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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
<br />I confess I did it (some day I'll tell Wife so ya better don't tell her first ... [}:)])
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Will post a family picture next week ...
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by almagik
<br />1) Swiss Crocodile pulling passenger coaches
2) more new images ad 1) Very interesting ... cool link - you're a never ending source of knowledge and information  ad 2) Hey, Alberto - you're presenting us with beautyful new pictures almost faster than we can download and print 'em  ... nice double-header, too - mille grazie [:p] John |
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Nice crocs,
But what about another real croc...the Seetal croc?
I don't see how a croc family can be complete without teh baby of the family. You have the parents, you have some relatives who moved to another country....
John
ps I recently picked up a digital 8/14 on ebay. Wow! Not technically a croc but has the same attitude. Maybe a distant relative!
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I think the 8/14 counts as a DinoCroc.[:o)]
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Seetal
<br />I don't see how a croc family can be complete without the baby of the family John - Baby Croc is included in the subject, now. All we need is some nice pics ... Best Regards, John |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by McLae
<br />I think the 8/14 counts as a DinoCroc [:o)] Me, too. Alas, used all that subject space for the other Gators - nothing left ... [B)] |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Seetal
<br />I don't see how a croc family can be complete without the baby of the family John - Baby Croc is included in the subject, now. All we need is some nice pics ... ........ Here is a quick photo:  |
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<font face="Comic Sans MS] That's a very interesting site! Thanx!! As for crocs: I only collect '60s stuff and I can't afford a genuine '60s Märklin croc. So all I have that resembles a croc is a pretty standard 3022 that I managed to buy 3 or 4 years ago for € 75,=. See image.
One day, I'm going to buy me a nice 3015, but not just yet.
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Hi Tony e Oscar, thanks for your very good pics . Here my 3015 running on a vintage layout built by Mr. Casini.   Listen to its original sound in this video [:p] (2,5 Mb) http://www.marklinfan.net/Pini/Pini2.wmv |
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Great pictures and video,i am very impressive![:p] |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />Great pictures and video,i am very impressive![:p]
Hi Alberto, thanks for great pics!! Just love the 3015/CCS800 as I think we all do. My two are packed away for now[:(][:(][:(] |
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That vintage lay-out is wonderful! There is some naive charm about the typical Märklin lay-outs of that era . I have a simple diorama that I built in vintage style. As for a full lay-out or a next diorama, I'm still deciding whether or not to become a bit more realistic.
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Have a look at my 39223  Edited by moderator 11 January 2011 21:37:34(UTC)
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The first and smallest Crocodile was E71 (according to German MRR magazine MIBA). |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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E254 (#3335)  |
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I'm gonna get lynched for this, but I don't have a single croc, never had one either, in any scale...
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It's never too late for a start ... |
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[:0][:0] Cannot believe it [:0][:0] Plans to have one at least? Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by viragoLDR
<br />I'm gonna get lynched for this, but I don't have a single croc, never had one either, in any scale...
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First 'Gator, first 'Croc, first Kiss... After the first, your pocket will be Sooo empty.[:o)] And your smile so large! [:I] |
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Francisco : not really planning on it no.. Not in H0 anyway, maybe in Z, because my current Z loco is a swiss re460..
I'm much more into steamers, the older the better, and the Japanese Shinkansen trains... For some reason I love those, especially the Nozomi 500 (http://home.earthlink.net/~ajeans2/japan/series500_2.jpg)
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What year is the production of E254 (#3335)? |
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Steven, for being quite a scarce E94 variant M made her over a relatively long period of time: 1993 - 1998
And there was also a DC cousin: HAMO #8335
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Thanks for the quick reply,Yes it was quite scarce one. |
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Martijn,
I know what you mean about the Shinkansen trains....they are very distinctive and a wonderful marriage of form and function much like the Crocs. And they have a wide range of shapes much like the Crocs. Whle I do not have any models (I don't run Z scale thoufhthe Kato models look fun) my son has a couple of pajama sets, Shinkansen is a branded line of clothes for kids in Japan. And to get the topic back on Crocs, maybe there should be some Croc-Wear.
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Hi, Would you say that the GG-1 is a gator, too ? Shure, the american version of the gator. Well, when I saw this lok for the first time I was afraid to be eaten up. Finally it ate my wallet only, so I am lucky. BTW, you find almost all PRR gators here http://www.davesrailpix.com/prr/bvpr.htmIt was difficult to ban the special green of the GG-1 on my digital cam. See what I've got.  Hans Martin
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hmsfix: I saw this model a few days ago, it's a wonderful loco. Congrats. Also thanks for this great topic =)
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GG-1 is nice, but I don't really consider it a croc since it is not articulated. |
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Congrats hmsfix,Very nice GG-1 |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Seetal
<br />Martijn,
I know what you mean about the Shinkansen trains....they are very distinctive and a wonderful marriage of form and function much like the Crocs. And they have a wide range of shapes much like the Crocs. Whle I do not have any models (I don't run Z scale thoufhthe Kato models look fun) my son has a couple of pajama sets, Shinkansen is a branded line of clothes for kids in Japan. And to get the topic back on Crocs, maybe there should be some Croc-Wear.
John
I know of several brands that have shinkansen, but not in Z scale. I've seen them in N scale though (I still have a bunch of that stuff as well), and several in H0 as well. As for the croc, my H0 layout I'm planning to make late 19th early 20th century bavarian, so the croc won't fit there. However, I might very well go for something more fitting with Z (if I either don't have room for H0, or room enough for both), something like era IV-V DB/SBB.. We'll see what happens ;) |
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Beautyful picture, Hans Martin ! Thanks also for that link ! BTW - articulated or not articulated: GG-1 is the American Gator. Since she's our one and only ... [:o)] |
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I see the new 37522 (Green Seetal Croc) is finally available.
Got to have that [:p] so placed another order today - Man it never ends!!![B)][B)][B)]
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Quote:quote:Originally posted by Tony
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I see the new 37522 (Green Seetal Croc) is finally available.
Got to have that [:p] so placed [size=2]another order today - Man it never ends!!![B)][B)][B)]
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<br />Man it never ends!!![B)][B)][B)] Tony: Can't buy any additional locos by now since my layout's parking space is filled to the line [xx(] Only solution: Another level up [:p]. Perhaps [}:)]. Wife will kill me [:o)] !!! |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tony
<br />Man it never ends!!![B)][B)][B)] Tony: Can't buy any additional locos by now since my layout's parking space is filled to the line [xx(] Only solution: Another level up [:p]. Perhaps [}:)]. Wife will kill me [:o)] !!! Hi John , with your layout the ceiling is the limit and I am sure you can pack a whole heap of layers in to accommodate many more locos!! Just have to invest in a step ladder My problem is that I have this "deal" with my wife: Whatever I spend on M she gets in cash[:0][:0] So although she doesn't mind me ordering and ordering - I slowly go broke - And the LokShop tells her exactly what I buy - thanks to their brilliant Autostatus - gives it away all the time[:0] Oh well at least we keep it in the family [^][^] |
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And the LokShop tells her exactly what I buy - thanks to their brilliant Autostatus - gives it away all the time
Well, if your wife uses MS Outlook to download email, you can always sneak in a "Rule" to automatically delete those sneaky emails ! Just select "Tools" in the menu bar and choose the "Rules Wizard" entry..... Luis
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Tony<br />Hi John, with your layout the ceiling is the limit and I am sure you can pack a whole heap of layers in to accommodate many more locos!! Just have to invest in a step ladder Hi Tony - sounds kind of a layout tree, huh ?! |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by laalves<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tony
And the LokShop tells her exactly what I buy - thanks to their brilliant Autostatus - gives it away all the time
Well, if your wife uses MS Outlook to download email, you can always sneak in a "Rule" to automatically delete those sneaky emails ! Just select "Tools" in the menu bar and choose the "Rules Wizard" entry..... Luis You know Luis - I had set all those up in the rules (Payment@lokshop.de, Autostatus@lokshop.de, Autoreminder and mail@lokshop..., etc) but they don't always work - You know Outlook!! Anyway it is probably best that my wife knows as the big boxes that I bring home all the time are a dead give away. And the parcel collection slips etc etc. She is very observant - can tell a new loco/wagon - in fact anything new she is onto me - so best keep it clean[^] |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Tony<br />Hi John, with your layout the ceiling is the limit and I am sure you can pack a whole heap of layers in to accommodate many more locos!! Just have to invest in a step ladder Hi Tony - sounds kind of a layout tree, huh ?! |
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I too have my 37522 Seetal lok on the way. It looks like I'll have to round all my own and my father's Gators up for a family photo when it arrives. The croc pit is getting pretty large at my house..... |
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Alberto, why not - she indeed resembles an half Gator When I was little I had a green E63 (my very first M loco). Looking at her I sometimes dreamed about how it were to own a complete Cocodrillo [:p] Best Regards, John post scriptum: Don't miss that beautyful old Baldwin [:p] (at "U.S. PICS WANTED") |
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Nice E60. |
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Seeing as we are stretching the definition of a "croc", how about my E91?  Sorry, I havn't had a chance to photograph it on my layout yet. |
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Wonderful machine, but not a croco... I suggest to open a topic for Her, what about? I am going to take my camera.... |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />Seeing as we are stretching the definition of a "croc", how about my E91? Ray: If you want her to be a Croco - she is a Croco Stretching gives me no trouble. Since our politicians do it all the time ... [xx(] |
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Actually, John, I've also got a Blue E 94 (3422), but I don't have a photo of her at the moment.
I'll post one when I can. |
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Hey Alberto, Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Wonderful machine, but not a croco...
She moves like a croc. Just a bit broad in the shoulders |
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John! I thought it was a CROC?
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