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Originally Posted by: bph  There seems to be a gold-plated UP Big Boy coming, locomotive No 4000, and article number 39400.
Could it perhaps be a special celebration model? or eg for those who have been an insider member for 30 years?
currently no further information or if it's partially or fully gold-plated......... Hello, Where did you get the information from? A.
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR ...... Edelweis coach set ....Marklin's own tooling I might wait and see how they turn out before committing to a purchase.
Thanks all! Yes I had a similar thought - they are too exotic to jump into. Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Originally Posted by: bph There seems to be a gold-plated UP Big Boy coming, locomotive No 4000, and article number 39400.
Could it perhaps be a special celebration model? or eg for those who have been an insider member for 30 years?
currently no further information or if it's partially or fully gold-plated......... Hello, Where did you get the information from? A.
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Originally Posted by: bph Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Originally Posted by: bph There seems to be a gold-plated UP Big Boy coming, locomotive No 4000, and article number 39400.
Could it perhaps be a special celebration model? or eg for those who have been an insider member for 30 years?
currently no further information or if it's partially or fully gold-plated......... Hello, Where did you get the information from? A. Thanks!!! I've found it. This helped me budget even better. |
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I also find the new Swedish coach set 43787, quite interesting. I think I will go nicely with an NSB Di3 in era 5 livery, eg the Märklin 37692 (Limited edition) in the Norwegian - Swedish cross border service, a Norwegian Di3 was often used with Swedish coaches. Eg like this:  and the new NSB freight car set 46067 can also be used in passenger trains. E.g. together with 29660 or similar. 
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Originally Posted by: bph I also find the new Swedish coach set 43787, quite interesting. I think I will go nicely with an NSB Di3 in era 5 livery, eg the Märklin 37692 (Limited edition) in the Norwegian - Swedish cross border service, a Norwegian Di3 was often used with Swedish coaches. ... and the new NSB freight car set 46067 can also be used in passenger trains. E.g. together with 29660 or similar. ... I agree they look very interesting although it is a pitty the NOHABS used those grids in the front and back windows. (just my opinion) Regards, Miguel |
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto
I agree they look very interesting although it is a pitty the NOHABS used those grids in the front and back windows. (just my opinion)
Regards,
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they didn't always use grids, and I believe they were gradually removed in the 80's and 90's when the locomotives were refitted with armoured windows. I see your point, and I think they are not that bad on the prototype, but when modelled they are often a bit out of proportion (eg on the new 39686, but that is hopefully due to a preproduction model was used in the photo.....). (other Norwegian locomotives also had grids). one example without grids: (it might be, that this picture was taken when the locomotive was new, and therefore not yet fitted with grids) 
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Wiking February 2023 NISchuco 2023 NI katalogI noticed that there were no Schuco MHI items in the Marklin NI brochure, which is a change from the last 5 years or so. There is also no MHI items in the Schuco catalogue. Seems they have given up on the idea of MHI items.
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Where would I find pdfs of Wiking or Schuco new releases from previous years? |
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Schuco 2023 NI katalogI noticed that there were no Schuco MHI items in the Marklin NI brochure, which is a change from the last 5 years or so. There is also no MHI items in the Schuco catalogue. Seems they have given up on the idea of MHI items. I think the clue is on the last page of this new catalogue. It seems Schuco is no longer part of Simba-Dickie. Hans gave me a cryptic hint about this a few weeks ago, but I didn’t follow up on it to ask him what he meant. I see there are quite a few resin models in this new catalogue too, which I don’t remember as being a Schuco thing. I think if Schuco is now Chinese owned, that is the end of a very old long-established German toy maker, and that’s a shame. Nigel |
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Originally Posted by: Nigel Packer Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Schuco 2023 NI katalogI noticed that there were no Schuco MHI items in the Marklin NI brochure, which is a change from the last 5 years or so. There is also no MHI items in the Schuco catalogue. Seems they have given up on the idea of MHI items. I think the clue is on the last page of this new catalogue. It seems Schuco is no longer part of Simba-Dickie. Hans gave me a cryptic hint about this a few weeks ago, but I didn’t follow up on it to ask him what he meant. I see there are quite a few resin models in this new catalogue too, which I don’t remember as being a Schuco thing. I think if Schuco is now Chinese owned, that is the end of a very old long-established German toy maker, and that’s a shame. Nigel Ah, OK, I noticed the last page, but just thought it is a case of opening a distributor in HK. I guess competing with Herpa, Wiking and Brekina has driven them under, although I am surprised one of those three didn't take it up and absorb it. As you say, another heading to be a Fallen Flag, as the Americans would say.
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Originally Posted by: Minok Hmmm. Not sure about that. They also list Tamiya as one of their brands, but that’s still Japanese. Minimax Import and Export Co are based in Macau, and they also seem to own Spark, a manufacturer of high-end car models, largely made of resin. I own one Spark model, which is a 1/18 model of my Porsche 911, in superb detail, with exact original Porsche paint colour. Perhaps we’ll find out more about Schuco in due course. Something has definitely changed! Nigel |
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Schuco was Japanese before Dickie bought it. Read the history/about on the website. I think maybe it was Jarda toys?
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Schuco was Japanese before Dickie bought it. Read the history/about on the website. I cannot find that information. I found English DCM and German Gama as interim owners. |
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Originally Posted by: Mark5 Where would I find pdfs of Wiking or Schuco new releases from previous years? Wiking have them on there web sight 👍 |
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Originally Posted by: Nigel Packer Originally Posted by: Minok Hmmm. Not sure about that. They also list Tamiya as one of their brands, but that’s still Japanese. Minimax Import and Export Co are based in Macau, and they also seem to own Spark, a manufacturer of high-end car models, largely made of resin. I own one Spark model, which is a 1/18 model of my Porsche 911, in superb detail, with exact original Porsche paint colour. Perhaps we’ll find out more about Schuco in due course. Something has definitely changed! Nigel It may be the models on that one page are MinMax and that the statement doesn’t apply to the whole catalog. |
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Originally Posted by: Nigel Packer They also list Tamiya as one of their brands, but that’s still Japanese. But the German distributor is Dickie-Tamiya, so they have a reason to show that logo. |
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Yes Tom, I was thinking Jarda, but should have been Gama. Hong Kong yes?
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Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: Nigel Packer They also list Tamiya as one of their brands, but that’s still Japanese. But the German distributor is Dickie-Tamiya, so they have a reason to show that logo. Yes, absolutely, so my thought is that they are now still the distributor for Schuco, but no longer the owner of the company. I’ve no idea why they should have sold the Schuco business, as it seemed to me a good fit with Märklin and their other die cast product lines. I haven’t seen any press release or other information to explain the change in status, but it’s clear that Schuco is not participating in the Märklin or mhi new product announcements this year. Nigel |
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Originally Posted by: Nigel Packer
I haven’t seen any press release or other information to explain the change in status, but it’s clear that Schuco is not participating in the Märklin or mhi new product announcements this year.
Nigel
There is also nothing on the Simba-Dickie news page (reached via the link given earlier, and click 'News' in the bar at the top). I would have thought that if they had sold a brand it would get mentioned there.
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Personally I would be more keen on seeing Wiking vehicles back with Marklin stock. I hope this will be a future thing again. Wiking use to appear often as added vehicles in the past. |
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I have two Marklin DB auto carriers from the 90's with all Rietze cars. Ford Escort Caravan-maroon, Fiesta-aqua, Scorpio-cream, Mondeo sedan-red, Mondeo caravan-blue, Audi 500 touring brown, Honda Accord coupe/hatchback-green, Fiat Tipo-blue, Mitsubishi Pajero-blue, Opel Astra sedan-yellow, Opel Calibra-navy blue, Audi A4-lilac. Same item numbers, different issues. I think 4224, or 34. Also a double private carrier stack wagen set with all Busch Mercedes A class.
I thik the Wiking loaded ones were earlier, first with VW Beetles, then the Ford 2 M, or 16 M Taunus.
I missed the Herpa loaded ones with the 90's Mercedes S, E, etc. Then there was the Maybach loaded train set. Then the factory sets with 70's Mercedes coupes and sedans, either by Brekina, or die cast Chinese made perhaps Schuco.
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 I have two Marklin DB auto carriers from the 90's with all Rietze cars. Ford Escort Caravan-maroon, Fiesta-aqua, Scorpio-cream, Mondeo sedan-red, Mondeo caravan-blue, Audi 500 touring brown, Honda Accord coupe/hatchback-green, Fiat Tipo-blue, Mitsubishi Pajero-blue, Opel Astra sedan-yellow, Opel Calibra-navy blue, Audi A4-lilac. Same item numbers, different issues. I think 4224, or 34. Also a double private carrier stack wagen set with all Busch Mercedes A class.
I thik the Wiking loaded ones were earlier, first with VW Beetles, then the Ford 2 M, or 16 M Taunus.
I missed the Herpa loaded ones with the 90's Mercedes S, E, etc. Then there was the Maybach loaded train set. Then the factory sets with 70's Mercedes coupes and sedans, either by Brekina, or die cast Chinese made perhaps Schuco.
I think at least one OBB wagon had a red VW Caddy, a blue Seat Cordoba, a Porsche, etc. There are a whole heap of auto carrier wagons. Along with the Maybach set you mention there is the Porsche transporter set that was marketed through the Porsche Museum complete with a Porsche liveried locomotive. There was a Volkswagen themed transporter set which had two wagons loaded with VW cars and a diesel shunter.
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So I am seeing this MHI item posted on some dealers sites. Is this a hold over from last year, or new this year? Also wondering what year this Unimog with the adaptation to rail would have been active? The 406 itself has a long span from 1963 to 1989.  |
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Originally Posted by: Mark5 So I am seeing this MHI item posted on some dealers sites. Is this a hold over from last year, or new this year? Also wondering what year this Unimog with the adaptation to rail would have been active? The 406 itself has a long span from 1963 to 1989. One google result suggests it was a 2021 item.
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Originally Posted by: bph Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Originally Posted by: bph There seems to be a gold-plated UP Big Boy coming, locomotive No 4000, and article number 39400.
Could it perhaps be a special celebration model? or eg for those who have been an insider member for 30 years?
currently no further information or if it's partially or fully gold-plated......... Hello, Where did you get the information from? A. Thanks!!! I've found it. This helped me budget even better. Please post a link....
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noticed a few locomotives that seem to be coming: Märklin store locomotive 2023, 39904 Br 294 New Christmas locomotive 37149 BR 89 2412 (mLD3 decoder with separate susi sound decoder with all the sounds) Re 475 417-2 BLS 39934 (Trix 25197) DB 181 203-1 39583 (Trix 25181) no guarantees, and I might have missed/overlooked something etc....... 
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Originally Posted by: bph noticed a few locomotives that seem to be coming: Re 475 417-2 BLS 39934 (Trix 25197) no guarantees, and I might have missed/overlooked something etc....... Where did you see this information? I could not find anything Regards Mike C
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Originally Posted by: mike c Originally Posted by: bph noticed a few locomotives that seem to be coming: Re 475 417-2 BLS 39934 (Trix 25197) no guarantees, and I might have missed/overlooked something etc....... Where did you see this information? I could not find anything Regards Mike C same as I listed in post #253
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I've received an email that my 39244 is available to order from my dealer so it has arrived in Denmark! |
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister I've received an email that my 39244 is available to order from my dealer so it has arrived in Denmark! I had noticed they had appeared at Joes Modellbahn.
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39244 1,00 x EST Dampflok Serie 13 Ep.II
Mine's in stock at Huenerbein Aachen
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Yeaaahhhh!!!!! The Marklin 39810 SBB Giruno's are shipping! Mine will be on it's way shortly. I sent the payment Wednesday.
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Originally Posted by: bph noticed a few locomotives that seem to be coming: Märklin store locomotive 2023, 39904 Br 294 New Christmas locomotive 37149 BR 89 2412 (mLD3 decoder with separate susi sound decoder with all the sounds) Re 475 417-2 BLS 39934 (Trix 25197) DB 181 203-1 39583 (Trix 25181) no guarantees, and I might have missed/overlooked something etc....... Yes! DB 181 203-1 39583 (Trix 25181) |
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt The second Insider model is released.
It will be a BR 181.2 ref 39583. The third if we include Günni in the count. Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Two sets will be available too. To make a « Mozart » train. Ref 42893 and 42894. Nice international train composition. Partially 1:97 in length again. |
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Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt The second Insider model is released.
It will be a BR 181.2 ref 39583. The third if we include Günni in the count. Hello, It’s listed on the website as 2nd model. Günni is a different operation despite going through the Insider system.  So model nº2 it will be  A.
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It is a pitty Märklin doesn't do new electrics, like Vectrons, etc, with controlled pantographs.
The Giruno and the ICE 4 have and that is good!
The newly announced electric looks good, anyway.
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There is an interesting article about the BR 181.2 in the latest Insider magazine (no3 2023) 
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The BR181.2 is a great choice for Märklin Insiders.
Being a cross border type, I assume it appeals to European modellers generally, and I hope Märklin sells plenty.
It really is a beautiful locomotive, with a classic colour scheme.
I don't do era IV so unlikely to buy one.
Does DBAG still use these in traffic?
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow The BR181.2 is a great choice for Märklin Insiders.
Being a cross border type, I assume it appeals to European modellers generally, and I hope Märklin sells plenty. It is used between Germany and France - and it only visits very few German stations. So it appeals to some, but many will never have seen it in real life. I already have an old BR 184 from Märklin with four pantographs (Germany, France, BeNeLux), so the new one does not trigger my "want have" reflex and there is no sign of a "must have" reflex. As an Outsider I would look for other brands anyway or wait for an Outsider model. |
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it hasn't hit my 'must have' button, and the ~1200 Euro cost for loco plus two coach sets also doesn't go down well.
I must admit that the coaches do have lighting that can be switched off and on, using a decoder in the restaurant car, and they do seem to have put some effort into the interior details in that car, with different coloured fittings in the different areas, where previously things tended to be a single colour piece fitted in. I have pondered getting one of the coach sets to use with other locos I have, even if it makes the destination boards incorrect.
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I waited for ever and then Piko did a really nice one a couple of years ago and in the ocean blue an elfenbein (ivory) era that I mainly collect so I'm undecided as I have no blue or green electrics at all yet in my collection, nor non-DB coaches. Roco also did a passable one ages ago. However, I do have memories of seeing the actual train regularly at Stuttgart HBF. I might yet be tempted despite it being the wrong colour with the wrong coaches and a massive price tag and also having the Piko and Roco versions already. Difficult decision.
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I have a Piko BR 181, but I am also a fan of the ERA IV liveries and international trains, so the M version and coaches are tempting. 2 issues for me
a) small matter of €1200
b) Flying Scotsman is already my budget buster for this year.
Hmmm, what to do.
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I will wait for the era 3 version as E310
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Hi
The TRIX models 25440 and 25441 are delivered.
I put a hand on those.
From any point of view are excellent!!!!
Metal construction, dynamic smoke, excellent sounds. Marvelous.
The price is correct for these beautiful locos.
I am waiting for the Märklin version to get mine.
May be is a good start for collection.
Already Kansas announced. Is very nice, I had see a preproduction model is Toy fair in Nurnberg in January.
Is very nice model too
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