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Offline steventrain  
#1 Posted : 27 June 2017 21:35:43(UTC)
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Insider 43856 TEE pack will be out next month so I am looking for a extra coaches (2-3 extra coaches) to add matching 43856 TEE pack.

Thanks.

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Offline TEEWolf  
#2 Posted : 04 July 2017 22:18:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Insider 43856 TEE pack will be out next month so I am looking for a extra coaches (2-3 extra coaches) to add matching 43856 TEE pack.

Thanks.


Found a few coaches. Please have a look here

https://estore-sslserver...5f08b03b/Products/26557-

or here

https://estore-sslserver...15f08b03b/Products/43853

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Offline steventrain  
#3 Posted : 04 July 2017 22:53:17(UTC)
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thanks.

But looking for grey roof.
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Offline TEEWolf  
#4 Posted : 05 July 2017 01:48:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
thanks.

But looking for grey roof.


Ah I understand. What do you think about these offers?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/l...682448130&rmvSB=true

https://www.google.de/sh...XhBsAKHXwJAyMQ8wIIqQMwAQ

https://www.hood.de/i/ma...47-4288-ovp-68498117.htm

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Offline TEEWolf  
#5 Posted : 06 July 2017 03:53:33(UTC)
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Hi Steven,

by accident I found these new TEE-coaches from Piko.

http://www.piko-shop.de/...ppe_id=0&x=0&y=0

I do not know, if you like Piko. But I do not know, if the colours from Piko are the same as the ones at Maerklin coaches. In other words: if you use both coaches in one train, do you see a difference in the colour?

Anyhow - do you think their grey roof will fit into the Maerklin insider train set too?

I am thinking to add to my Parsifal insider train another dining car with a pantograph.

regards

TEEWolf
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Offline applor  
#6 Posted : 06 July 2017 05:58:58(UTC)
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You would notice the length difference. The PIKO coaches would be correct 1:87 scale, ie 303mm
Marklin only make 1:93.5 for UIC coaches so they can navigate R1 curves.
modelling 1954 Germany (era IIIa)
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#7 Posted : 17 July 2017 20:51:50(UTC)
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Hi Steven, i came across a 42993 set, it is not TEE but they are in red/beige livery with grey roof, if the color match perhaps it will runs nice with the Parsifal set, i would be interested too but i think one needs to see them in the real to know.
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Offline steventrain  
#8 Posted : 17 July 2017 22:46:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: franciscohg Go to Quoted Post
Hi Steven, i came across a 42993 set, it is not TEE but they are in red/beige livery with grey roof, if the color match perhaps it will runs nice with the Parsifal set, i would be interested too but i think one needs to see them in the real to know.



I have it but looking for new length approx 285mm.
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Offline franciscohg  
#9 Posted : 17 July 2017 22:56:13(UTC)
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Hi, i came into that detail also, in the description they only say the lenght of the full consist, they are just a couple of mm short. Perhaps when your Parsifal arrives you could check and told usLOL
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Offline H0  
#10 Posted : 17 July 2017 22:57:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: applor Go to Quoted Post
You would notice the length difference. The PIKO coaches would be correct 1:87 scale, ie 303mm
Marklin only make 1:93.5 for UIC coaches so they can navigate R1 curves.
The Piko coaches are 1:87, so they are 303 mm or 316 mm long.
The Märklin coaches are 282 or 283 mm long, so they are 1:93.5 or 1:97 - up to 33 mm too short.

The Piko coaches can take R1 curves, that is no problem. They may collide with bridges, signal masts or catenary masts. Märklin coaches have reduced width to avoid those issues.
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Offline mike c  
#11 Posted : 18 July 2017 05:01:14(UTC)
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The TEE coaches were available in the following sets:

26540 TEE Rheinpfeil
26557 TEE Bavaria (Re 4/4I plus SBB WRm)

00776 TEE "Blauer Enzian" (12 Cars)
43853 TEE "Helvetia" Set 1
43854 TEE "Helvetia" Set 2
43859 TEE "Bavaria" Set with DB ARDümh (no Lok) (as operated for a few months in 1971)
43855 Avümh111 (add-on for 26540)
43865 Apümh121 (add-on for 26540)
43866 WRümh132 (Helvetia) (Set 3)

Trix
23477 TEE Roland (12 Cars)
21238 (see 26557)
23421 Avümh111 (single coaches same as 26540 possible different numbers)
23422 Apümh121
23423 ADümh101
23424 WRümh131
23425 Avümh111 (same as 43855 possible different number)
23427 TEE "Bavaria" same as 43859

The Parsifal Set (43856/Trix 23475) is to be released soon.
I don't know whether the Maerklin and Trix sets will have the same coach numbers

The description shows a pair of Avmz207, a single Apmz121, a WRmz132 and ARDmh105. The Apmz, WRmz and ARDmh have black skirts, the Avmz have red skirts.
If you are looking for coaches that you could add to this consist, the most suitable would be the Apmz121 from the 43858 (Steildach) or the 43307 Avmz207. The problem is that both of those coaches would likely have revision dates from the mid-80s, which would not fit with the late 1970s "Parsifal". The remaining option would be the Avümh111 from the 43859 or 26557 "Bavaria" Sets, both of which would have early 1970s revision dates and livery.

The actual consist should be as listed here:
http://www.welt-der-mode...hn.com/tee-parsifal.html
http://www.welt-der-mode...4265436/tee_parsifal.pdf
http://www.welt-der-mode...4265436/parsifal_all.pdf

Some of the coaches ran from Hamburg to Paris. Others were limited to Aachen to Paris or Hamburg to Aachen. (See PDFs for details)

As far as I know, all of the 28cm TEE/IC coaches from Maerklin have been produced with destination signs for assorted routes. Your last option may be to buy two sets and keep the additional coaches to extend your train as desired. Maybe you could apply new coach numbers and car numbers.
From what I can tell, a 6 coach train would be prototypical for the segment Hamburg-Aachen. On weekends, the train would run Hmb-Aachen with only 5 coaches and receive a 6th in Aachen. The segment Aachen to Paris and back would also be 6 coaches, so the set could also be used for the French or Belgian sections. This set represents the train as it appeared in late 1978 and early 1979.

Regards

Mike C

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Offline steventrain  
#12 Posted : 25 July 2017 21:59:42(UTC)
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I receive email that 43856 is on way from lokshop tomorrow, Hopefully arrive after weekend.
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Offline franciscohg  
#13 Posted : 25 July 2017 23:15:31(UTC)
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Great!!!!!! No mail for me yet.....and my 103 still waiting for customs clearance....Cursing
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Offline dickinsonj  
#14 Posted : 26 July 2017 01:32:48(UTC)
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Great!!!!!! No mail for me yet.....and my 103 still waiting for customs clearance....Cursing

I am eagerly awaiting my 103 and Parsifal coaches, but no notice yet on mine. I am guessing that it will at least be several weeks until I get it. That makes threads like this really great. They help to distract me, while I wait for the real thing. BigGrin

The anticipation builds. Cool
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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#15 Posted : 26 July 2017 14:31:45(UTC)
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My 103 coming from the same place and now in transit so hopefully here by the end of the week. No news on Parsifal.
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Offline franciscohg  
#16 Posted : 26 July 2017 16:04:12(UTC)
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Got my mail todayWoot
So, about 4 more weeks to get itSad
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Offline Minok  
#17 Posted : 26 July 2017 21:00:22(UTC)
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I pinged Marklin USA and they indicated the US side dealers will be getting their shipments in August.. so I'll hopefully finally see my 103 in 3 weeks or so.
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Offline TEEWolf  
#18 Posted : 26 July 2017 21:38:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: twmarklinfan Go to Quoted Post
My 103 coming from the same place and now in transit so hopefully here by the end of the week. No news on Parsifal.


Oh, no news on Parsifal? Perhaps I may help you. Blink

The Bayreuth Festival just started and tomorrow, July 26th, 16:00 they perform with Parsifal.Flapper Laugh Cool

https://www.bayreuther-f...ramme/schedule/parsifal/

and a brand new info: PARSIFAL is available on Blu-Ray and DVD from July, 21st. It also will turn around in a circle! Perhaps the sound might be a better one. ThumpUp

https://www.bayreuther-f...ay-and-dvd-from-21-july/

enjoy it.BigGrin Wink

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Offline TEEWolf  
#19 Posted : 26 July 2017 22:19:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: applor Go to Quoted Post
You would notice the length difference. The PIKO coaches would be correct 1:87 scale, ie 303mm
Marklin only make 1:93.5 for UIC coaches so they can navigate R1 curves.


Thank you applor for your hint. I was not aware about PIKOs scale. Then of course it does not make sense to me to buy it.

Particularly I just got my tin plate Rheingold in beige/blue, which has a 1:100 scale. This is absolutely fine to me, because from my teenager time, I still remain a Rheingold as a tin plate train in beige/red, which is also 1:100 scale. 50 years ago I built by myself a current collector on the last wagon of this train and now I am looking for a similar coach in the 1:93.5 scale.
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Offline H0  
#20 Posted : 27 July 2017 08:13:39(UTC)
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Particularly I just got my tin plate Rheingold in beige/blue, which has a 1:100 scale.
The Märklin tin-plate Rheingold is 1:87 (era II) or 1:110 (era III, each coach too short by 63 mm or about 2.5 inches), but not 1:100.

Nice contrast to have coaches in 1:87 from era II and era III as it shows the progress in prototype lengths and the correct proportions between locos and coaches.
Regards
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Offline AmalfiCoast  
#21 Posted : 27 July 2017 16:29:56(UTC)
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Hi Tom,

Would you mind expanding on your last comment? Which coaches are the era II and which are era III? What is Marklin's reason for using different scales? I have this set but have not had a chance to run it yet. I have run the 30390 loco, which is beautiful.

Thanks,
David
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#22 Posted : 27 July 2017 16:52:31(UTC)
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Would you mind expanding on your last comment?
The coaches in the Parsifal set are shortened by up to 33 mm (as mentioned earlier in this thread) while the loco has full length.

See these old posts for discussions about different length scales (there are many more on this site):
https://www.marklin-user...eal-life--1-1#post488010
https://www.marklin-user...Scale-Mystery#post301761

Originally Posted by: AmalfiCoast Go to Quoted Post
Which coaches are the era II and which are era III?
Era II: 4228 and 4228x, also available in 26xxx sets with steam loco.

Originally Posted by: AmalfiCoast Go to Quoted Post
What is Marklin's reason for using different scales?
Historic reasons. People who built their layouts for shortened coaches now have problems with scale models.

To get coaches through bridges and past signal and catenary masts, Märklin limit the coaches of the Parsifal set to 283 mm length instead of the full scale length of 316 mm, so you get 1:97 instead of 1:87.
Shorter prototypes are nowadays made in 1:87. Longer prototypes are either made at reduced length or at full length (292 mm or 303 mm) but with problems at bridges etc.
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Offline AmalfiCoast  
#23 Posted : 27 July 2017 18:20:18(UTC)
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Hi Tom,

Thanks for your detailed response. I must have misunderstood because I thought we were talking about the 40850 Rheingold Tin-Plate set.

But now I do understand why the scales vary, so thank you.

David
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#24 Posted : 27 July 2017 19:10:32(UTC)
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I must have misunderstood because I thought we were talking about the 40850 Rheingold Tin-Plate set.
I think TEEWolf spake about the 40850 set - but it is 1:110, not 1:100 as he wrote.

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Offline Minok  
#25 Posted : 27 July 2017 19:18:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: AmalfiCoast Go to Quoted Post
I must have misunderstood because I thought we were talking about the 40850 Rheingold Tin-Plate set.
I think TEEWolf spake about the 40850 set - but it is 1:110, not 1:100 as he wrote.



And oddly enough there isn't any indication of the length scaling in the typical iconography at the end of the listing 40850 one would expect ( 1:110 or whatever).
So with Märklin one must do one's own maths to compute the length scale if it matters to you.

Edited by user 28 July 2017 17:08:41(UTC)  | Reason: Spelling correction

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#26 Posted : 28 July 2017 08:06:29(UTC)
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So with Märklin one must do one's own maths to compute the length scale if it matters to you.
You have to make the calculation even if there is a length-scale icon in the product description.

With the Parsifal set, the icon only applies to 60% of the coaches. With other sets it is 100% wrong.
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#27 Posted : 28 July 2017 21:39:27(UTC)
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Image of 43856 on ebay.de

>EBAY<

Nice package lid.
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#28 Posted : 29 July 2017 00:52:28(UTC)
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I was reading in one of the German forums that this set comes equipped with a new type of current conducting close couplers. I would be interested in seeing a close up photo with detail to see how it compares the the 72020 type and to the standard 7203 coupler head.

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#29 Posted : 29 July 2017 22:07:16(UTC)
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Image of 43856 on ebay.de

>EBAY<

Nice package lid.


Yes, Marklin do seem to have been putting some effort into the packaging of the Insider products.

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#30 Posted : 30 July 2017 10:38:46(UTC)
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I was reading in one of the German forums that this set comes equipped with a new type of current conducting close couplers. I would be interested in seeing a close up photo with detail to see how it compares the the 72020 type and to the standard 7203 coupler head.

Regards

Mike C


I will try to post pictures when arrive.

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#31 Posted : 30 July 2017 19:46:13(UTC)
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Will they be automatically decoupleable? That's what would interest me most.
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#32 Posted : 31 July 2017 14:34:17(UTC)
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Arrive today.

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#33 Posted : 31 July 2017 14:38:35(UTC)
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The issue is derailment on curved 1st radius. The coupling bent up to hit and stuck with buffers on curved tracks.

I decide to bend coupling down and avoid buffers and I try on curved and no derailment.

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#34 Posted : 31 July 2017 19:41:27(UTC)
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So it looks to me the current conducting coupler (CCC) on the set are the same as the existing Märklin CCC design. Or is there some visible difference?

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Offline GlennM  
#35 Posted : 01 August 2017 01:01:15(UTC)
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Very nice looking set Stephen ThumpUp ThumpUp

I have not looked at this set in any detail as I have quite a few TEE coach sets and feel I don't need another, but is there anything new with this offering (other than lights and conductor couplings which feature on many of the other sets)?
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#36 Posted : 21 August 2017 16:17:59(UTC)
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Hi, my Parsifañ arrived today, it is a nice set and run well just out of the box with no derailments in my test oval, C track with R1 and R2.
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#37 Posted : 25 August 2017 00:58:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Minok Go to Quoted Post
Will they be automatically decoupleable? That's what would interest me most.


I received my insider package (103.1 and 5 coaches) completly too. No problem with all 5 coaches and still no derailing or decoupling recognized yet. I have two spots in my layout wheras I do have derailings quite often, but no decoupling. But with my new Parsifal no problems occured yet. The complete train is running very smoothly, like my Lufthansa Airport Express with the 103.
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#38 Posted : 25 August 2017 01:49:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Minok Go to Quoted Post
Will they be automatically decoupleable? That's what would interest me most.


I received my insider package (103.1 and 5 coaches) completly too. No problem with all 5 coaches and still no derailing or decoupling recognized yet. I have two spots in my layout wheras I do have derailings quite often, but no decoupling. But with my new Parsifal no problems occured yet. The complete train is running very smoothly, like my Lufthansa Airport Express with the 103.



So if one used an electronic decoupled track the cars would be decoupale from the locomotive, yes? That is more what I'm interested in, that the Märklin coupler redesign didn't mess up the ability to decouple on track.
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Offline franciscohg  
#39 Posted : 25 August 2017 03:12:51(UTC)
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My experience with RTS design couplers is not very good as for uncoupling, it is a hard thing to do.
Those new couplers couple and uncouple far more easy IMHO
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Offline Minok  
#40 Posted : 25 August 2017 04:03:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: franciscohg Go to Quoted Post
My experience with RTS design couplers is not very good as for uncoupling, it is a hard thing to do.
Those new couplers couple and uncouple far more easy IMHO


Awesome.
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Offline steventrain  
#41 Posted : 25 August 2017 17:21:26(UTC)
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No derailment on oval of tracks 1st/2nd radius but issue on crossover/1st radius curved go left and right.

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