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Hallo,
ich komme gerade vom Expertenvortrag in Wien, die "Central Station", Referent Klaus Kern, Bereichsleiter Fertigung & Entwicklung und Werkzeugbau Gebr. Märklin & Cie GmbH.

Grundaussage: an der Weiterentwicklung der Software der CS wird emsig gearbeitet und keine komplette Neuentwicklung. Frühestes Update erwartet er realistisch für Mitte 2007, eher nach dem Sommer. Es sollen aber dann alle endgültigen Features wie S88, Fahrstraßen usw. bereits enthalten sein. Die CS soll damit einfache Computersteuerungsfunktionen übernehmen können. Es wird also keine tröpfchenweise Updatekette mit zig Bugfixes geben.
Auch der mfx-Booster wird erst zu diesem Zeitpunkt erscheinen.
Der alte Booster ist aber ohne mfx-Funktionserweiterung voll funktionsfähig und kann bereits jetzt mit der CS verwendet werden.

Und jetzt kommt's:
Die PC-Schnittstelle wird zu diesem Zeitpunkt für die Entwickler von Steuerungssoftware geöffnet werden. Märklin kann es sich nicht leisten, dass langjährige Kunden ihre bereis getätigten hohen Investitionen in Steuersoftware nicht weiter nutzen können. Der genaue Ablauf ist noch nicht festgestellt und wird im nächsten Jahr mit den Softwareherstellern ausverhandelt werden. Z.B. mein Lieblingsprogramm Freiwald's Traincontroller ist da sicher dabei.
Der etwas unglückliche Ausspruch über "PC in den Moba-Keller schleppen" war ihm bereits bekannt.

Der S88 Bus wird über Adapter am CAN-Bus betrieben und kann somit damit dezentral angelegt werden. Da der CAN-Bus eine von Märklin bereits getestete 100m Mindestreichweite hat, sollten damit Entfernungen auf einer Anlage keine Rolle mehr spielen.
Zu einem späteren Zeitpunt ist auch eine Belegtmeldung mit Lokerkennung wie z.B. bei SX geplant, vorrangig sollen aber jetzt bis zum Sommer 2007 alle bestehenden Sachen anschlussfähig werden. Alle alten Zentralen, egal wie alt, sollen mit Adapter am CAN-Bus zumindest als Fahrregler oder Memory usw. weiterverwendbar sein (Investitionsschutz).

Zwischen dem früheren Entwickler von systems und Märklin hat es nicht richtig funktioniert. Daher hat Märklin daraus die Konsequenzen gezogen.
Die 3 Buchstaben sind ihm aber nicht über die Lippen gekommen.
Auf die Frage, ob der relative Stillstand bei systems mit dem Verkauf und den finanzellen Schwiedigkeiten im Zusammenhang steht, gab es nur eine ausweichende Antwort, war aber irgendwie schon durchzuhören.

Das ist also ein völlig neuer Wind aus Göppingen und mfx lebt doch.
Was diesen Meinungswandel ausgelöst hat, blieb mir zwar verborgen. Auf alles gibt es nicht immer eine Antwort.
Grüße,
Alfred

[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar
<br /> Only when all the new bits and pieces are available will you know if it is for you or not.

David

[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bob R
<br />My suggestion to Marklin is that they find some 11 year old kids with nose rings and tatoo's and pay them to update and upgrade the CS and get everything working. (like it should) I can only imagine if they provide a slip for their school "excuse" for not being there is that the whole thing will be up and running in 72 hrs and every conceivable piece of Marklin stuff will be operable with the CS as it should be! All they have to do is provide the pizza and choclate milk! Well it is only a suggestion :)

Bob R

[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hxmiesa
Eh! I find this HIGHLY OFFENSIVE!!!

Being a programming engineer, working with PLC´s and robotics and scadas for the last 15 years, in several countries (I´ve even been to Bangladesh! ydrk!) I find the above statement not only impractical, but a personal insult toward my professional carreer!

:-) :-) :-)

A programming project always takes ALL of the alotted amount of time, and THEN some before finishing.
REAL professional projects are deliberatly burried in bureaucracy by at least TWO independant engineering consultants companys -each with it´s own documentation standard and inability to speak nor understand the other foreign companys language- in such a way that cost triples, because of the time spend (wasted) (mis)-understanding the other parties.
At the end, when the UMPTIENTH deadline has been crossed without significant progress on any side, the programmer and the machine supplier does what they always have done -which is basically making the machine work for the client- doing as they have always done, for the last century.

Then the hord of highly educated advisory diploma engineers goes on to a new and prosperous project, -only in the mean time they hire about 25% more staff, in order to try to meet those deadlines the next time!

The scrupolous contracting of pimpel-faced youngsters is simply impossible because of the highly educated advisory diploma engineers demand for everything being certified and documented, adheering to every known (and unknown) standard, especially their own new and better one!
Without standards and pre-approvednes NOTHING can never work, EVER!
And if it could, what would all these highly educated advisory diploma engineers do, if it suddenly came out that you only need 3 persons to make a system work??? They´d be out of a job!!!

&lt;/rant off&gt;

[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hxmiesa
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Hi Henrik,

I am glad you found a laugh in this! I understand what you are saying. Is exactly what Marklin is doing I suppose?

However we cannot under estimate the bored kids that are very computer literate these days. For example my friends son, when he was only 12 he and his friend were surfing the web and found a place that had virus's you could download and send to peolple. Now these were just done as a joke. To make a long story short. Ryan and his buddy tweeked the virus and sent it out. He even sent one to his dear old Dad. Well it got by Norton and re-formatted his hard drive. So just for a little fun he and his buddy sent it out to some others and before you know it, who is knocking at his Fathers door at 6 AM in the morning? The FBI! Well since they were only 12 they got off but neverless were grounded for about a year. However his Dad was pissed!

Then at 14 while not doing quite so well in school in some subjects, Ryan and his buddies hacked the schools computer, got into the grading area and changed all of their grades as well as a few females that they liked. Well they thought they had got away with it and probably would have if they had only done it once, but they started to change grades for other students for a little $$. Neverless they got caught and as punishment they had to repeat the 9th grade!

Well both are out of University now, one works for the State of Texas down in Austin in the States Computer Dept. The other one lives in Oregon and works in the States Computer Dept that operates the States Prison Systems. Glad to see that both of the little vagrants have put there self taught computer skills to good use!

As well it reminds of while back while Microsoft hired people that had been hacking into Microsoft and put them to work in their own Computer Depts!

So we should not under estimate the bored kids of today. Several have even hacked US Military coputers with limited success. So maybe when Thanksgiving rolls around over here I will get my friends son to see what he can do with my CS. I would like a Rail Zeppelin Icon for my Rail Zeppelin instead of a generic Loc.

Bob

[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Vardex
<br />Let's see how honeywell does it. It seems they now have gotten the order to write decent software for the CS.

Bart

[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
<br />What is an "honeywell"...?

Goofy

[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring
<br />If true , it's a good news !
Honeywell is a famous company and has strong reputation in digital systems and automated controls, as said Huey. ( robotic ?)

[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
Now about Marklins CS:
It`s pitty to shame that Marklin don`t allowed by producing MM/DCC in the same box...! [:(]

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Now about Marklins CS:
It`s pitty to shame that Marklin don`t allowed by producing MM/DCC in the same box...! [:(]

I like this much more better,because it`s allowed customer to have more fun by playing and driving locomotivs in the 2 rail or and 3 rail!!!

You can also using 3 rail in the DCC,but you must using DCC decoder in the Marklins locomotivs...! [:o)]

However,Marklin must wake up!!! [:(!]

I welcome Marklin/Trix CS instead,if this will become...???

[}:)] Goofy [}:)]

[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by DasBert33
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I look forward to your findings. Also if there is any news on "the quest to enable mfx", please post .

Bert