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Offline 2fingers  
#1 Posted : 20 October 2019 23:36:19(UTC)
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Any guesses what we can expect next year?
Offline xxup  
#2 Posted : 21 October 2019 00:37:24(UTC)
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Bit early aren't we?
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Offline cookee_nz  
#3 Posted : 21 October 2019 04:43:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
Bit early aren't we?


M. will be thinking about it so I guess we can speculate Cool
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Offline river6109  
#4 Posted : 21 October 2019 07:18:54(UTC)
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Offline Legless  
#5 Posted : 21 October 2019 08:52:14(UTC)
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What about a fat controller?
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#6 Posted : 21 October 2019 10:53:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
Bit early aren't we?


M. will be thinking about it so I guess we can speculate Cool


Hi Steve,
And M are already designing and planning production.
There are a few people who know, but are sworn to secrecy of course.

But I have no idea what the locomotive might be.

Kimball
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Offline 2fingers  
#7 Posted : 21 October 2019 11:14:24(UTC)
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Isn’t it announced in November?
Offline steventrain  
#8 Posted : 21 October 2019 15:51:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 2fingers Go to Quoted Post
Isn’t it announced in November?


End of November or Early Decemeber.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#9 Posted : 21 October 2019 16:57:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 2fingers Go to Quoted Post
Isn’t it announced in November?


When the IMA is in Cologne it is announced there, and that is in November. When the IMA is on the alternate years to Cologne it is announced at another show that occurs in November. I don't have the calendar handy, put I think it is possibly Leipzig.

Offline AntoinePrt  
#10 Posted : 23 October 2019 07:34:00(UTC)
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The Big Boy 4014 maybe? Drool

In Märklin magazin (05/2019), page 5 in the French version, there is a short paragraph on the 4014 Big Boy. And they say, at the very end, « more information on the Big Boy in the next magazin »

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Offline steventrain  
#11 Posted : 23 October 2019 11:45:04(UTC)
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141R french steam class but ?.
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Offline AntoinePrt  
#12 Posted : 24 October 2019 08:30:01(UTC)
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The 141R1244 would be a must-have Love
Offline cookee_nz  
#13 Posted : 24 October 2019 10:33:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
Bit early aren't we?


M. will be thinking about it so I guess we can speculate Cool


Hi Steve,
And M are already designing and planning production.
There are a few people who know, but are sworn to secrecy of course.

But I have no idea what the locomotive might be.

Kimball


Ah that will be what they showed us during our exclusive little get-together at the IMA, but yes we were sworn to secrecy Cool BigGrin

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Offline bph  
#14 Posted : 24 October 2019 11:13:10(UTC)
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A BR44, 1315 ?, or at least released together with the opening of the new Märklineum next year.

https://www.maerklin.de/uploads/pics/wl_4.jpg

Offline Goofy  
#15 Posted : 24 October 2019 11:30:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 2fingers Go to Quoted Post
Any guesses what we can expect next year?


I think Märklin will present electric locomotive E 91 era 3 DB with functional pantograph.
And this time with power cap?
DCC means Digital Command Control.

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#16 Posted : 24 October 2019 11:32:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
Ah that will be what they showed us during our exclusive little get-together at the IMA, but yes we were sworn to secrecy Cool BigGrin


We were?? Did Herr Müller say something before he disappeared!?

I must have been asleep for that bit!

There was a poll done by Marklin of Insider members a few years ago that voted on Insider locos that members would like to see produced. There were three or four from the list that were produced, but a few including the BR06 that wern't.

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#17 Posted : 24 October 2019 11:54:26(UTC)
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Poll was in 2011 and was discussed in this thread

https://www.marklin-user...aspx?g=posts&t=16204

From memory we've had

14.- ET403 "Donald Duck" Germany

12.- V320, Germany

8.- C 5/6 Elephant Suitzerland

7.- Serie 241 A 65 France

6.- S 2/6 Germany

2.- S 3/6 Bavaria German

Maybe the 2020 Insider locos will be one or two of the other choices.
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Offline vilithejou  
#18 Posted : 15 November 2019 04:34:24(UTC)
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Mail from Märklin, save the date

27 november 2018, 18:00 (Göppingen tim GMT :-) )
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#19 Posted : 15 November 2019 12:05:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
Mail from Märklin, save the date

27 november 2018, 18:00 (Göppingen tim GMT :-) )
Streaming Youtube


Hallo Joan,
You mean 28 November, Brisbane time 03:00, NZ time 05:00.

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Offline kimballthurlow  
#20 Posted : 15 November 2019 12:08:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
..
Hi Steve,
And M are already designing and planning production.
There are a few people who know, but are sworn to secrecy of course.
..
Kimball


Ah that will be what they showed us during our exclusive little get-together at the IMA, but yes we were sworn to secrecy Cool BigGrin
..
New_Zealand1.jpeg

LOL
So the first samples were in the dark grey box ....

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Offline steventrain  
#21 Posted : 27 November 2019 18:17:43(UTC)
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2020 Insider - train pack SBB RAm TEE.

Edited by moderator 28 November 2019 08:50:35(UTC)  | Reason: Added Youtube tags to video

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Offline AntoinePrt  
#22 Posted : 27 November 2019 18:30:19(UTC)
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So upset ... I wanted a Big Boy.
Offline mbarreto  
#23 Posted : 27 November 2019 19:16:06(UTC)
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I like it! As a matter of fact it is exactly what I wanted.
Just hope it is in 1:87, although I think it will be, and also let's see the price...

Mostly Märklin H0.


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Online twmarklinfan  
#24 Posted : 27 November 2019 19:20:59(UTC)
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I am also a fan, but I expect it will have a BIG price
Offline TEEWolf  
#25 Posted : 27 November 2019 19:59:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: twmarklinfan Go to Quoted Post
I am also a fan, but I expect it will have a BIG price


LOL Correct, guess about 800 € for only 4 coaches. Well, but in 2020 my major budget is already reserved for the ICE 4.Smile
CS 3 is a controlling station from Märklin - not a central station.
Offline danmarklinman  
#26 Posted : 27 November 2019 20:35:16(UTC)
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I quite fancy this. But I bet it will be a minimum radius of 42 if it’s 1/87? , and that would put me off. But 1/93.5 might and 36 radius. To be be fare the wife might not like anything of itLOL LOL Flapper
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Offline ktsolias  
#27 Posted : 27 November 2019 20:42:40(UTC)
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The price if is the TEE will be about 900!!!!
Offline danmarklinman  
#28 Posted : 27 November 2019 20:45:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ktsolias Go to Quoted Post
The price of the TEE will be about 900!!!


Maybe not thenLOL Crying
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#29 Posted : 27 November 2019 20:47:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post
So upset ... I wanted a Big Boy.


There's been about 23 Big Boys already.....!OhMyGod
Offline RayF  
#30 Posted : 27 November 2019 20:54:16(UTC)
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Didn't they do the RAm already? I've seen a few versions of it around but maybe not as an Insider.

I'm not terribly lucky with railcar sets. I usually have problems with the inter-coach couplings at some point. My old RAm (Original 3071/4071 set) runs nicely but it is a nightmare to couple the cars together, and of course I am forever glueing the windows back in! BigGrin
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Offline jvuye  
#31 Posted : 27 November 2019 21:26:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: twmarklinfan Go to Quoted Post
I am also a fan, but I expect it will have a BIG price


LOL Correct, guess about 800 € for only 4 coaches. Well, but in 2020 my major budget is already reserved for the ICE 4.Smile


Yes but imagine! heavy stuff, all metall!!!Laugh Laugh

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Offline mbarreto  
#32 Posted : 27 November 2019 21:29:06(UTC)
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The real RAm measures 98,06m which in 1:87 is 112,7 cm.
I don't know if the heads have the same length of the cars, bu tif they have, each will measure 28,2cm in 1:87 scale. If this is the case I guess the model will be in 1:87.
Mostly Märklin H0.


Offline TEEWolf  
#33 Posted : 27 November 2019 22:09:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post
So upset ... I wanted a Big Boy.


There's been about 23 Big Boys already.....!OhMyGod


Perhaps, but no 4014 Big Boy which is the only steaming one in real life! This makes the difference to all others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_4014

I want it too. Not the 127th TEE.Laugh
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Offline TEEWolf  
#34 Posted : 27 November 2019 22:18:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ktsolias Go to Quoted Post
The price if is the TEE will be about 900!!!!


Yes you are right. I was too low!Laugh The train shall have a lenght of about 113 cm and shall be usable on R1 with restraints. Means problems with signals, catenary masts, turnouts, etc.BigGrin. Weight for all 4 cars together will be 2 kg - well not bad.
CS 3 is a controlling station from Märklin - not a central station.
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Offline ktsolias  
#35 Posted : 27 November 2019 23:11:16(UTC)
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Is 39706
TEE 501
039706_1_schrag-500x500.jpg
039706_3_mot-500x500.jpg
039706_7_set-500x500.jpg

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#36 Posted : 27 November 2019 23:43:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Didn't they do the RAm already?


Like Wolfgang, I have ordered the ICE4. I also already have the 39700 TEE RAm, which was converted to sound using a Loksound 3.5 by Dion from Toottoot for the previous owner (Dion also removed the C-Sine motor and replaced that with DCM components).

Previous thread on the 39700 - https://www.marklin-user...sts/t14124-Marklin-39700

Nine Hundred or a Thousand euros seems to be a bit much, but then I wasn't going to buy the anniversary Rheingold set until I saw pictures of it.....

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Offline kimballthurlow  
#37 Posted : 28 November 2019 02:35:16(UTC)
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For anyone who might be interested, here is a small history.
With acknowledgement for the text to TRAINZ.
TRAINZ TEE

The primary function of the Dutch/Swiss TEE was providing the once daily Edelweiß service, each way between Amsterdam & Zurich via Basle, Luxembourg and Brussells. These trainsets were also seen sharing the Amsterdam to Paris 'Etoile du Nord' and 'Ile de France' services; the 'Brabant' between Brussels and Paris; the Paris and Lausanne 'l'Arbarete'; and the 'Bavaria' between marklin-users.netch & Zurich.

At a time when electrification of the Edelweiß route was incomplete, and the existing sections were of different current systems it was considered there was no alternative to diesel power for this TEE.

Even if the electrification could have been completed, developements in multi-system technology hadn't sufficiently evolved to traverse the 4 different current systems involved; 1500V DC in the Netherlands; 3000V DC in Belgium; 15000V 16 2/3 Hz AC in Switzerland, and 25000V 50Hz AC in France.

In 1957, 5 train sets were delivered, DE-1001 to DE-1003 to Nederlandse Spoorwagen (NS) and RAm 501 & 502 to Schweizerische Bundesbahnen (SBB).

The power cars were built by Werkspoor in the Netherlands; 2 1000 HP 16 cylinder diesels powered a generator that delivered current to four traction motors. A further 350 HP engine provided on-board power supply; and at that time, adoption of a 1BO-BO1 wheel arrangement was necessary to achieve a suitable axle load of 20t.

Coach stock was Swiss built, Schweizerishe Industrie-Gesellschaft drew on experience gained from the construction of the 'Leichtstahl-I' series coaches. The consist included a passenger car with 9 compartments each seating 6, a restaurant car and an open coach fitted with remote cab and streamlining to match the power car.

The inclusion of a duplicate cab eliminated the necessity for time consuming shunt manouevres; the consists were semi-permanently coupled and treated as self propelled vehicles.

With the spread of electrification in Europe and advances in multi system electric train technology; with the exception of 501, which had been destroyed in an accident, the DE TEE1/RAm trainsets were withdrawn in 1974. The Ontario Northland Railway (Canada) took possession of all the remaining vehicles in 1976, for use on the 'Northlander' Timmins-Toronto express service.
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Offline fkowal  
#38 Posted : 28 November 2019 02:58:21(UTC)
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The German language YouTube
video states it is exactly 1:87.
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Offline jlopez  
#39 Posted : 28 November 2019 05:24:37(UTC)
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I hope it comes with passengers inside already. I like the trend that Marklin is going with on that aspect!
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Offline mike c  
#40 Posted : 28 November 2019 06:48:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
For anyone who might be interested, here is a small history.
With acknowledgement for the text to TRAINZ.
TRAINZ TEE

The primary function of the Dutch/Swiss TEE was providing the once daily Edelweiß service, each way between Amsterdam & Zurich via Basle, Luxembourg and Brussels. These trainsets were also seen sharing the Amsterdam to Paris 'Etoile du Nord'; the 'Oiseau Bleu' between Brussels and Paris and later the Zurich-Paris-Zurich 'Arbalete'; and the Zurich-Munich-Zurich 'Bavaria'.

At a time when electrification of the Edelweiß route was incomplete, and the existing sections were of different current systems it was considered there was no alternative to diesel power for this TEE.

Even if the electrification could have been completed, developments in multi-system technology hadn't sufficiently evolved to traverse the 4 different current systems involved; 1500V DC in the Netherlands; 3000V DC in Belgium; 15000V 16 2/3 Hz AC in Switzerland, and 25000V 50Hz AC in France.

In 1957, 5 train sets were delivered, DE-1001 to DE-1003 to Nederlandse Spoorwagen (NS) and RAm 501 & 502 to Schweizerische Bundesbahnen (SBB).

The power cars were built by Werkspoor in the Netherlands; 2 Sulzer 1000 HP 16 cylinder diesels powered a generator that delivered current to four traction motors. A further 350 HP engine provided on-board power supply; and at that time, adoption of a A1A-A1A wheel arrangement was necessary to achieve a suitable axle load of 20t.

Coach stock was Swiss built, Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft (SIG) drew on experience gained from the construction of the 'Leichtstahl' (lightsteel) series coaches. The consist included a passenger car with 9 compartments each seating 6, a restaurant car and an open coach fitted with remote cab and streamlining to match the power car.

The inclusion of a pilot coach eliminated the necessity for time consuming shunting manouevres at end stations; the consists were semi-permanently coupled and treated as self propelled vehicles.

With the spread of electrification in Europe and advances in multi system electric train technology; with the exception of 501, which had been destroyed in an accident, the DE TEE1/RAm trainsets were withdrawn in 1974. The Ontario Northland Railway (Canada) took possession of all the remaining vehicles in 1976, for use on the 'Northlander' Timmins-Toronto express service.


I took the liberty of making some minor corrections to the text. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org...FFS_RAm_TEE_I_and_NS_DE4

Following the 1971 accident in Aitrang, the TEE Bavaria was operated using a SBB Re 4/4 or DB BR210 and TEE coaches and there was no discussion of resuming service with the RAm TEE sets. By 1974, the route to Amsterdam was largely electrified and the RAe TEE (Gottardo) trainsets were introduced on the Edelweiss route, as they had been replaced on the Cisalpin by locomotive pulled Mistral 69 coaches.

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Offline mike c  
#41 Posted : 28 November 2019 06:59:48(UTC)
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I would hope that Maerklin would render the RAm in the same scale as the earlier RAe Gottardo, so that the two trainsets would look "normal" alongside each other.
The mix of models in 1/87, 1/93.5 leaves something to be desired. The video seems to suggest that this might be in exact scale, like the Lightsteel coaches.
I do think that the connections (gangways) look better on this new model than on the Trix 22131 from a few years back.

Regards

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#42 Posted : 28 November 2019 08:58:56(UTC)
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This new RAm seems a better model than 39700, which is largely based on 3471 so has plastic bodies with couplers that aren't much different from those on the 3071.

The new model is all metal, seems to be closer to 1:87 scale and looks more realistic as a complete set.

From what I could understand from the garbled Youtube English subtitles on the video, the first 500 orders of the RAm railcar will come with a book about the railcar which is worth 54 euros.
Offline Goofy  
#43 Posted : 28 November 2019 09:22:09(UTC)
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The prices of the model seems normal.
However i am disapointed at Märklin present another swiss model as insider model again.
This model is nothing for me anyway.
DCC means Digital Command Control.

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#44 Posted : 28 November 2019 09:44:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
However i am disapointed at Märklin present another swiss model as insider model again.


Apart from the Crocodile and the Elephant, what was the last Swiss Insider model??

Offline vilithejou  
#45 Posted : 28 November 2019 10:01:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
However i am disapointed at Märklin present another swiss model as insider model again.


Apart from the Crocodile and the Elephant, what was the last Swiss Insider model??



Elephant? Insider Modell?

The question is.. how many non-german Insider modells are?

1994 X995 Amtrak 83341
1994 BB2220 SNCF 83320
1996 "Krokodil" 30159/36159
2000 Big Boy UP 37990
2004 Big Boy UP 37991
2018 Rangier Korkodile 39567
2020 RAm TEE (not item number yet)

Only 7 items in 27 years... not much!
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#46 Posted : 28 November 2019 10:08:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
.....Korkodile.....


Korkodile, that's a new one! Still, if you mean the Krokodile, then I guess it was quite corker! (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corker meaning #2)

OK, so no Elephant as an Insider model - my mistake, but there have been Elephants none the less.

Point being Goofy is on thin ice complaining about too many Swiss Insider models, as your list points out.
Offline vilithejou  
#47 Posted : 28 November 2019 11:03:44(UTC)
vilithejou


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We have item number 39706

You can see itin the Insider intranet and profil
Joan Vilarrúbia
vilithejou@yahoo.es
Fan of Märklín, Kroko lover
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Offline steventrain  
#48 Posted : 28 November 2019 11:32:06(UTC)
steventrain

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Price 899 EUR.

Not interested as price is too expensive. I have to pass.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline GlennM  
#49 Posted : 28 November 2019 12:05:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post
So upset ... I wanted a Big Boy.


There's been about 23 Big Boys already.....!OhMyGod


Perhaps, but no 4014 Big Boy which is the only steaming one in real life! This makes the difference to all others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_4014

I want it too. Not the 127th TEE.Laugh



If you want the 4014 then buy Märklin item 37995 - Union Pacific Railroad (UP) class 4000 "Big Boy" heavy freight locomotive, road number 4014 with authentic weathering.
Don't look back, your not heading that way.
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Offline pab  
#50 Posted : 28 November 2019 14:45:10(UTC)
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Looks tempting, but it's not a steamer, so I will pass. Maybe the second insider model for 2020 is a steamer like the last years.
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