Joined: 27/07/2008(UTC) Posts: 2 Location: Hobbs, NM
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Has anyone converted from Marklin couplers to Kadee knuckle couplers? If anyone has, how did you do it and what problems did you encounter/solve? |
E C Wenzinger |
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Joined: 25/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,106 Location: Guelph, Ontario
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Hi and Welcome,
As long as your Cars have NEM Coupler Pockets you can use Kadee Couplers, Kadee # 17/18/19. You may have to adjust the Horn a bit so it will not touch the Centre pukos on Turnouts etc.
Trix American Boxcars use Kadee compatible Couplers (they are the same as Marklin).
Martin |
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Joined: 06/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 655
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Welcome to the Forum,
Martin is correct. As long as you have NEM pockets you can easily convert to Kadee couplers. Since all my stock is European I do not care to use them. If you are modeling US stock then I can see using them otherwise why bother. I prefer the standard couplings with my older locomotives and rolling stock. |
Regards (a Scot in Wisconsin),
Maurice [ETE, TTRCA, IG-TRIX Express, Maerklin-Insider & TRIX Profi-Club]
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Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,
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Hi,
Some people say that Kadee's are very sensitive to vertical irregularities in tracks. It would be the best to test a set first.
Cem.
EDIT: "horizontal" replaced with "vertical" |
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Joined: 06/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,383 Location: Darmstadt,
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Hi, and wellcome to the forum,
I have converted my M* US freight cars and locos to Kadee couplers (mostly #18) as well, and I am very satisfied with it. Nevertheless, there are a few points that one should consider:
- As Cem has already said: Kadee couplers are more sensitive to *vertical* irregularities on the track. Differently from M*'s short couplers, the kadee couplers are not vertically guided. Make shure that the tracks are mounted smoothly, and that there are no kinks at the transitions between the tracks.
- The NEM pocket of M* cars usually can move sidewards. That's usefull for M* short couplers (as they form a stiff connection between the cars), but it highly unstable with Kadee couplers, especially on long and heavy trains. I have therefore fastened the NEM pockets in the center position before I have insertes the Kadee couplers. (Easy on most cars: press the tip of a tooth pick in the NEM pocket mechanism and it is blocked).
- I have been told that Kadee couplers and buffers don't like each other. Might hang in narrow curves. Fortunately there are no buffers on US stuff. If you want to convert european stuff to Kadee, however, this might be an issue.
Regards
Hans Martin
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Joined: 26/03/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,423 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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Hi Edward, welcome to the forum!
I have a small US fleet (37492 GG-1 Tuscan red, 45650+45705 PRR wagons, and a set of Walther's PRR Heavyweights) I think I'll change them all to Kadee, simply because the look more American.
I agree with other commenters that they appear on a not-very-exhaustive test to be a bit less secure than the Märklin couplers. Of course, the Walther's wagons won't accept NEM pockets at all...[:(]
My main concern is that the Märklin uncoupler track and my Märklin 37652 BR 362 with Telex couplers won't be useful for shunting.
Dunno...haven't decided yet...
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Cheers, Damon |
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Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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Hi Edward, Welcome to the forum. Before you make the switch to Kadee, check out the Fleischmann Profi couplings. Similar knuckle-type coupling and much better practically and visually than Kadees. The part number is 38 6515 and they come in packs of 50. I have converted some of my rolling stock (both freight and passenger)and I am very pleased with the results.
Regards Tony |
Lord Macca New Zealand branch of Clan Donald.
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Joined: 12/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,908 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Welcome to the forum! I've also tried a few cars with Kadee. On c-track they usually work. I've encountered problems (de-rails...) on k-track turnouts though. |
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Joined: 06/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,345 Location: ,
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You need to get the Kadee height gauge. They work very well indeed but need to be properly set up, and the height is one crucial part of that. Don't clip or bend the trip pins until you have checked this - I have never had a problem with them striking the rails so long as the coupler head is at the right height.
Kadee make a scale-size knuckle coupler too - you cannot beat these in terms of appearance, although the standard #5 is easier to work with and still looks very acceptable on a model. |
Matt from Wales.
When you pay Range Rover prices, don't accept Lada quality |
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