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john black		#151 Posted : 05 February 2007 11:33:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Thomas Duengefeld <br />dealers collect cs and forward to Marklin. Then updated cs will be send to dealer who informs customers to hand in "old" cs for exchange to a new one A "new" one That way you'd get some f***ed, dirty controller for your personal, clean and sterile specimen. Disgusting ... [xx(]
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john black		#152 Posted : 05 February 2007 11:47:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar <br />If there is a start set with a loco I want and it contains the CS and the price is right this may be a better bet I'm with you, David ... But we'd better wait some time - since I'm quite confident all of today's sets still got the old CS ...
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DasBert33		#153 Posted : 05 February 2007 12:27:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,272		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by fredsaf Maybe the new "Government" of M* has established peace with ESU? I'm thinking exactly the same thing. Everything points to that. Especially because currently it seems there is not much in new updates announced for Ecos (reading their forum), it could very well be that they (ESU) are working hard on the update for CS. I also don't think it is a coincidence that just now that pc support is becoming available for ecos, M announces pc support for CS. As an Ecos owner I can only hope that if there is an agreement it also includes the right to use mfx on the ecos. Otherwise I might need to switch to CS in the future . Bert
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Maxi		#154 Posted : 05 February 2007 15:06:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 757 Location: Wawa, Ontario		In previous posts it is noted that there is both a hardware and software update. There is also a post that the software update will be available for download and free. If I were to read between the lines and take a wild guess, this is what I think could happen (it is just a guess). The software update will be available over the internet and free, the hardware upgrade will cost the customer. The hardware upgrade can be done by sending your CS to your dealer and the required modules be plugged in and verified to work along with the software being upgraded. Customer pays shipping, cost to do upgrade and cost of parts. Upgrade modules will be avialable as spare parts so we could order them and plug them in update software and have all the latest features for the CS. If you just apply the software update then you get some of the features or improvements, when you apply the modules when available then you will get all the features that the software update can provide. The above note is just my wild guess and should not be taken as actual fact. When the upgrades are available to the public we will then know for sure what gets done and how. Maxi.
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Fredrik		#155 Posted : 05 February 2007 16:27:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 642		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by DasBert33 <br /> I'm thinking exactly the same thing. Everything points to that. Especially because currently it seems there is not much in new updates announced for Ecos (reading their forum), it could very well be that they (ESU) are working hard on the update for CS. I also don't think it is a coincidence that just now that pc support is becoming available for ecos, M announces pc support for CS. As an Ecos owner I can only hope that if there is an agreement it also includes the right to use mfx on the ecos. Otherwise I might need to switch to CS in the future . Bert Exactly my opinion - but IF ESU is working on the update - I guess they won't need to work hard... Just enable the mfx-part for the CS and disable DCC (bet it's programmed with compiler switches to enable/disable options) and use the (in april) current version. ECoS and CS will be (almost) the same with only protocol difference.
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DasBert33		#156 Posted : 05 February 2007 17:22:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,272		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by fredsaf Exactly my opinion - but IF ESU is working on the update - I guess they won't need to work hard... Just enable the mfx-part for the CS and disable DCC (bet it's programmed with compiler switches to enable/disable options) and use the (in april) current version. ECoS and CS will be (almost) the same with only protocol difference. The Belgian importer of ESU already confirmed to me that mfx is disabled on ecos using compile switches when I asked him whether mfx was unlockable. Maybe we should ask ESU directly on their forum if there is anything changed regarding the relation with Marklin and the possibility of mfx on Ecos. Bert
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Charlie		#157 Posted : 05 February 2007 17:22:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 707 Location: Texas, USA		Maxi, Latest I know is that if the customer desires the hardware upgrade (S-88 module addition), he will have to return the unit to the dealer. But the hardware and upgrade itself are free. Charlie
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Hemmerich		#158 Posted : 05 February 2007 18:03:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Charlie <br />Maxi, Latest I know is that if the customer desires the hardware upgrade (S-88 module addition), he will have to return the unit to the dealer. But the hardware and upgrade itself are free. Charlie Just wait and see!
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Goofy		#159 Posted : 05 February 2007 22:46:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Hardware upgrade...? That means,you are forcement by to leaving CS to house Marklin to change inside of CS...! You can´t do that yourself...! Goofy [V]
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Maxi		#160 Posted : 05 February 2007 22:56:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 757 Location: Wawa, Ontario		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Charlie <br />Maxi, Latest I know is that if the customer desires the hardware upgrade (S-88 module addition), he will have to return the unit to the dealer. But the hardware and upgrade itself are free. Charlie Once the actual time comes we will know for sure, but if the upgrade process is free (aside from postage) then I don't mind sending mine in since it is just sitting in a box right now. I will continue to use my 6021 setup on my current layout. I did post in a different message that it is always good to have more than one control unit if the finances are there. I will never sell my current fleet of controllers just for this very scenario. Maxi
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Hemmerich		#161 Posted : 05 February 2007 23:14:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy You can´t do that yourself...! If you can't place a power plug into the outlet, then the answer would be yes. However, it seems that you even know ehow to turn a PC on, so this look quite good.
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David Dewar		#162 Posted : 06 February 2007 01:08:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,452 Location: Scotland		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy You can´t do that yourself...! If you can't place a power plug into the outlet, then the answer would be yes. However, it seems that you even know ehow to turn a PC on, so this look quite good.
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nevw		#163 Posted : 06 February 2007 02:02:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy You can´t do that yourself...! If you can't place a power plug into the outlet, then the answer would be yes. However, it seems that you even know ehow to turn a PC on, so this look quite good.
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kgsjoqvist		#164 Posted : 06 February 2007 11:40:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 754 Location: Täby		The good news is for all of us who waited with the purchase there will be a better product available soon. The s88-feedback and route control are essential for automation of the layout. Computer control enabled is also an important possibility. If the rumours are true about the "sniffer", this could be used for connecting old 6021 and accessories. I hope soo!
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steventrain		#165 Posted : 06 February 2007 19:12:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom
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frankie		#166 Posted : 07 February 2007 11:16:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 692 Location: Italy		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />Strange... [:0] What i now myself,it was 1.3.45 last time i did saw...! Is it possible that Marklin has already did upgrade CS??? Goofy Yes, because on yours it's possible to access with full rights with no password, hence with a good chance to screw up things and then they decided to fix this; it must be one of the very first.
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Bigdaddynz		#167 Posted : 07 February 2007 11:25:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Does anyone know if the update includes the ability to control the 7286 turntable, the 7051 crane, and the new generation cranes, with the appropriate decoders?
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frankie		#168 Posted : 07 February 2007 11:32:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 692 Location: Italy		With two Delta modules you can control the crane digitally right now: http://modeltrain.servehttp.com...yout.nsf/1/digital-crane
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Bigdaddynz		#169 Posted : 08 February 2007 10:03:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Frankie, Thanks for the link, unfortunately it does not work. I'm already aware that you can use delta decoders to control the crane - there is another post in this forum detailing how a member performed this conversion. However, I would still like to know if support for these devices is being included in the CS update.
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steventrain		#170 Posted : 08 February 2007 18:49:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		Useful link,thanks.
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bmcrae		#171 Posted : 08 February 2007 22:12:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 970 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC		Thanks for the link, it seems to be working now.
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HueyCE		#172 Posted : 09 February 2007 03:11:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		David- I asked Dr. Tom Catherall of Märklin USA when I last saw him about CS support for the turntable and he told me that he did not forsee that coming within the next six months. He told me that the TT decoder has different protocol than the two types currently supported by the CS. The crane has yet another protocol. Märklin is working on the issue however, and eventually you will see four types of decoders listed on CS screen where you choose the decoder type, the two currently displayed, the TT decoder, and the Crane decoder. Ira
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Bigdaddynz		#173 Posted : 09 February 2007 06:44:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Cheers, thanks for the info Ira. That clarifies the issue.
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xxup		#174 Posted : 09 February 2007 10:41:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,589 Location: Australia		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw <br />Posting to Germany 7- 10 Days $40 [:(] At Marklin 8 - 10 Weeks [:(][:(][:(!] Posting back to the Big Island in the South 10 Days. [V] CS Missing from Home about 10-14 Weeks. [:(][:(][V] Cry, [|)][|)] nev I think that you can add another 12 weeks (sea freight) for the return trip as I am sure that they are not about to rush it back to you... Let's hope that Charlie is right and it is really an Internet down load..
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frankie		#175 Posted : 09 February 2007 11:39:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 692 Location: Italy		It is definitely an Internet download: http://stummi.foren-city...direkt-von-maerklin.html The hardware will be an add on, underneath the CS there are two plastic covers, if you remove them there are two connectors similar to an IDE (hard disk) connector. The hardware upgrade will be connected here, but it's only needed if you want S88 and so forth.
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nevw		#176 Posted : 09 February 2007 11:49:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Thank heavens , I can now come off the anti-Depresants.[:p][^] Nev
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steventrain		#177 Posted : 09 February 2007 19:11:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by frankie <br />It is definitely an Internet download: http://stummi.foren-city...direkt-von-maerklin.html The hardware will be an add on, underneath the CS there are two plastic covers, if you remove them there are two connectors similar to an IDE (hard disk) connector. Thanks for the information.
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laalves		#178 Posted : 09 February 2007 22:20:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		Quite (a lot!) interesting is that they are also working in mini-c-sine upgrade to the existing loks, to correct the known existing problems. It seems Märklin is living up to its reputation and standards! Very good news indeed. It seems my current investment in Systems hardware is a good one. That makes me happy! Luís
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Bigdaddynz		#179 Posted : 09 February 2007 22:26:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves <br />It seems my current investment in Systems hardware is a good one. That makes me happy! Luís Makes me happy too. Now the CS will have the same functionality as the IB and Ecos, but with MFX. Like Nev, we can all breathe a big sigh of relief and consign this thread to the archives, and get on with playing trains.....
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Hemmerich		#180 Posted : 09 February 2007 23:20:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves <br />Quite (a lot!) interesting is that they are also working in mini-c-sine upgrade to the existing loks, to correct the known existing problems. It seems Märklin is living up to its reputation and standards! Very good news indeed. It seems my current investment in Systems hardware is a good one. That makes me happy! Luís Luis, I can fully confirm what Mr. Sigl wrote there; by the results of my conversation with Mr. Kern and other responsible Märklin managers. We concluded for example from our common experiences with the Porsche Lok and what needs to and will be done. As I mentioned already some time ago there exist several versions of the C-Sine driver pcb. The root causes have now been identified and thus it's just a matter of (short) time until the problem is finally resolved - remember, not all models experience these problems, not even equally (which is understandable if one knows their "hardware composition"). You can see now really how badly the former owners inhibited all the progress that we luckily see now again. Oh - btw - I have already ordered my E50!
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laalves		#181 Posted : 09 February 2007 23:41:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		Great again, Lutz! What is the root cause then? Is it just software/firmware related? BTW, what do you mean with that "previous owners" remark? Were they blocking product support funds?
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pa-pauls		#182 Posted : 10 February 2007 00:09:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Great news, Thank's again Lutz !
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john black		#183 Posted : 10 February 2007 00:21:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves <br />they are also working in mini-c-sine upgrade to the existing loks, to correct the known existing problems Now they finally admit their software trouble - service department must have gone bananas And though in the past some tried to persuade us "Everything's fine" [xx(] - I'm just glad we waited ...
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steventrain		#184 Posted : 10 February 2007 12:47:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom		That's great news,Thanks Lutz.
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Goofy		#185 Posted : 22 February 2007 20:36:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		My CS has arrived at last...! On saterday,i shall visit the hobbystore and get my CS...! [:p] I will report to you on the saterday,if CS has been uppgrade... Goofy
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Kifobefa		#186 Posted : 24 February 2007 10:02:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/02/2003(UTC) Posts: 29 Location: ,		Hello Goofy! Don't be disapointed, but according to Märklin the CS upgrade will be available in april/may. Your new CS will be the same CS as the old one. /Berndt
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Goofy		#187 Posted : 24 February 2007 15:57:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		The CS has not been uppgrade...! [V] But,it has been some changed anyway from the last CS i did had for about 2 years ago... Goods news anyway... This time CS has been better too,like that there is 2 lighting LED´s behind of CS for the "Ethernet" connection,one red and one green. My last time old CS,there was not in case. Hobbystore did said,that to uppgrade will been at April/May and it don´t cost anyway at all...!Which is good news... And besides,i don´t need to return back my CS to fix it. I see forward in about 2 months and see what it happens from Marklin byself... I did testing my steamlocomotiv nr:39010 and it works GREAT...! [:p] Next week it will been an hobbymarket in mine hometown,which we can meet several hobbystore under the same roof,so i shall asking if somebody nows anymore about CS...! Have a nice weekend...! Goofy
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jeehring		#188 Posted : 24 February 2007 17:55:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Thank you Goofy ! BTW, what is the version number of software?and version number of hardware ?
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Goofy		#189 Posted : 24 February 2007 20:53:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Hardware is 1.1 Software are 1.6.45 Goofy
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pmgsr		#190 Posted : 24 February 2007 22:07:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 200 Location: Lisbon, Lisbon		Hi there, Following some thoughts in this topic, does anyone know a serious answer to: why marklin will do a CS for AC (the actual) and another one for Trix? (DCC) Isn't this really weird? Just think the time consuming issues regarding development and prodution at the factory with two different products... (for the two *most* important products in a digital system) ... or ... they'll be almost the same inside? [;-)]
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Bigdaddynz		#191 Posted : 25 February 2007 02:57:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Pedro, I guess there will not be much difference between the Marklin and Trix CS's. I should imagine the differnces would be only in the software options that are enabled in each unit, but the base code would be fairly much the same. Goofy, your CS versions are the same as my 14 month old CS. Has your dealer been hiding this one out the back somewhere??
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Goofy		#192 Posted : 25 February 2007 16:15:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		The answers is:NO...! The CS has been arrived from Marklin for 1 weeks ago to hobbystore...! [:0] Goofy [V]
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meina222		#193 Posted : 15 March 2007 18:05:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 44 Location: ,		So after reading all this I still do not understand: To get an upgraded Marklin CS, for those of us who do not have any, should I wait and how long? And what US dealer can provide it? Also can someone give me a link in English explainig what S88 is and all the other central station stuff? Thank you.
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David Dewar		#194 Posted : 15 March 2007 21:28:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,452 Location: Scotland		The Marklin catalogue gives a good explanation of digital systems and also shows in detail how the various parts connect. As to when the update for the CS will be only Marklin and Lutz will know but it should be fairly soon. Cant help with dealers other than in Germany where I buy by mail for the better prices. I suggest you wait at present although if you really want to go ahead now then you will be able to update the present CS. David
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HvR		#195 Posted : 16 March 2007 13:36:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 161 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by meina222 To get an upgraded Marklin CS, for those of us who do not have any, should I wait and how long? Thank you. Could be as quickly as NOW. One of our dutch dealers reported that he has received a new batch of CS's earlier this week straight from Goeppingen that have the sniffer/s88 ports installed as well as the new version of software. Regards, Hans
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Goofy		#196 Posted : 17 March 2007 18:28:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		REALLY...??? But,why then in case by selling old CS to me like to other customer too...? Goofy
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clapcott		#197 Posted : 17 March 2007 22:42:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,448 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by HvR Could be as quickly as NOW. One of our dutch dealers reported that he has received a new batch of CS's earlier this week straight from Goeppingen that have the sniffer/s88 ports installed as well as the new version of software. Regards, Hans Hans, pictures please! and scans of users manual (english section) And/Or - Version level of software/hardware - Feature list Very interested in any of those "loose sheets" of instructions that highlight things not to do (bombs, thumbs-down and crosses) and prerequisites.
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Bigdaddynz		#198 Posted : 17 March 2007 22:49:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Goofy, as I said before, they sold you whatever item they had in stock, they were probably glad to get rid of it. Now you will have to wait like the rest of us. Peter, "Oh Ye of little faith"
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clapcott		#199 Posted : 18 March 2007 12:08:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,448 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Faith has nothing to do with it. I have zero faith, hence my request for some tangible evidence rather than rummour and speculation that just take up time and bandwidth.
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jeehring		#200 Posted : 18 March 2007 19:08:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />REALLY...??? But,why then in case by selling old CS to me like to other customer too...? Goofy Time goes by ... It's like geographical frontiers : one step beyond and the law is changing... [B)] Ok, I'm leaving...[xx(]
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