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You have to be an Insider member to be able to order this loco - the form asks for your Insider membership number.

You can obtain the loco as an Outsider if you wait for it to appear on ebay or find a dealer that has one spare as a result of an Insider cancelling their order.

This is very good advice IMO. Any Insider order is linked to the Insider number of the member who ordered it and not to someone who just happens to have the form. I guess you could make this work with a bit of trickery, but it is fraudulent and Märklin would have every right to object.

I order with lokshop last week with Insider club membership number record.

10% discount as well.

Certificate will be in the post to club profile house address at end of 2018.

I think that every Insider member who paid their membership fee would have every right to object, since we have paid our annual membership fees in exchange for the privilege of being allowed to order limited edition locos. Here we have someone who is trying to fraudulently bypass that process.



You can see it any way you like, doesn't mean you are right!

Show me where it says on the form that Insider members have the right to transfer their Insider purchasing rights to someone else, and I'll let this be.

I'm sure Marklin would reject a 700 euro order if they detected an attempt at circumventing the Insider membership rules. Do you think they are so immoral that they would take the money and run? I'd hope not, and I don't think they would.

As has already been pointed out there are more legitimate ways to obtain Insider locos when you're an Outsider. Many members on the forum including myself have done this many times. Plus, as Stephen points out, the certificate will get sent to the address of the Insider member you got the form off.

Edited by user 14 December 2017 10:03:50(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

On the back of the form right at the bottom it says "This order form is non-transferable."

The coal-loaded car in the 2018 insider car set should be weathered, and not unrealistically squeaky-clean as shown. It's coal!!
How can this be suggested to the Märklin design team? And will they listen?

https://www.maerklin.de/...e/details/article/46567/

Email Insider@marklin.de, or post a letter to Herr Seibel?

While you are at it, tell them the Trix wagon set needs different road numbers.

Good idea.. I don't think that many people have a weathered croc with weathered freight.. I will send an e-mail off too..

Until they confuse Oz with NZ, and delay Oz's Insider packs even further.

Marklin can't do weathered on Insider 2018 after announced on marklin database. M can not change the mind, Contact your loco weathering service to do it.

Maybe M plan weathered on crocodile later this year with very limited series.

They have changed their mind in the past - the 39160 Franco Crosti loco was delivered in a different colour to what it was originally announced. The colour change was announced before delivery.

That's true, but one of the advantages of being on the later end of the list is that any production errors are fixed before the item gets to you..

I didn't know that Märklin had ever made a model of the VT 12.5 - what was the item number of that please?

Hello Märklin friends,

Does anyone know if I could get all the digital operation for the pantograph in the new Insider Cocco loco available at all with an "old" CS1 or not?
Thanks in advance
Beste regards
Stefano

I ordered my Insider 103 in early February, while a friend in Bavaria ordered his just days before the closing in late April. He received his 103 last summer while I have
only had mine for a few weeks. I think geography plays a big part in when you get your Insider model and not just when you place the order. Of course by getting mine late I have cab windows which fit better than my Bavarian friend's model, so I am not sorry that mine took so long to arrive.

Why think about it again?

I did it this year, joing the club, just to buy the first 103.1 long version. Meanwhile the loco is running over my layout so smoothly as no other one did it before and I love it. Although the total train 103.1. plus Parsifal coaches is almost too long for my today layout. So I am thinking about to expand my layout.

Ah - and of course, once I decided, not to buy a corcodile. But this insider loco, yes, I have to confess, it will be my very first swiss croco. (I got 2 German ones E 94) And as the Insider letter told me: yes, it is a shunting loco, but it also was still used for regluar train rides, especially via the Gotthard. Also it will be the first M-loco with the new developed M-telex coupler.

Perhaps you think about too, telling Maerklin, you were advertised by another Insider Club memeber. This gives a very special coach extra fo the advertising member.

If you are referring to the 39170 Insider BR103, you can no longer order it, as the ordering deadline for this loco ended earlier this year (might have been April).

The only way you can get it is as an Outsider on ebay or by finding a dealer who has one for sale, due to a cancelled order. Now is the time to do this if you really want one - there is currently 3 available on ebay.

https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_...rklin+39170&_sacat=0

Hi Steven

I do not understand how this dealer sells models intended for the members of the insider club ???

Thewolf

Hi David,

good question, but I have to confess it is not so easy to photograph a complete long train like the Parsifal with the 103.1 long. I do not have pictures from my Parsifal at my layout, but ...

... but after joining the Insider Club, I joined a MIST too. MIST stands for

Maerklin
Insider
Stamm
Tisch

"Stammtisch" is in German what my dictionary tells me in English should be a "group of regulars". Huh, I do not know, if this will be the correct word. Nevertheless do you understand it?


This MIST has a huge club layout and there a few pictures were made from my running Parsifal with the 103.1 long as the pulling loco. Please have a look here:

http://mist-im-msp.de/hauptseite.htm

Follow:
Archiv 2017 - meeting date Sep, 24th 2017 (= # 90) - column "Bilderschau" (= viewing pictures) pictures 3 to 7. There you see my Parsifal on tour.

Also here at marklin-users.net we have topics about the insider 103.1 long. If you want to read and see them, have a look here, seeing plenty of pictures (including pictures of my others E03/103), videos, etc.:

https://www.marklin-user...rgest-version--103-243-2

https://www.marklin-user...Express---Arrive--Photos

Happy X-mas and best regards

TEEWolf

Every dealer is also entitled to one unallocated Insider item for him/herself.

Hello Marklin users community. I have and old digital krok from a big digital Swiss starter set but it only is 3 axle powered. Which model of Krokodill are six axle powered?

Dr. E, it is reported to have "NEW" Telex couplers with a slimmer profile! (Hopefully these new, slim Telex couplers will become available as a spare part for retrofitting other loks...)

While I love the look of this Krok and all the details & features - Telex & remote panto! - I am going to pass. 2017 really stressed the budget - TEE sets!!! (DB 103 + Parisfal set, SNCF TEE "L’Etoile du Nord", SBB Re 4/4I TEE + Rheingold), and a few other items...

I already have 3 SBB Kroks including the green/brown double-set, and a brown digital version without the counterweight drive; I also have the "Halbschuh" switch engine double-set (onto which I'd like to figure out how to retrofit Telex couplers!), and I have the new Ee 3/3 with Telex on order. That's enough Swiss switching power for my layout!

I like the Insider freight car set mostly for the end-marker lights! (But is that really worth ~$200?)

- Bill

Hello Thewolf,

today I found on the homepage of a Swiss Maerklin dealer

http://shop.zugkraft-stu...en-mit-mfx-sound-decoder

a very interesting business model to buy (or sell) an insider model.

Here it his text from its homepage in English


"Era IV

SBB Ce 6/8 II 14282 "Shunting crocodile" green, with mfx+ sound decoder, digitally switchable pantograph and digital couplings on both sides of the locomotive.

The green shunting crocodile SBB Ce 6/8 II 14282 has an mfx+ sound decoder with extensive noise functions, 2 controlled high-performance drives, LED lighting, digital switchable pantograph, digital couplings on both locomotive sides. The model is manufactured in a highly detailed metal version and represents a crocodile from the first series of models. As a shunting crocodile, the locomotive has shunting platforms and manoeuvring steps on both sides, sleeve buffers and oil cooler boxes. Fir green basic colouring. Operating condition at the end of the 1970s.

This locomotive is offered as insider model 2018 in a unique series. The order deadline is 30.04.2018.
What does that mean if you're not yet an insider? It's very simple: you order the crocodile from us and we will register you as a new insider member with Märklin. We will make sure that you receive this crocodile including membership fee for a whole year at exactly the listed price.
Exactly how it works: After the Insider registration you will receive an invoice from Märklin for the annual fee. You transfer this invoice to us for payment. As a new insider member, Märklin will send you a shopping voucher worth € 40.00, which you should hand over to us, as this will finance part of your membership fee. And then, at the moment your beautiful crocodile is delivered, you will receive it at the offered price.

Prices are subject to change due to exchange rate fluctuations."


The major interesting point is the price. Normally the Ce 6/8 II costs 500 € in Germany. At Stucki in Switzerland you get the loco for 550 CHF (today about 470 €) including one year Insider Club membership. Not bad. OK there is a significant difference in the VAT (Switzerland 7,7% - Germany 19%), but Stucki offers a real deal to its customers.

Stucki must be a good reseller for Maerklin. I read last year, that at the 2017 toy fair in Nuernberg he placed orders for 500.000 € only for Maerklin products. Not bad, is this about 0,5% of Maerklins total annual sales.

regards

TEEWolf