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Originally Posted by: Leitner  As far as I was told today the big news of this year may be the BR78 with completely new tooling. Oh, you mean a repeat of last years second Insider Model, but I suspect it will be another year before they do.
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: Leitner As far as I was told today the big news of this year may be the BR78 with completely new tooling. Oh, you mean a repeat of last years second Insider Model, but I suspect it will be another year before they do. Hello ! No i think in that case it is the usual BR 78 like Märklin 37074. Regards Bertil. |
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Hello!
Does anyone know when the Märklin 2020 news gets online from Märklin?
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From 14th to 16th may be... some shops make the neuheitenshow at 17/18th |
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Thursday 16th!
Already small information present!!
Big Boy
BR 78 with the sounds and smoke generator!
SBB Be 4/6 |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Thursday 16th!
Already small information present!!
Big Boy
BR 78 with the sounds and smoke generator!
SBB Be 4/6 The BR 78 will cost about 520,00 euro. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: Goofy Thursday 16th!
Already small information present!!
Big Boy
BR 78 with the sounds and smoke generator!
SBB Be 4/6 The BR 78 will cost about 520,00 euro. Have we got phtos and description? Many thanks |
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Not yet.
The info was from an danish hobby store in the Facebook. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Not yet.
The info was from an danish hobby store in the Facebook. Then... the link to the facebook shop please Danke!!! |
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520 Euro’s for a locomotive?!?! 
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Originally Posted by: Rinus 520 Euro’s for a locomotive?!?! may be with dynamic smoke generator? |
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Sorry i read wrong...it is 450,00 euro.
Kystbanen in the Facebook. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Sorry i read wrong...it is 450,00 euro.
Kystbanen in the Facebook. 970€ the Big Boy ... Aoutch. Who wants my 37995 weathered Big Boy?  
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: Rinus 520 Euro’s for a locomotive?!?! may be with dynamic smoke generator? For 520 or 450 Euro's (Thx Goofy) I want a robot traindriver 1/87 scale included 
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I hope that's not the full list. Only two new locomotives? |
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Originally Posted by: RayF I hope that's not the full list. Only two new locomotives? The list shows only about 1/10 of total. |
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Originally Posted by: RayF I hope that's not the full list. Only two new locomotives? Maybe they will present more, but don't forget there is the Insider RAm and the ICE4 already announced (even if announced in 2019). There will also probably be an Insider 2 a surprise locotive later in the year. Maybe the BigBoy will have synchronized steam... |
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I thought that there will be another version of the br 75.4, differing from the Insider 39753.
And I feel that I will keep my good old 3106, as 450€ seems quite expensive.
I just hope that the Insider 2 lok will be an interesting tank engine, as it is the case since some years.
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR From a marketing prospective (or at least my own in the context of my job), I think the smarter move is dropping major announcements (like the 241 steamer and the tee set) away from a show. This enables you to dominate the news cycle, and be the center of attention vs a voice in the crowd at Nuremberg.
I suspect marklin is learning this, and the “regular” new items catalogue will be less new tooling, more repaints and rolling stock.
I look forward regardless! That approach is a mixed bag. A trade fair (for industry and journalists) has the benefit of getting your direct customers (the dealers and the journalists) there en-mass and they will cover your product. If you do your own thing to try and dominate the mythical-short-lived news-cycle, you might get coverage all by yourself on a given day, but have a lot less of the dealers/press there so the coverage will not be as broad. But then todays world most news is internet distributed anyway, so it matters not one bit from the consumer perspective. We will watch the Märklin stuff whenever it comes out, be it on a day with a lot of other stuff, or all on its own on a day. Who else is announcing product on that day matters nothing. Now in the space where the average consumer is a lot less educated and involved with the product, such as consumer electronics, that 'my own day' approach may have some value, but in a hobby space, I don't think it does. (Despite what the journalists and bloggers would suggest) |
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Originally Posted by: Goofy Sorry i read wrong...it is 450,00 euro.
Kystbanen in the Facebook. 970€ the Big Boy ... Aoutch. Who wants my 37995 weathered Big Boy? If I remember correctly the first 37990 Big Boy, was actually a bit more expensive, at least in Norway It's tempting, but I think I will upgrade my existing 37990 a new decoder.
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Originally Posted by: Rinus 520 Euro’s for a locomotive?!?! That is the same as the 39520 Kofferli.
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Um, a Jim Knopf start set? Will this have an HO sized loco then, instead of the 'huge' loco originally produced? maybe this is a way to sell all the wagon sets that still seem to be available.
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Um, a Jim Knopf start set? Will this have an HO sized loco then, instead of the 'huge' loco originally produced? maybe this is a way to sell all the wagon sets that still seem to be available. Hmm, a v320 in G1 ...
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Originally Posted by: bph Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Originally Posted by: Goofy Sorry i read wrong...it is 450,00 euro.
Kystbanen in the Facebook. 970€ the Big Boy ... Aoutch. Who wants my 37995 weathered Big Boy? If I remember correctly the first 37990 Big Boy, was actually a bit more expensive, at least in Norway It's tempting, but I think I will upgrade my existing 37990 a new decoder. The latest Big Boy, Ref 37996, was issued with the 2015 news. 799.99€. A.
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Just picked up the 2019/2020 catalogue from the Marklin shop in Rotterdam.
On page 7 there is a Jim Knoop (Dutch) starterset number 29179 (not 29199).
Knoop means 'Button" or "Knot",also used for a nautical mile (1,852 mtrs).
The loco is 10.5 cm high on a 3029 look a like wheelset.
On page 219 there is a 72786 3D puzzle related to Jim Knoop/Knopf with a fairy tale style island to construct.
However this puzzle is not 1/87 scale and not suitable for C track,it says.
No sign as yet of set 29023.
NS series (Reihe in German) 700 is curently a two axle Dieselshunter,the model would be new to Marklin.
The prototype is Vossloh G 400 B.
The old series NS 700 was a three axle Dieselshunter with coupled wheels,never issued by Marklin.
An entirely new model for a starterset?
I doubt it.
it probably is the Henschel DHG 700 (Marklin 3088 etc.) in a fantasy NS livery.
The brochure with 2020 news would be available later this month i was told. |
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: Rinus 520 Euro’s for a locomotive?!?! That is the same as the 39520 Kofferli. No Köfferli cost €580,00 in standard. The new swiss model Be 4/6 cost €520,00. |
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Originally Posted by: bph Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt 970€ the Big Boy ... Aoutch. Who wants my 37995 weathered Big Boy? If I remember correctly the first 37990 Big Boy, was actually a bit more expensive, at least in Norway It's tempting, but I think I will upgrade my existing 37990 a new decoder. The latest Big Boy, Ref 37996, was issued with the 2015 news. 799.99€. A. The new Big Boy 37997 do have more functions and it explain also higher price adding VAT and more expenses. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Originally Posted by: bph Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt 970€ the Big Boy ... Aoutch. Who wants my 37995 weathered Big Boy? If I remember correctly the first 37990 Big Boy, was actually a bit more expensive, at least in Norway It's tempting, but I think I will upgrade my existing 37990 a new decoder. The latest Big Boy, Ref 37996, was issued with the 2015 news. 799.99€. A. The new Big Boy 37997 do have more functions and it explain also higher price adding VAT and more expenses. And Oil tender... the lids of the greasing boxes of the tender are gray as in the Challenger, and a new whistle, and... and... will be a great model |
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Marklin will present 2020 new items online- end of this week. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Marklin will present 2020 new items online- end of this week. Yes? Someone did wrote on thursday. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: steventrain Marklin will present 2020 new items online- end of this week. Yes? Someone did wrote on thursday. Some shop have pdf on Wendesday... rest Thursday... Lots of new items... no much era II and III lot of Era IV and VI Some new tooling will be... |
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: steventrain Marklin will present 2020 new items online- end of this week. Yes? Someone did wrote on thursday. Some shop have pdf on Wendesday... rest Thursday... Lots of new items... no much era II and III lot of Era IV and VI Some new tooling will be... How intriguing! I guess we can wait another day or two! |
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: steventrain Marklin will present 2020 new items online- end of this week. Yes? Someone did wrote on thursday. Some shop have pdf on Wendesday... rest Thursday... Lots of new items... no much era II and III lot of Era IV and VI Some new tooling will be... Not much era II or III, credit card company will be ☹️ however wife and bank will be very 😃
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I wonder if Märklin present more news about digital system?
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Some shop have pdf on Wendesday... rest Thursday... So that's Thursday / Friday then...... (Given NZ is 13 hours ahead of Germany) Which shops will have the pdf on Wednesday (German time)?
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It can be found at trainsdepot.org.
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Originally Posted by: rmsailor
It can be found at trainsdepot.org.
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follow link, go to miniature modells an then ton manyfacturer. Thx Bob for sharing!
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So what do you think of the NH2020?
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Originally Posted by: DasBert33 So what do you think of the NH2020?
Had expected or hoped for more things of interest in epoch 3 or 4. Probably my expectations where too high. Rinus
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Originally Posted by: Rinus
Had expected or hoped for more things of interest in epoch 3 or 4. Probably my expectations where too high.
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Yeah mine were too initially but after the mention of little Era2 I kind of knew what to expect. I was hoping for a D311 (V188) in grey colors as the Gauge1 model from recently, but I knew chances were slim. The 95 004 is nice but maybe not special enough.
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I almost missed the most important new item: warm white turnout lantern kit!
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Some are reissue with new running numbers.
E103.1 Touristikzug would be interesting. |
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I've had a quick flick through, and at first glance the following have caught my eye:
Br75.4
Br95
Class 66 diesels
Blue SBB Re4/4 I
SNCF tinplate coaches (Already have a 3038)
Henschel EA500 (as an exercise for detailing and/or weathering)
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The Insider 2020 car is nice too. I like tank cars. At least that one I will get (automatically).
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I will wait 2021 to see a new variant of the br 65 as the previous br 95 and 75.4 have now new versions.
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I wonder whether the class 66 is a cooperation with ESU. The smoke generator and lighted control panel are similar to their product.
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Originally Posted by: DasBert33 I wonder whether the class 66 is a cooperation with ESU. The smoke generator and lighted control panel are similar to their product. No... The somke generator is like ludmilla.... If product have to competiotion to ESU have tod be good, Mehano have got too, but it's not the same € market... |
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