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Online kiwiAlan  
#51 Posted : 08 January 2020 20:00:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Leitner Go to Quoted Post
As far as I was told today the big news of this year may be the BR78 with completely new tooling.


Oh, you mean a repeat of last years second Insider Model, but I suspect it will be another year before they do.
Offline Herrfleck  
#52 Posted : 08 January 2020 20:18:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Leitner Go to Quoted Post
As far as I was told today the big news of this year may be the BR78 with completely new tooling.


Oh, you mean a repeat of last years second Insider Model, but I suspect it will be another year before they do.



Hello !

No i think in that case it is the usual BR 78 like Märklin 37074.

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Offline Herrfleck  
#53 Posted : 08 January 2020 20:23:12(UTC)
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Hello!

Does anyone know when the Märklin 2020 news gets online from Märklin?

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Offline vilithejou  
#54 Posted : 08 January 2020 20:25:45(UTC)
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From 14th to 16th may be... some shops make the neuheitenshow at 17/18th
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Offline Goofy  
#55 Posted : 09 January 2020 12:42:13(UTC)
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Thursday 16th!
Already small information present!!
Big Boy
BR 78 with the sounds and smoke generator!
SBB Be 4/6
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Offline Goofy  
#56 Posted : 09 January 2020 14:54:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Thursday 16th!
Already small information present!!
Big Boy
BR 78 with the sounds and smoke generator!
SBB Be 4/6


The BR 78 will cost about 520,00 euro.

Offline vilithejou  
#57 Posted : 09 January 2020 14:58:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Thursday 16th!
Already small information present!!
Big Boy
BR 78 with the sounds and smoke generator!
SBB Be 4/6


The BR 78 will cost about 520,00 euro.



Have we got phtos and description? Many thanks
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Offline Goofy  
#58 Posted : 09 January 2020 15:00:11(UTC)
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Not yet.
The info was from an danish hobby store in the Facebook.
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Offline vilithejou  
#59 Posted : 09 January 2020 15:08:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Not yet.
The info was from an danish hobby store in the Facebook.


Then... the link to the facebook shop please

Danke!!!
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Offline Rinus  
#60 Posted : 09 January 2020 15:14:09(UTC)
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520 Euro’s for a locomotive?!?! Confused
Offline vilithejou  
#61 Posted : 09 January 2020 15:19:42(UTC)
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520 Euro’s for a locomotive?!?! Confused


may be with dynamic smoke generator?
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Offline Goofy  
#62 Posted : 09 January 2020 15:41:00(UTC)
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Sorry i read wrong...it is 450,00 euro.
Kystbanen in the Facebook.
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#63 Posted : 09 January 2020 16:54:43(UTC)
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Sorry i read wrong...it is 450,00 euro.
Kystbanen in the Facebook.


970€ the Big Boy ...
Aoutch.
Who wants my 37995 weathered Big Boy? BigGrin ACB0413D-C46B-456F-87AC-7C909B7330E8.png
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Offline Rinus  
#64 Posted : 09 January 2020 17:21:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post
520 Euro’s for a locomotive?!?! Confused


may be with dynamic smoke generator?


For 520 or 450 Euro's (Thx Goofy) I want a robot traindriver 1/87 scale included Cool
Offline RayF  
#65 Posted : 09 January 2020 17:45:15(UTC)
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I hope that's not the full list. Only two new locomotives?
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Offline Goofy  
#66 Posted : 09 January 2020 17:52:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
I hope that's not the full list. Only two new locomotives?


The list shows only about 1/10 of total.

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Offline mbarreto  
#67 Posted : 09 January 2020 17:56:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
I hope that's not the full list. Only two new locomotives?


Maybe they will present more, but don't forget there is the Insider RAm and the ICE4 already announced (even if announced in 2019). There will also probably be an Insider 2 a surprise locotive later in the year.
Maybe the BigBoy will have synchronized steam...


Mostly Märklin H0.


Offline Francois29  
#68 Posted : 09 January 2020 18:51:02(UTC)
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I thought that there will be another version of the br 75.4, differing from the Insider 39753.

And I feel that I will keep my good old 3106, as 450€ seems quite expensive.

I just hope that the Insider 2 lok will be an interesting tank engine, as it is the case since some years.
Offline Minok  
#69 Posted : 09 January 2020 21:17:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
From a marketing prospective (or at least my own in the context of my job), I think the smarter move is dropping major announcements (like the 241 steamer and the tee set) away from a show. This enables you to dominate the news cycle, and be the center of attention vs a voice in the crowd at Nuremberg.

I suspect marklin is learning this, and the “regular” new items catalogue will be less new tooling, more repaints and rolling stock.

I look forward regardless!


That approach is a mixed bag. A trade fair (for industry and journalists) has the benefit of getting your direct customers (the dealers and the journalists) there en-mass and they will cover your product. If you do your own thing to try and dominate the mythical-short-lived news-cycle, you might get coverage all by yourself on a given day, but have a lot less of the dealers/press there so the coverage will not be as broad. But then todays world most news is internet distributed anyway, so it matters not one bit from the consumer perspective. We will watch the Märklin stuff whenever it comes out, be it on a day with a lot of other stuff, or all on its own on a day. Who else is announcing product on that day matters nothing. Now in the space where the average consumer is a lot less educated and involved with the product, such as consumer electronics, that 'my own day' approach may have some value, but in a hobby space, I don't think it does. (Despite what the journalists and bloggers would suggest)
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Offline bph  
#70 Posted : 09 January 2020 23:27:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Sorry i read wrong...it is 450,00 euro.
Kystbanen in the Facebook.


970€ the Big Boy ...
Aoutch.
Who wants my 37995 weathered Big Boy? BigGrin


If I remember correctly the first 37990 Big Boy, was actually a bit more expensive, at least in Norway
It's tempting, but I think I will upgrade my existing 37990 a new decoder.


Online kiwiAlan  
#71 Posted : 10 January 2020 00:25:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post
520 Euro’s for a locomotive?!?! Confused


That is the same as the 39520 Kofferli.

Online kiwiAlan  
#72 Posted : 10 January 2020 00:30:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post

ACB0413D-C46B-456F-87AC-7C909B7330E8.png


Um, a Jim Knopf start set? Will this have an HO sized loco then, instead of the 'huge' loco originally produced?

maybe this is a way to sell all the wagon sets that still seem to be available.

Online kiwiAlan  
#73 Posted : 10 January 2020 00:32:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post

ACB0413D-C46B-456F-87AC-7C909B7330E8.png


Um, a Jim Knopf start set? Will this have an HO sized loco then, instead of the 'huge' loco originally produced?

maybe this is a way to sell all the wagon sets that still seem to be available.



Hmm, a v320 in G1 ...
Offline PeFu  
#74 Posted : 10 January 2020 06:00:20(UTC)
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For me, the Be 4/6 would be of more interest if it’s the 12301...

https://en.m.wikipedia.o...SBB-CFF-FFS_Be_4/6_12301

...rather than the 12302-12342 prototypes, of which some models are already offered by Roco...

https://en.m.wikipedia.o...SBB-CFF-FFS_Be_4/6_12302

https://en.m.wikipedia.o...F-FFS_Be_4/6_12303-12342

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Offline AntoinePrt  
#75 Posted : 10 January 2020 06:36:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Sorry i read wrong...it is 450,00 euro.
Kystbanen in the Facebook.


970€ the Big Boy ...
Aoutch.
Who wants my 37995 weathered Big Boy? BigGrin


If I remember correctly the first 37990 Big Boy, was actually a bit more expensive, at least in Norway
It's tempting, but I think I will upgrade my existing 37990 a new decoder.




The latest Big Boy, Ref 37996, was issued with the 2015 news. 799.99€.

A.
Offline NS1200  
#76 Posted : 10 January 2020 15:50:23(UTC)
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Just picked up the 2019/2020 catalogue from the Marklin shop in Rotterdam.
On page 7 there is a Jim Knoop (Dutch) starterset number 29179 (not 29199).
Knoop means 'Button" or "Knot",also used for a nautical mile (1,852 mtrs).
The loco is 10.5 cm high on a 3029 look a like wheelset.
On page 219 there is a 72786 3D puzzle related to Jim Knoop/Knopf with a fairy tale style island to construct.
However this puzzle is not 1/87 scale and not suitable for C track,it says.

No sign as yet of set 29023.
NS series (Reihe in German) 700 is curently a two axle Dieselshunter,the model would be new to Marklin.
The prototype is Vossloh G 400 B.
The old series NS 700 was a three axle Dieselshunter with coupled wheels,never issued by Marklin.
An entirely new model for a starterset?
I doubt it.
it probably is the Henschel DHG 700 (Marklin 3088 etc.) in a fantasy NS livery.
The brochure with 2020 news would be available later this month i was told.
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Offline Goofy  
#77 Posted : 11 January 2020 10:23:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post
520 Euro’s for a locomotive?!?! Confused


That is the same as the 39520 Kofferli.



No Köfferli cost €580,00 in standard.
The new swiss model Be 4/6 cost €520,00.

Offline Goofy  
#78 Posted : 11 January 2020 10:30:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post


970€ the Big Boy ...
Aoutch.
Who wants my 37995 weathered Big Boy? BigGrin


If I remember correctly the first 37990 Big Boy, was actually a bit more expensive, at least in Norway
It's tempting, but I think I will upgrade my existing 37990 a new decoder.




The latest Big Boy, Ref 37996, was issued with the 2015 news. 799.99€.

A.


The new Big Boy 37997 do have more functions and it explain also higher price adding VAT and more expenses.

Offline vilithejou  
#79 Posted : 11 January 2020 10:38:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post


970€ the Big Boy ...
Aoutch.
Who wants my 37995 weathered Big Boy? BigGrin


If I remember correctly the first 37990 Big Boy, was actually a bit more expensive, at least in Norway
It's tempting, but I think I will upgrade my existing 37990 a new decoder.




The latest Big Boy, Ref 37996, was issued with the 2015 news. 799.99€.

A.


The new Big Boy 37997 do have more functions and it explain also higher price adding VAT and more expenses.



And Oil tender... the lids of the greasing boxes of the tender are gray as in the Challenger, and a new whistle, and... and... will be a great model
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Offline steventrain  
#80 Posted : 14 January 2020 11:05:56(UTC)
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Marklin will present 2020 new items online- end of this week.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Offline Goofy  
#81 Posted : 14 January 2020 11:41:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Marklin will present 2020 new items online- end of this week.


Yes?
Someone did wrote on thursday.

Offline vilithejou  
#82 Posted : 14 January 2020 14:19:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Marklin will present 2020 new items online- end of this week.


Yes?
Someone did wrote on thursday.



Some shop have pdf on Wendesday... rest Thursday...

Lots of new items... no much era II and III lot of Era IV and VI

Some new tooling will be...
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#83 Posted : 14 January 2020 14:21:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Marklin will present 2020 new items online- end of this week.


Yes?
Someone did wrote on thursday.



Some shop have pdf on Wendesday... rest Thursday...

Lots of new items... no much era II and III lot of Era IV and VI

Some new tooling will be...


How intriguing!

I guess we can wait another day or two! BigGrin
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Offline twmarklinfan  
#84 Posted : 14 January 2020 14:22:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Marklin will present 2020 new items online- end of this week.


Yes?
Someone did wrote on thursday.



Some shop have pdf on Wendesday... rest Thursday...

Lots of new items... no much era II and III lot of Era IV and VI

Some new tooling will be...


Not much era II or III, credit card company will be ☹️ however wife and bank will be very 😃
Offline Goofy  
#85 Posted : 15 January 2020 11:19:17(UTC)
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I wonder if Märklin present more news about digital system?

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#86 Posted : 15 January 2020 11:44:30(UTC)
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Some shop have pdf on Wendesday... rest Thursday...


So that's Thursday / Friday then......

(Given NZ is 13 hours ahead of Germany)

Which shops will have the pdf on Wednesday (German time)?
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#87 Posted : 15 January 2020 18:19:24(UTC)
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The brochure with the news BigGrin

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#88 Posted : 15 January 2020 18:37:56(UTC)
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It can be found at trainsdepot.org.

Bob M.
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Offline Rinus  
#89 Posted : 15 January 2020 18:53:52(UTC)
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It can be found at trainsdepot.org.

Bob M.


follow link, go to miniature modells an then ton manyfacturer.

Thx Bob for sharing!

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Offline DasBert33  
#90 Posted : 15 January 2020 19:15:17(UTC)
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So what do you think of the NH2020?
Offline Rinus  
#91 Posted : 15 January 2020 19:18:43(UTC)
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So what do you think of the NH2020?


Had expected or hoped for more things of interest in epoch 3 or 4. Probably my expectations where too high.

Rinus
Offline DasBert33  
#92 Posted : 15 January 2020 19:27:15(UTC)
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Had expected or hoped for more things of interest in epoch 3 or 4. Probably my expectations where too high.

Rinus


Yeah mine were too initially but after the mention of little Era2 I kind of knew what to expect. I was hoping for a D311 (V188) in grey colors as the Gauge1 model from recently, but I knew chances were slim. The 95 004 is nice but maybe not special enough.
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#93 Posted : 15 January 2020 19:42:58(UTC)
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I almost missed the most important new item: warm white turnout lantern kit!
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Offline steventrain  
#94 Posted : 15 January 2020 19:45:22(UTC)
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Some are reissue with new running numbers.

E103.1 Touristikzug would be interesting.
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Offline RayF  
#95 Posted : 15 January 2020 19:47:41(UTC)
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I've had a quick flick through, and at first glance the following have caught my eye:

Br75.4
Br95
Class 66 diesels
Blue SBB Re4/4 I
SNCF tinplate coaches (Already have a 3038)
Henschel EA500 (as an exercise for detailing and/or weathering)

I'll wait for a list of prices and release dates before deciding.
Ray
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Offline DasBert33  
#96 Posted : 15 January 2020 19:57:31(UTC)
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The Insider 2020 car is nice too. I like tank cars. At least that one I will get (automatically).
Offline Francois29  
#97 Posted : 15 January 2020 20:12:52(UTC)
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The prices are shown in the German edition that you can get on Drehscheibe-Online, under 06 Modellbahn

Best to provide the actual link when making reference to one.

German PDF can be found at: (Quite slow)


https://www.memoba.at/ctg_mediaa..._Internet_compressed.pdf

Also

https://drive.google.com/file/d/...yHS2N043J6VH-iiR9fx/view (Much faster)
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Offline Francois29  
#98 Posted : 15 January 2020 20:14:36(UTC)
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I will wait 2021 to see a new variant of the br 65 as the previous br 95 and 75.4 have now new versions.
Offline DasBert33  
#99 Posted : 15 January 2020 20:16:15(UTC)
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I wonder whether the class 66 is a cooperation with ESU. The smoke generator and lighted control panel are similar to their product.
Offline vilithejou  
#100 Posted : 15 January 2020 20:37:27(UTC)
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I wonder whether the class 66 is a cooperation with ESU. The smoke generator and lighted control panel are similar to their product.


No... The somke generator is like ludmilla....
If product have to competiotion to ESU have tod be good, Mehano have got too, but it's not the same € market...
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