monday ? The 2020 insider has also been announced earlier than 39520. Marklin seems to ignore this item.... 
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Please take a look at this video: Have you noticed it? It's absolutely shocking: the front "suitcases" (balcony-like porches) which gave the loco its nickname (Köfferlilok, from Köfferli = small suitcases in Swiss German language) actually MOVE in the curves!!   This is really an absolute no-go! Sure, I am aware of the fact that Märklin want their locos to negotiate almost every possible curved track - but this looks so totally stupid. 
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Do not understand your problem. Suitcases are made for locomotions. Although, I cannot see any hand grip to take away the Köfferli.  As a matter of fact the Grand Funk Railroad loved its Locomotiontoo. 
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I don't understand the problem. AFAIK the prototype "suitcases" were articulated, as reproduced in the Märklin model. One can argue that the "suitcases" are too far away from the main body, but not that this articulation exists. Or perhaps I'm missing something. Regards, Rafael |
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There may be a slight movement in the prototype: Köfferli in Erstfeldbut someone forgot to lay R1 track in Erstfeld for a proper comparison It seems that the distance between the Köfferli and the body is quite large in the model. Too bad, this reminds me of the R1 solution for the 39540 Rae TEE... |
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Originally Posted by: rbonet AFAIK the prototype "suitcases" were articulated, as reproduced in the Märklin model. One can argue that the "suitcases" are too far away from the main body, but not that this articulation exists. The "articulation" on the prototype is only minimal, barely visible. Marklin on the other hand has constructed the "suitcases" in such a brutal manner that one is instantly reminded of the infamous RAe TEE II railcar set (cat. no. 39540) with its atrocious movable body sideframes. Bart has written just about the same things a few seconds earlier.
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Tough to see the movement at Erstfeld in the below. Definetley a small gap in the prototype. I can only hope my larger radius ( 24 to 28 inches) and very few number 4 switches ( freight yard only ) won’t expose it. Erstfeld
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That bogie articulation does not look all that bad to me. This certainly is not the first HO models on which some movements are exaggerated due to the unrealistically tight radii of MRR curves. I have seen videos of some trains that looked unacceptable when running through R1/R2 curves, but which look fine on my layout which has only R4/R5 curves on the mainlines. I often watch brunelloroso's videos where he runs new models on continuous tight curves and there have been a few models that I have been sure I would hate, but it was not a problem at all on my track. So I am still looking forward to my Fc 2x3/4 and hoping that I like it as much as I think I will. |
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Originally Posted by: rbonet AFAIK the prototype "suitcases" were articulated, as reproduced in the Märklin model. One can argue that the "suitcases" are too far away from the main body, but not that this articulation exists. The "articulation" on the prototype is only minimal, barely visible. Marklin on the other hand has constructed the "suitcases" in such a brutal manner that one is instantly reminded of the infamous RAe TEE II railcar set (cat. no. 39540) with its atrocious movable body sideframes. Bart has written just about the same things a few seconds earlier. Well it's hard to compromise on "prototypical look" and " usability on a model railroad" To me, the only glaring problem is the lack of the access ladders to the cabs. I have the (expensive) Metropolitan model (from the early 1990's) which is not very different from the Märklin model! |
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Originally Posted by: Unholz Originally Posted by: rbonet AFAIK the prototype "suitcases" were articulated, as reproduced in the Märklin model. One can argue that the "suitcases" are too far away from the main body, but not that this articulation exists. The "articulation" on the prototype is only minimal, barely visible. Marklin on the other hand has constructed the "suitcases" in such a brutal manner that one is instantly reminded of the infamous RAe TEE II railcar set (cat. no. 39540) with its atrocious movable body sideframes. Bart has written just about the same things a few seconds earlier. Well it's hard to compromise on "prototypical look" and " usability on a model railroad" To me, the only glaring problem is the lack of the access ladders to the cabs. I have the (expensive) Metropolitan model (from the early 1990's) which is not very different from the Märklin model! I just looked at the M database and found the info on the 39520: "Aufstiegsleitern liegen bei. Länge über Puffer" ( Access ladders supplied... !) So it simply means those who published the pictures did simply not install them. ... |
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Originally Posted by: jvuye I just looked at the M database and found the info on the 39520: "Aufstiegsleitern liegen bei. Länge über Puffer" ( Access ladders supplied... !) So it simply means those who published the pictures did simply not install them. ... Or those parts are market as for display only, as is the case for some of the parts that came with many of my newer and more detailed locos. |
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I have ordered this item, but Marklin still has not disclosed any official information's which was announced to revealed in November. Marklin accidently released new S3/6 and in regular announced 2020 insider, but no news regarding 39520 which was listed on catalog of 2019 earlier this year was annonced. I always cannot figure out what marklin's marketing strategy is
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The waiting time get shorter. Tomorrow Märklin will ship my Köfferli and it will be home before Christmas  |
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Originally Posted by: Bart There may be a slight movement in the prototype: Köfferli in Erstfeldbut someone forgot to lay R1 track in Erstfeld for a proper comparison It seems that the distance between the Köfferli and the body is quite large in the model. Too bad, this reminds me of the R1 solution for the 39540 Rae TEE... The gap of model apparently is quite wide if compared to the pritotype. https://shop.zugkraft-st...fferlilok-fc-2x3-4-braun
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Originally Posted by: shannon The gap of model apparently is quite wide if compared to the pritotype. ...and the gap even gets glaringly wider when the model runs through curves and turnouts. I wonder why somebody at Märklin got the crazy idea to connect the "suitcases" to the axle mechanism instead of the body shell. On just about every long German steamer the front end with the buffers is also rigid and doesn't jump around like a rubber ball... https://www.youtube.com/...tVY&feature=emb_logo
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A terrible big mistake Märklin! Expensive and design fault. |
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You have two options... 1.- Put the "Kofferli" with the body and the wheel below can goes separately from up 2.- Marklin do it like the real model, the problem is that the drive car pivot far away from front of the locomotive (see "Schleifer"). If you would this lok on Radius R5 or minus that is the best solution... |
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou You have two options... 1.- Put the "Kofferli" with the body and the wheel below can goes separately from up 2.- Marklin do it like the real model, the problem is that the drive car pivot far away from front of the locomotive (see "Schleifer"). If you would this lok on Radius R5 or minus that is the best solution... Even on the straight track it looks awful with big distance between car pivot and the body. In fact if you shall compare with the prototype... |
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Maybe something like the mechanisms used in the close couplers that can extend the distance between the central body and the extremes when the locmotive is in the curves would have a better visual effect.
I don't know if this type of solution would work without derrailling the locomotive when pulling many wagons...
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I haven't seen one yet, but I suspect these suitcase gaps and flexing with the front trucks are all accommodations for R1 curves, which is a curse to Marklin because they need to aim for it, but it means sacrifices.
Adjustability I"d be curious of, but don't have high hopes. It will be interesting to see one in person, then I'll make a purchase decision. My wish list of trains is long enough as-is! |
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Originally Posted by: shannon The gap of model apparently is quite wide if compared to the pritotype. ...and the gap even gets glaringly wider when the model runs through curves and turnouts. I wonder why somebody at Märklin got the crazy idea to connect the "suitcases" to the axle mechanism instead of the body shell. On just about every long German steamer the front end with the buffers is also rigid and doesn't jump around like a rubber ball... https://www.youtube.com/...tVY&feature=emb_logo You guys! You're asserting things you've not even verified yourself! Have you checked how the real engine looks? Have you seen it with your own eyes? I have seen and toured this loco in Erstfeld depot. And I can tell you've just made (big!) fools of yourselves !! Here is a composite of the picture posted by Shannon and an official BBC factory drawing .  Get back on your little blue pills before you touch a model train again! |
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Originally Posted by: jvuye You guys! You're asserting things you've not even verified yourself! Have you checked how the real engine looks? Have you seen it with your own eyes? I have seen and toured this loco in Erstfeld depot. And I can tell you've just made (big!) fools of yourselves !! Here is a composite of the picture posted by Shannon and an official BBC factory drawing . Get back on your little blue pills before you touch a model train again! If you take look at prototype real photo you see the locomotive does looks more closer than in the drawing pictures. The distance between the wheels seems correct but the body in both end seems wrong drawing. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBB_Fc_2x3/4 |
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Joined: 01/03/2008(UTC) Posts: 2,883 Location: South Western France
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: jvuye You guys! You're asserting things you've not even verified yourself! Have you checked how the real engine looks? Have you seen it with your own eyes? I have seen and toured this loco in Erstfeld depot. And I can tell you've just made (big!) fools of yourselves !! Here is a composite of the picture posted by Shannon and an official BBC factory drawing . Get back on your little blue pills before you touch a model train again! If you take look at prototype real photo you see the locomotive does looks more closer than in the drawing pictures. The distance between the wheels seems correct but the body in both end seems wrong drawing. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBB_Fc_2x3/4 OK, now we have here a perfect example of cognitive dissonance! If you've made up your mind, don't you ever be distracted by the facts. I rest my case |
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Originally Posted by: jvuye ... .... This mix of drawings, is impressive! |
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