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39567 E-Lok Ce 6/8 II (Krokodil) for Insider 2018 See image >MMC LINK<Edited by user 24 August 2018 14:36:57(UTC)
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That is an interesting choice of model.
It aligns with Marklin's stated intention of producing museum examples.
I believe the one remaining BR65 is running in Holland.
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There is one remaining DB BR 65, the one in the Netherlands, but there are three remaining DR BR 65. Wikipedia dixit.
I saw one of them, the DR 65 1049-9 in the Arnstadt BBW in 2014.
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There are two types of BR 65 : one is a Neubau of the DB and the other one, the BR 65.10 belonged to the DR.
The BR 65 018 is the only preserved from the DB, whilst the BR 65 1049-9 is effectively in the Arnstadt BW.
They are 142, but that's their only similarity.
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OK, so what is the wagon set to go with it/
Goods wagons?
Coaches?
Mixed train?
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I have read reports on the BR65 in use for local and commuter trains south of Frankfurt.
They were very sure-footed and could accelerate faster than the new diesels.
I guess these might have been the V100 or V90.
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Originally Posted by: steventrain  OK, thanks. looks like we might end up with more coaches then.
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The DB 65 018 is part of the collection of the SSN in Rotterdam Some pictures of the BR 65 018    The BR 65 was used for passenger trains, but as usual, also for other duties. If it's the BR 65, Märklin has chosen three tenderlocomotives as an insider model in the last years. We will see |
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Yet another crocodile !!!
I think it is not for me. I lack much other loco types to buy one more crocodile. I already have 4 in H0, Märklin, and 1 in N, Minitrix, and it is enough. Don't tell me that this one is different, it is too much similar to the ones I've.
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Originally Posted by: steventrain 39567 E-Lok Ce 6/8 II (Krokodil) for Insider 2018 See image >MMC LINK< Looks like I will have to become in Insider member this year I do not have any Kroks yet so this is perfect for me! David
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Insider 46567 Freight Car Set for 39567 , No image at present. |
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Interesting model but not my era... I'm afraid I'll pass this time. |
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Yes but probably not for me. I have more crocs than you can find in Australia's outbacks The freight cars set.. maybe.  |
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Originally Posted by: vilithejou Yes but probably not for me. I have more crocs than you can find in Australia's outbacks The freight cars set.. maybe. Agreed- the freight car set has me more interested! |
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One for me, please  It is a woderfull lok ! ! ! |
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Not for me, I buy only steamers. |
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Originally Posted by: pab Not for me, I buy only steamers. That's what I used to say... then I bought my first Crocodile
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Originally Posted by: AmalfiCoast I do not have any Kroks yet so this is perfect for me! I hope you realise that this is a model of the 'Rangier-Krokodil' or Shunting Crocodile. After the Crocodiles were withdrawn from general use, the SBB converted some of the Crocodiles to be used in the Basel shunting yards as shunting locomotives. Hence the reason why there is only one pantograph, and why there are platforms at both ends on this loco. 
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: AmalfiCoast I do not have any Kroks yet so this is perfect for me! I hope you realise that this is a model of the 'Rangier-Krokodil' or Shunting Crocodile. After the Crocodiles were withdrawn from general use, the SBB converted some of the Crocodiles to be used in the Basel shunting yards as shunting locomotives. Hence the reason why there is only one pantograph, and why there are platforms at both ends on this loco. Ah, thanks - no I did not realize that. Something to think about I guess. David
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I'll be getting one. Love the crocodiles and this is
New variant. A crocodile to shunt cars for the mainline crocodiles.;)
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A problem less for my wallet this year.I will not buy the insider model.
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: AmalfiCoast I do not have any Kroks yet so this is perfect for me! I hope you realise that this is a model of the 'Rangier-Krokodil' or Shunting Crocodile. After the Crocodiles were withdrawn from general use, the SBB converted some of the Crocodiles to be used in the Basel shunting yards as shunting locomotives. Hence the reason why there is only one pantograph, and why there are platforms at both ends on this loco. Yes I realized that it's the "Rangier-krok"....But now I looked closer...it has telex couplers fitted!! Oh sh.t!! Thanks for helping me spend some more money! Cheers |
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I would have preferred the Br65! |
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I would have gone with the BR 65 as well. As part of a rationalisation I will be disposing of most of my Swiss models.
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Thanks for helping me spend some more money! My pleasure Jacques! Happy to help you spend your money anytime you like!
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz (...) the SBB converted some of the Crocodiles to be used in the Basel shunting yards as shunting locomotives (...) ...yes, Basel plus Biel/Bienne, Buchs/SG, Lausanne, St-Triphon, Winterthur - marshalling yards with "humps" where the freight vans were distributed into their individual destination tracks. Thus the model can preferably be used for shunting long trains. I wonder whether Marklin will incorporate all modifications that were applied to the prototypes - for instance the large "compressor thingy" or whatever it was under the center section of the engine: http://igschieneschweiz....-praesentiert-361706.jpg
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz (...) the SBB converted some of the Crocodiles to be used in the Basel shunting yards as shunting locomotives (...) ...yes, Basel plus Biel/Bienne, Buchs/SG, Lausanne, St-Triphon, Winterthur - marshalling yards with "humps" where the freight vans were distributed into their individual destination tracks. Thus the model can preferably be used for shunting long trains. I wonder whether Marklin will incorporate all modifications that were applied to the prototypes - for instance the large "compressor thingy" or whatever it was under the center section of the engine: http://igschieneschweiz....-praesentiert-361706.jpg I think that detail is there: http://meisesmobacenter....kodil--Insider-2018.html |
Ray
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Ooooh yummy, comes with a shunter to travel on the end plate as well.
I'm guessing the third picture on the Meisesmobacenter web site will be the December wallpaper picture ...
Don't like the 'artificial' sparks between the pantograph and overhead though.
The description of the wagon set sounds an interesting mix. (available 3rd Q, loco 2nd Q)
Google translation (looks like it did a not bad job) ...
"5 freight cars of different types. Of these, 3 cars of the Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) and a pair of car transporters of the German Federal Railways (DB). 1 Ebis high-side wagon, 1 Gbs covered freight wagon, 1 Hbck covered freight wagon and 1 Laaes 541 car transport wagon pair. All wagons in operation at the end of the 1970s."
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz (...) the SBB converted some of the Crocodiles to be used in the Basel shunting yards as shunting locomotives (...) ...yes, Basel plus Biel/Bienne, Buchs/SG, Lausanne, St-Triphon, Winterthur - marshalling yards with "humps" where the freight vans were distributed into their individual destination tracks. Thus the model can preferably be used for shunting long trains. I wonder whether Marklin will incorporate all modifications that were applied to the prototypes - for instance the large "compressor thingy" or whatever it was under the center section of the engine: http://igschieneschweiz....-praesentiert-361706.jpg Hello Stefan FYI, "The compressor thingy" was an improved extra ventilation system needed to perform shunting jobs where repeated full load start/stop events required for these duties. |
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This one 39567 was on Rumour list last January 2016!
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Originally Posted by: steventrain This one 39567 was on Rumour list last January 2016!
Marklin have previously released this model in 1 Gauge - 5558 
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very, very nice.
I am envious.
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I log in Insider club website and 39567 and 46567 was showing on profile.
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Originally Posted by: steventrain I log in Insider club website and 39567 and 46567 was showing on profile.
They were also on the Lokshop website yesterday.
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Insider news 06/2017 aviable on Marklin Club membership |
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46567 Freight pack for crocodile.
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Originally Posted by: AmalfiCoast Originally Posted by: steventrain 39567 E-Lok Ce 6/8 II (Krokodil) for Insider 2018 See image >MMC LINK< Looks like I will have to become in Insider member this year I do not have any Kroks yet so this is perfect for me! David Oh yeah David, you absolutely have to have some Kroks IMO - They are amazing machines and this should be an excellent one to represent the class in your collection. I have three already and I will have to think about whether I can justify adding another one. If it is cool enough in detail and technoligy I might consider it, but my double set of Kroks are beautiful and nicely functioned, even though they were made in 2014. |
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I am really keen on this one.. I just need to get rid of six more locos before I can place the order..  |
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Roco produced one like this years ago but I never bought it., its still a crocodile with one less pantograph. |
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Originally Posted by: vilithejou Yes but probably not for me. I have more crocs than you can find in Australia's outbacks The freight cars set.. maybe. Jacques I have to correct you here; I have more crocs than you can find in Australia's outback: crocs in Australia's outback will find you  John |
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Yes, I've got a green one and a brown one. That's it for me although I do love them. I have 6 DB/Obb crocs too. A nice little farm. Peter. 
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Originally Posted by: xxup I am really keen on this one.. I just need to get rid of six more locos before I can place the order.. Don't worry It will take extra time, The Order deadline is 30 April 2018. |
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Roco produced one like this years ago but I never bought it., its still a crocodile with one less pantograph. That is how I see it too, although it is a very nice croc with lots of cool features for someone who does not have one already. I would not buy it just because of the museum connection and the missing pantograph however. The three that I have now will do me just fine and give my budget a chance to catch up after a very busy Märklin collecting year! |
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I was an Insider member for some years, however I considered information received to be a little old, and I was never attracted to the Insider Models. And now this Krok...  moving panto, telex, sound etc. I have a brown Mä 39561, without any of these features. Conclusion: The Mä 39567 is a must have! And ”next year” is always a new year from a financial point of view. I just purchased an Insider Order Form on eBay.de. (1) Can I just leave the form to any Märklin shop? (2) Are there different prices on Insider Models, in different shops? Edited by user 12 December 2017 13:53:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PeFu I was an Insider member for some years, however I considered information received to be a little old, and I was never attracted to the Insider Models. And now this Krok... moving panto, telex, sound etc. I have a brown Mä 39561, without any of these features. Conclusion: The Mä 39567 is a must have! And ”next year” is always a new year from a financisl point of view. I just purchased an Insider Order Form on eBay.de. (1) Can I just leave the form to any Märklin shop? (2) Are there different prices on Insider Models, in different shops? I love the 39561 model as well. I just joined the Insider Club last week and I'm still waiting for my welcome package or other materials. I don't have any Kroks so far so this might be a good place to start. David
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