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Offline steventrain  
#1 Posted : 11 November 2016 14:30:01(UTC)
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MARKLIN INSIDER 2017 IS NOW ANNOUNCED !

Marklin Insider Model 2017 is 39170 BR103.1, the largest version. 103 243-2

Change the driver with the direction of the loco
Pantos functional
Several sound functions

See Marklin MARapp for details.

Thanks to vilithejou for the news.ThumpUp

Edited by user 17 November 2016 11:31:33(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline dennisb  
#2 Posted : 11 November 2016 16:13:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
The Insider 2017 will be a possible newly tooling long cab E103.



Damn! I'm a sucker for the 103's and I'm sure it will be an excellent model. I'm more a fan of the short ones but I think this will be a great model so...

D.
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Offline steventrain  
#3 Posted : 11 November 2016 17:43:29(UTC)
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I hope it came with TEE coaches pack.
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Offline petestra  
#4 Posted : 11 November 2016 18:54:17(UTC)
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I can go for that. It will be my 4th. Peter ThumpUp
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Offline river6109  
#5 Posted : 12 November 2016 06:37:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
I hope it came with TEE coaches pack.


we're not going back to the eighties ? every carriage came in dribs and drabs over a period of years and some never appeared

John

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Offline mike c  
#6 Posted : 12 November 2016 08:02:29(UTC)
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I have no doubt, given the fact that 2017 marks 60 years since the introduction of Trans Europ Express (TEE) trains, that we will see a number of TEE related items in the new and special items. Likely among these are definitely a new E 103/BR 103 model as well as an AC version of the Trix 22131 RAm TEE Diesel train.
At the same time, 2017 also marks 30 years of Eurocity trains, as the EC trains were introduced in 1987, so I would also expect some models in commemoration of that as well.

Regards

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Offline steventrain  
#7 Posted : 12 November 2016 08:19:21(UTC)
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I think it is 'Special novelty' and due in time for Xmas? Such as 37015 S2/6.

But already 39911 Challenger?
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#8 Posted : 12 November 2016 12:17:40(UTC)
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E103??? I don't think there was ever a locomotive called an E103. The early versions were E03, but they later became BR103 when the new numbering system was introduced (around 1968 I think it was).

That said, these locomotives are my favourite German electric loco so if it is 60 years since the first TEE trains ran, then we might see another 1 Gauge BR103 as well as this particular model Stephen refers to.

Dang, if they bring out the loco in G1 then there will have to be coaches for it. Might get rather expensive.
Offline H0  
#9 Posted : 12 November 2016 13:53:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
E103??? I don't think there was ever a locomotive called an E103.
Correct. There were two E 191, but never any E 103 or E 120.

All locos in the E 1xx range were DC locos. The ET 194 11 was also DC.
Regards
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Offline jlopez  
#10 Posted : 12 November 2016 17:32:18(UTC)
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I'm in. It will be my third, my favorite engine next to the GG1, and the BR50 with the cab on the tender.
Offline jvuye  
#11 Posted : 12 November 2016 19:48:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
I hope it came with TEE coaches pack.


Yes...or even better IMHO , an IC era set with 1st Class and restaurant in TEE colors (4 to 5 coaches) , and second class in "Ozean blau- Elfenbein" livery. (6 to 8 coaches)
(I know RayF will not agree with me as he may not have space on his layout to run a train with 10 to 13 coaches...Wink ...but think of the pictures you could take, Ray!! Smile )
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Offline RayF  
#12 Posted : 12 November 2016 20:10:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
I hope it came with TEE coaches pack.


Yes...or even better IMHO , an IC era set with 1st Class and restaurant in TEE colors (4 to 5 coaches) , and second class in "Ozean blau- Elfenbein" livery. (6 to 8 coaches)
(I know RayF will not agree with me as he may not have space on his layout to run a train with 10 to 13 coaches...Wink ...but think of the pictures you could take, Ray!! Smile )


I'm sure it would make a beautiful set, but as always I wish they would also make available a selection of the individual coaches so that those with limited space can make a shortened version.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#13 Posted : 12 November 2016 20:55:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
......I wish they would also make available a selection of the individual coaches so that those with limited space can make a shortened version.


The recent TEE Helvetia train with the Re 4/4II had 3 and 4 coach pack sets (43853 / 43854) as well as the 43866 Dining Car. A set of 3 would be OK on your layout Ray.

I got the Dining Car and the 4 coach set, but not the 3 coach set as I figured 8 cars would be too long.
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Offline twmarklinfan  
#14 Posted : 12 November 2016 23:19:49(UTC)
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Definitely one for me BigGrin
Offline Goofy  
#15 Posted : 13 November 2016 01:52:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
E103??? I don't think there was ever a locomotive called an E103.
Correct. There were two E 191, but never any E 103 or E 120.

All locos in the E 1xx range were DC locos. The ET 194 11 was also DC.


It depends by present "vorserie" or "serie".

E 03
E 03 001-004 to year 1968
103 001-004 to year 1989

BR 103.1
103 101-245 year 1989-2005

Edited by user 13 November 2016 07:59:39(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

DCC means Digital Command Control.

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Offline H0  
#16 Posted : 13 November 2016 09:18:37(UTC)
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It depends by present "vorserie" or "serie".
Nope. It is either "BR E 03" or "BR 103", but never "E 103".

Regards
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Offline steventrain  
#17 Posted : 13 November 2016 09:50:29(UTC)
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E mean Electric.

I change the E103 to BR 103.Sneaky
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Offline Goofy  
#18 Posted : 13 November 2016 14:05:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
It depends by present "vorserie" or "serie".
Nope. It is either "BR E 03" or "BR 103", but never "E 103".



I did present numbers.
If you did copied my post,you see the numbers i did present.
E 03 are vorserie and BR 103.1 are serie.

DCC means Digital Command Control.

Offline H0  
#19 Posted : 13 November 2016 15:43:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
E mean Electric.
In era II/III the leading E indicated electric locos. Beginning with era IV the leading 1 replaced the leading E and E 03 became 103.


Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
E 03 are vorserie and BR 103.1 are serie.
In-consequent use of BR.
I know "BR E 03" and I know "BR 103".

I wrote there weren't any "E 103" and you replied it would depend. Confused
Regards
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Offline vilithejou  
#20 Posted : 16 November 2016 21:43:16(UTC)
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Confirmed

Marklin Insider Model 2017 is BR103.2, the largest version. 103 243-2

You can see it in the MARapp an see the new features:

1.- change the driver with the direction of the loco
2.- Pantos functional
3.- Several sound functions

Joan Vilarrúbia
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Offline steventrain  
#21 Posted : 17 November 2016 11:26:48(UTC)
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Now on marklin website. Also on TV extra (Click to german website)

https://www.maerklin.de/...reditionen/insidermodel/

39170 - 399EUR.

TEE coaches Pack - 43856
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Offline steventrain  
#22 Posted : 17 November 2016 19:02:19(UTC)
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43856 TEE pack came with current-conducting close couplers, LED lighting and one end with tail light - 369.99 EUR.
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Offline steventrain  
#23 Posted : 17 November 2016 19:08:21(UTC)
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For Z gauge - insider 88803 Diesel V 80 DB
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Offline TEEWolf  
#24 Posted : 18 November 2016 00:39:04(UTC)
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Hello everybody,

just visited Märklins hompage and found this new model from November 17th 2016.

Just get more information here

Märlin TV extra #20 about the new E 103

The flyer you find here

2017 1st Insider Model Flyer

Believe it or not: this flyer is in German AND English!Blink What happened to Märklin?Confused Cool
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Offline grnwtrs  
#25 Posted : 18 November 2016 01:02:09(UTC)
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That is sure of a "beaut" of an engine. I have about 3-4 of that series, starting in 1975? Analogue of course!

I guess I better put my order in quickly!
Thanks for the link.

Regards,
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Offline applor  
#26 Posted : 18 November 2016 05:11:15(UTC)
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You mean BR 103.1 - to be technical there was never an E 103 (you mean E03)

Great to see Marklin finally doing it correct to scale and I think the first H0 model that has a driver/figure?
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Offline H0  
#27 Posted : 18 November 2016 08:10:56(UTC)
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Great to see Marklin finally doing it correct to scale and I think the first H0 model that has a driver/figure?
The first H0 model I know with a moving driver figure. Märklin already made the 103 (and others) with static driver figures.

We already have a thread about this loco:
https://www.marklin-user...on--103-243-2#post532443

/* As Tom says, there is another thread about this new model - go there and chinwag */
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Offline steventrain  
#28 Posted : 18 November 2016 16:36:13(UTC)
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TV extra no.20 in English.

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#29 Posted : 18 November 2016 21:13:12(UTC)
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Saw it and the set of coaches at the Koln Messe today. Looks nice.

The coaches seem to have been engineered to be even closer together when on the straight track. Looks very prototypical. The cushioning on the end of the coaches seems to actually touch the adjacent coach while being very slim, not as large as past models have had.

I'll try and take a photo of the coaches tomorrow.

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Offline TEEWolf  
#30 Posted : 18 November 2016 21:37:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
43856 TEE pack came with current-conducting close couplers, LED lighting and one end with tail light - 369.99 EUR.


Hi Steventrain,

is "tail light" the only word in English for the German "Zugschlußleuchte"? Which word do you use in English for a tail light at the end of a coach and/or a complete train? The dict.cc says nothing to this specific terms for a train or railway.

Can I say, it is a "carriage rear light"? Or do you have other specific idomatic expressions in English for these type of lights?

regards

TEEWolf
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Offline Jabez  
#31 Posted : 19 November 2016 01:13:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post

Can I say, it is a "carriage rear light"? Or do you have other specific idomatic expressions in English for these type of lights?
TEEWolf

My two-cents worth is that there is no more specific term as far as I know. They are all generic descriptions, tail light, rear light, tail end light, rear end light, carriage rear light, whatever. Perhaps adding 'red' before 'light' to indicate that its function is warning rather than illumination would make it more specific, but I think all variations are valid. English is often 'looser' than German in this respect.
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#32 Posted : 19 November 2016 01:31:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post
Yes...or even better IMHO , an IC era set with 1st Class and restaurant in TEE colors

That would remind me too painfully of the long-lost days when you could still get a decent meal, decently served instead of airplane plastic rations aboard a train in Europe. Rattling over the rails from Brussels to Paris, good food, good wine, white linen, and who cared if it took an hour or more longer than it does now. A reactionary reminisces.
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Offline steventrain  
#33 Posted : 19 November 2016 09:48:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
43856 TEE pack came with current-conducting close couplers, LED lighting and one end with tail light - 369.99 EUR.


Hi Steventrain,

is "tail light" the only word in English for the German "Zugschlußleuchte"? Which word do you use in English for a tail light at the end of a coach and/or a complete train? The dict.cc says nothing to this specific terms for a train or railway.

Can I say, it is a "carriage rear light"? Or do you have other specific idomatic expressions in English for these type of lights?

regards

TEEWolf


43856 Detail in German.


Vorbild: 5 TEE-Schnellzugwagen unterschiedlicher Bauarten des TEE 32 „Parsifal“, im Einsatz zwischen Hamburg-Altona und Paris Nord über Bremen, Münster, Dortmund, Essen, Köln, Aachen, Liège, Namur und St. Quentin. 1 Großraumwagen Apmz 121, 1 Barwagen ARDmh 105, 1 Speisewagen WRmh 132 und 2 Abteilwagen Avmz 207. Betriebszustand Ende der 1970er Jahre.

Modell: Typspezifisch gestaltete Unterböden und Schürzen. Apmz mit Steildach, schwarzer Schürze, Drehgestellen der Bauart Minden-Deutz, dem Vorbild entsprechend mit Scheibenbremse, Magnetschienenbremse, Schlingerdämpfer und ohne Generator. ARDmh mit Steildach, schwarzer Schürze, mit Drehgestellen der Bauart Minden-Deutz mit Scheibenbremse, Magnetschienenbremse und angesetztem Generator. WRmh mit Steildach, schwarzer Schürze, mit Drehgestellen der Bauart Minden-Deutz mit Scheibenbremse, Magnetschienenbremse und angesetztem Generator. Beide Avmz mit roter Schürze und Fiat-Drehgestellen mit Scheibenbremse, Magnetschienenbremse und Schlingerdämpfer. Alle Wagen mit serienmäßig eingebauter LED-Innenbeleuchtung und trennbaren stromführenden Kupplungen. Beleuchtung mit wartungsfreien warmweißen Leuchtdioden. Schleifer ist montiert. Alle Wagen vorbereitet für Zugschlussbeleuchtung 73407. Ein Avmz mit eingebauter Zugschlussbeleuchtung. Gesamtlänge über Puffer ca. 142 cm.

Das Personenwagenset 43856 wird im Jahr 2017 in einer einmaligen Serie nur für Insider-Mitglieder gefertigt.

Die passende Elektrolokomotive der Baureihe 103.1 wird unter der Artikelnummer 39170 exklusiv nur für Insider-Mitglieder angeboten.Dieses Personenwagenset finden Sie in Gleichstromausführung im Trix H0-Sortiment unter der Artikelnummer 23475 exklusiv für Trix Clubmitglieder.

Alle Wagen mit serienmäßig eingebauter LED Innenbeleuchtung.Trennbare, stromführende Kupplungen.Ein Wagen mit eingebauter Zugschlussbeleuchtung und montiertem Schleifer.
English translate -All of the cars have factory-installed LED Innenbeleuchtung.Trennbare, current-carrying Kupplungen.Ein cars with built-tail lighting and mounted grinder.


TEE „Parsifal“ und 60 Jahre TEEFür den Jahresfahrplan 1957/58 vereinbarten acht europäische Bahnverwaltungen, ein hochwertiges Schnellzugangebot ausschließlich für die 1. Klasse einzuführen – den Trans-Europ-Express (TEE). Nicht alle der anfangs vorgesehenen Verbindungen kamen zum Tragen, doch einigte sich man schließlich auf 13 Zugpaare auf einem Streckennetz mit 5.100 Kilometern. Zehn dieser TEE-Züge mit klangvollen Namen gingen zum Sommerfahrplan ab 2. Juni 1957 in Betrieb: „Rhein-Main“ (Amsterdam – Frankfurt), „Saphir“ (Oostende – Dortmund), „Helvetia“ (Hamburg – Zürich), „Paris-Ruhr“ (Paris – Dortmund), „Edelweiß“ (Amsterdam – Zürich), „Étoile du Nord“ (Paris – Amsterdam), „Oiseau Bleu“ (Paris – Brüssel), „Arbalète“ (Paris – Zürich), „Île de France“ (Paris – Amsterdam) und „Mont Cenis“ (Lyon – Mailand). Hinzu kamen zum Winterfahrplan 1957 die drei restlichen Verbindungen: Eine war der zum 3. Oktober 1957 eingeführte TEE 155/190 „Parsifal“, dem Richard Wagners berühmte Oper über den edlen Ritter „Parsifal“ zu seinem Namen verhalf. Der „Parsifal“ bildete nun von der Fahrplanlage den Gegenzug zum TEE „Paris-Ruhr“. Frühmorgens startete er in Paris Nord, kehrte abends von Dortmund zurück und bediente dazwischen den französischen Halt Maubeuge, die belgischen Stationen Charleroi, Namur, Lüttich, Verviers und Herbesthal und in Deutschland Aachen, Köln und Essen. Dazu kamen noch die TEE „Mediolanum“ (München – Mailand) und „Ligure“ (Marseille – Mailand).Als TEE „Parsifal“ fuhr zunächst ein SNCF Triebwagen der Reihe RGP 825. Mit der Verlängerung des Zuglaufes bis nach Hamburg (952,4 km) zum 29. Mai 1960 übernahm ein sieben- oder achtteiliger DB-Dieseltriebwagen der Baureihe VT 11.5. Zum 29. September 1968 erfolgte nach Fertigstellung der Elektrifizierung auf deutscher Seite die Umstellung des „Parsifal“ in einen lokbespannten Zug. Er bestand nun aus zwei Abteilwagen Avüm, einem Großraumwagen Apüm, einem Speisewagen WRüm und einem Barwagen ARDüm sowie zwischen Aachen und Hamburg verstärkt um je einem weiteren Avüm und Apüm. Auf dem deutschen Abschnitt Aachen/Köln – Hamburg zogen den TEE zunächst Maschinen der Baureihe 112 (E 10.12) und ab 1971 dann die Paradepferde der Bundesbahn – die sechsachsigen Edelrenner der Baureihe 103.1. Zwischen 1969 und 1974 gelangten 145 dieser leistungsstarken Exemplare mit den Nummern 103 101-245 in den DB-Bestand. Konstruktiv waren sie von Anbeginn für eine Geschwindigkeit bis 265 km/h ausgelegt worden, fahren durften sie jedoch maximal 200 km/h. Die 103 mit ihrer eleganten Stromlinienform und dem Siemens-Gummiringfeder-Kardanantrieb war die stärkste deutsche Elektrolok und brachte eine Stundenleistung von 7.780 kW (10.581 PS) auf die Schienen. Doch auch das modernste Zugpferd half nichts mehr, denn mangelnde Auslastung führten mit Ende des Winterfahrplans 1978/79 zur Einstellung des TEE „Parsifal“ und in der nächsten Fahrplanperiode gab es den „Parsifal“ nur noch als zweiklassigen Schnellzug D 434/435 zwischen Köln und Paris.
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Offline danmarklinman  
#34 Posted : 19 November 2016 11:41:37(UTC)
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Hi this is the Parsifal leaving Charleroi-sud
I might just get the coach set.
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#35 Posted : 19 November 2016 13:33:00(UTC)
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I guess they changed loks at the border back then. Cool Peter.
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#36 Posted : 19 November 2016 15:40:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: petestra Go to Quoted Post
I guess they changed loks at the border back then. Cool Peter.


Hi, I would think that the SNCB series 18, would change with the 103 and then run all the way to Paris, with the voltage change taking place at Jeumont on the Belgium 🇧🇪 frontier with France. The loco use to coast through that section bring the pantograph down for the Belgium current and Bring the French 25kv up?
The series 18 ran off German, Belgium and French 25kv, only. Dan
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Offline NS1200  
#37 Posted : 19 November 2016 21:10:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jabez Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post

Can I say, it is a "carriage rear light"? Or do you have other specific idomatic expressions in English for these type of lights?
TEEWolf

My two-cents worth is that there is no more specific term as far as I know. They are all generic descriptions, tail light, rear light, tail end light, rear end light, carriage rear light, whatever. Perhaps adding 'red' before 'light' to indicate that its function is warning rather than illumination would make it more specific, but I think all variations are valid. English is often 'looser' than German in this respect.
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The Dutch word is "sluitlichten",freely translated as "closure lights",meaning the lights at the end of the train.

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Offline Goofy  
#38 Posted : 20 November 2016 08:51:47(UTC)
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I notice in the pdf file,that it stand mSD3 decoder and you can use DCC protocol too with the Märklin locomotive BR 103.
It means i can use Lenz digital plus and Märklin locomotives on the three rail K tracks.
DCC means Digital Command Control.

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#39 Posted : 20 November 2016 11:07:28(UTC)
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[We already have a thread about this loco:
https://www.marklin-user...on--103-243-2#post532443

/* As Tom says, there is another thread about this new model - go there and chinwag */


Merged topics.
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Offline vilithejou  
#40 Posted : 21 November 2016 14:22:30(UTC)
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The 103.1 and "parfisal" are on Insider profil
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Offline steventrain  
#41 Posted : 20 January 2017 12:57:39(UTC)
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Other brand ESU will get new E03 model.
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#42 Posted : 21 January 2017 07:57:15(UTC)
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Other brand ESU will get new E03 model.


I´m in the ESU forum.
Can´t find information.
Where did you found information about ESU E 03?

DCC means Digital Command Control.

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#43 Posted : 21 January 2017 08:49:55(UTC)
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I´m in the ESU forum.
Can´t find information.
Where did you found information about ESU E 03?



http://bfy.tw/9bhe

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#44 Posted : 21 January 2017 09:27:53(UTC)
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http://bfy.tw/9bhe
That finds reference material for ESU 54463 - which is just a sound decoder project, not a loco.

Would be more useful if google could find some information about an E 03 H0 loco by ESU.
Is there some insider information somewhere? Or was there something gained or lost in translation?

Update: Once again it is coming from Stummi's Forum:
http://stummiforum.de/vi...67100880587fd1b#p1642996
Someone saw an add for an ESU E 03 in a digital MRR magazine.
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#45 Posted : 21 January 2017 09:34:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
That finds reference material for ESU 54463 - which is just a sound decoder project, not a loco


Ooops Blink

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#46 Posted : 21 January 2017 09:51:31(UTC)
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Update: Once again it is coming from Stummi's Forum:
http://stummiforum.de/vi...67100880587fd1b#p1642996
Someone saw an add for an ESU E 03 in a digital MRR magazine.


Well I guess if they keep putting these rumours out there, sooner or later they might get one right......

But then, I would expect that by the time they do get it right everyone will have got tired of it all and will ignore it.
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#47 Posted : 21 January 2017 19:54:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: petestra Go to Quoted Post
I guess they changed loks at the border back then. Cool Peter.


Hi, I would think that the SNCB series 18, would change with the 103 and then run all the way to Paris, with the voltage change taking place at Jeumont on the Belgium 🇧🇪 frontier with France. The loco use to coast through that section bring the pantograph down for the Belgium current and Bring the French 25kv up?
The series 18 ran off German, Belgium and French 25kv, only. Dan


Actually the SNCB Class 18 and the close relative CC SNCF 40100 were multi-system loco and were running the train from Paris to Dortmund without change of motive power

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#48 Posted : 21 January 2017 21:51:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: petestra Go to Quoted Post
I guess they changed loks at the border back then. Cool Peter.


Hi, I would think that the SNCB series 18, would change with the 103 and then run all the way to Paris, with the voltage change taking place at Jeumont on the Belgium 🇧🇪 frontier with France. The loco use to coast through that section bring the pantograph down for the Belgium current and Bring the French 25kv up?
The series 18 ran off German, Belgium and French 25kv, only. Dan


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#49 Posted : 23 January 2017 22:03:45(UTC)
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Do folks purchase these insider locos to use on their layouts or for collecting/display?

The BR 103 is firmly in the middle of my layout era and memories and a key component to my train world. I debated long in my mind about whether to sign up to the insider program so that I could order one of these. At this point I've convinced myself its not worth the cost.

Yes, the pop-up loco engineer is cool, but in the end, what would I get from 39170 that I cannot get from the 37576 and is that worth the additional cost. The math just didn't make sense to have one loco with special whizbangs that the rest of the fleet doesn't have. Signed certificate - does one need that really? Seems like a cheap add on to make folks feel better about the price (since the part number itself is already enough to indicate its an insider exclusive.

Clearly, I'm not the target audience of these sorts of products, but I still wonder, do folks buy these and run them day to day?
Is there a reason I missed, one that should cause me to change my mind, sign up for the club and order the insider model?
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#50 Posted : 23 January 2017 22:16:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Minok Go to Quoted Post
Do folks purchase these insider locos to use on their layouts or for collecting/display?

The BR 103 is firmly in the middle of my layout era and memories and a key component to my train world. I debated long in my mind about whether to sign up to the insider program so that I could order one of these. At this point I've convinced myself its not worth the cost.

Yes, the pop-up loco engineer is cool, but in the end, what would I get from 39170 that I cannot get from the 37576 and is that worth the additional cost. The math just didn't make sense to have one loco with special whizbangs that the rest of the fleet doesn't have. Signed certificate - does one need that really? Seems like a cheap add on to make folks feel better about the price (since the part number itself is already enough to indicate its an insider exclusive.

Clearly, I'm not the target audience of these sorts of products, but I still wonder, do folks buy these and run them day to day?
Is there a reason I missed, one that should cause me to change my mind, sign up for the club and order the insider model?


Well I have the 37576 and love it. I've always been a fan of the BR103 and this new Insider model will be my 4th one with the old 3053 & 3054

which I had digitalized last year. I'm really looking forward to the new model. I love the fact that it's the long version and the Lok driver and auto

pantographs just add to the fun of owning it. BTW, As a Märklin operator/collector I can say I run all my Loks. Peter.Cool
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