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Offline john black  
#1 Posted : 10 May 2005 22:24:55(UTC)
john black

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Hi all:

Received delivery of my 4th Gator (#3335) yesterday. She's beautyful - especially those red trucks look great !!! Together with an E194 (#3300) she's doubleheading my ESSO fuel train now biggrin

Best Regards
John

Edited by moderator 20 July 2017 11:48:52(UTC)  | Reason: Made topic 'Sticky'

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Offline steventrain  
#2 Posted : 10 May 2005 22:52:35(UTC)
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How Nice!wink
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline efel  
#3 Posted : 11 May 2005 00:38:38(UTC)
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Any pics? [:p]
Offline McLae  
#4 Posted : 11 May 2005 06:19:12(UTC)
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Nice to see another distressed reptile has found a fine home!
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Offline Sam  
#5 Posted : 11 May 2005 08:58:39(UTC)
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Pics! Pics!
Era I-V / HO & 1 Gauge / C-Track & Mobil Station, with Central Station.
Offline Guus  
#6 Posted : 11 May 2005 10:57:02(UTC)
Guus

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Hi John,

Congratulations Smile John.She is in my 1997 catalogue ,wonderful loco [:p].

Best regards
Guus
Kind regards,
Guus
Offline HueyCE  
#7 Posted : 11 May 2005 13:10:15(UTC)
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John- You get any more Gators and we are going to have to declare your train room a nature preserve.Smile It's always cool to get a new locomotive isn't it?

Ira
Building German Era I-II layout(Mk IIIc).UserPostedImage

Offline john black  
#8 Posted : 11 May 2005 16:45:08(UTC)
john black

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by efel
<br />Any pics? [:p]


Fred, some actual layout pictures including E254 and other new engines will follow next week. Thanks to all of you for your kind comments Smile

Best Regards
John

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline john black  
#9 Posted : 11 May 2005 17:06:17(UTC)
john black

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by McLae
<br />Nice to see another distressed reptile has found a fine home!


And #5 (39223) is on the run already, Gatormaster biggrin

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline john black  
#10 Posted : 11 May 2005 17:12:58(UTC)
john black

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by HueyCE
<br />we are going to have to declare your train room a nature preserve Smile It's always cool to get a new locomotive isn't it?


It is, Ira, it is [:p]! Perhaps I should ask WWF for some cash ...

Best Regards
John

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline john black  
#11 Posted : 11 May 2005 17:21:08(UTC)
john black

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus
<br />She is in my 1997 catalogue, wonderful loco [:p]


Thank you, Guus Smile! Since I don't own this catalog could you do me a favor to scan & post her original catalog picture(s) right here in this topic, please ?

Best Regards
John

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline David Dewar  
#12 Posted : 11 May 2005 17:45:33(UTC)
David Dewar

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Well done John. You are becoming a gator expert first class. I have yet to own one but when funds allow will try for one this year. Probably Swiss as I dont have much Swiss stock.
Look forward to pics.
David
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline Guus  
#13 Posted : 11 May 2005 18:49:05(UTC)
Guus

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Hi John Smile,

Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Since I don't own this catalog could you do me a favor to scan & post her original catalog picture(s) right here in this topic, please ?


Unfortunately I don't own a scanner but I'll think of a way to scan it somwhere else and download it to my computer.

Best regards
Guus
Kind regards,
Guus
Offline stephenbb  
#14 Posted : 11 May 2005 18:54:45(UTC)
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Great purchase! I'd like to see some pics.
Stephen
Stephen(USA)
ETE,NMRA,MEA
Offline steventrain  
#15 Posted : 11 May 2005 21:14:29(UTC)
steventrain

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Send picture please[8)]
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline john black  
#16 Posted : 11 May 2005 23:15:26(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar
<br />Well done John. You are becoming a gator expert first class. I have yet to own one but when funds allow will try for one this year.


Thank you, David. Well, our Gatormaster is definitely McLae - the man who triggered it all some time ago. Never had intent for collecting but now ... biggrin
Try one out (the C-sinus Gators #39221 & #39223 are especially nice & smooth !) but be careful - there's no cure [xx(]

My small Gator collection so far:

E94 digital C-SINUS lights & sound #39221
E254 (E94) analog LFCM electronic reverse switch #3335
E194 analog LFCM electronic reverse switch #3300 (Set)
BE6/8 analog DCM electronic reverse switch #3300 (Set)

Best Regards
John

post scriptum: One old and very experienced European brick & mortar told me yesterday M's E94/E194/E254 total production since 1964 (1st release of #3022) is an estimated 1 million locos ... [:0][:0][:0]
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline john black  
#17 Posted : 11 May 2005 23:37:49(UTC)
john black

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus
<br />Unfortunately I don't own a scanner but I'll think of a way to scan it somwhere else and download it to my computer


Edit: Not necessary, anymore - one of my sons still had an old 1993 catalog (the year #3335 was released)

Thanks, again Smile
John
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline Guus  
#18 Posted : 12 May 2005 18:29:36(UTC)
Guus

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Hi John,

Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Edit: Not necessary, anymore - one of my sons still had an old 1993 catalog (the year #3335 was released)


Thanks,however I still can see what I can do for you.It will take some time though.

Best regards
Guus
Kind regards,
Guus
Offline David Dewar  
#19 Posted : 12 May 2005 18:44:48(UTC)
David Dewar

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Thanks John..will go for a C sinus as you say and will then apply for membership of the gator club.
David
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline john black  
#20 Posted : 12 May 2005 18:48:45(UTC)
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Great idea, David - you'll love her ... [:p]

John

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline McLae  
#21 Posted : 12 May 2005 20:42:09(UTC)
McLae


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To Misquote an old comercial,
Bet you can't buy just one! winkbiggrin
The McLae
IB digital, DB, OBB, SBB epII-V
Providing a home for little lost 'Gators
Offline steventrain  
#22 Posted : 12 May 2005 21:19:39(UTC)
steventrain

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black


post scriptum: One old and very experienced European brick & mortar told me yesterday M's E94/E194/E254 total production since 1964 (1st release of #3022) is an estimated 1 million locos ... [:0][:0][:0]




Wow,you mean 1,000,000?,i never heard of it[:0]
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline john black  
#23 Posted : 12 May 2005 21:51:13(UTC)
john black

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Cool, huh ? Those are impressive numbers Cool
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline john black  
#24 Posted : 12 May 2005 21:55:23(UTC)
john black

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by McLae
<br />Bet you can't buy just one! winkbiggrin


David surely can. After that first one I did resist some moons, at least biggrin
(but in between [xx(] there were two PA-1s, a Mike, a BigBoy ...)

David, just in case you're not aware of: The SBB and OBB C-sinus got no sound ...
John
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline Guus  
#25 Posted : 13 May 2005 16:36:28(UTC)
Guus

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Hi John,

BTW: Did you know there is a special E94 site under construction?

It's:http://www.e94.de/

Best regards
Guus
Kind regards,
Guus
Offline john black  
#26 Posted : 13 May 2005 16:41:57(UTC)
john black

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I knew, Guus - many thanks, anyway Smile (some googling did produce LOTS of nice E94 sites biggrin)

John
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#27 Posted : 13 May 2005 23:24:32(UTC)
5HorizonsRR

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My gator collection has been growing as well:
39560 SBB Green
39561 SBB Brown
26730 SBB Weathered From Set
Kolls 84701 SBB Brown
3422 Blue and Cream German One (one of my favorite paint schemes)
39221 Sinus DR Croc
They are phenominal locomotives. For performance I would definately recommend any of the sinus ones, but visually, the 3422 is the prettiest.
FS + SBB Era 2-5 and Vintage Marklin
Offline steventrain  
#28 Posted : 13 May 2005 23:38:21(UTC)
steventrain

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Nice E94 collection.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline McLae  
#29 Posted : 13 May 2005 23:45:53(UTC)
McLae


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Just a friendly note:
Roco is making a Red/white 1020 this year. Might be the first red/white model.
AC and DC versions. Get your order in now! (I havebiggrin)
The McLae
IB digital, DB, OBB, SBB epII-V
Providing a home for little lost 'Gators
Offline HueyCE  
#30 Posted : 14 May 2005 05:32:43(UTC)
HueyCE


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John C- You seem to be amassing quite the Gator collection.

Ira
Building German Era I-II layout(Mk IIIc).UserPostedImage

Offline john black  
#31 Posted : 14 May 2005 16:33:07(UTC)
john black

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by 5HorizonsRR
<br />Kolls 84701 SBB Brown


What MRR maker is "Kolls" ??? Only know their BOOKLETS on collectors prices ...

John
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#32 Posted : 14 May 2005 20:38:23(UTC)
Alberto Pedrini

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Posts: 1,433
Location: Italy
Hi John,
this is the list of crocos from my CD marklin archiv

3322 green black
3052 green black
3159 red black
3322 green black
3335 green red
3335 S1 guinnes record
3422 blue black
3722 green black
8322 green black
8335 A2 green red
33221 red black
39221 grey black
39222 green black
39223 green black

bye Smile
Alberto

Marklinfan Club Italia
www.marklinfan.net
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#33 Posted : 14 May 2005 23:49:34(UTC)
5HorizonsRR

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Hi John,
The kolls croc refers to the Kolls item #. The crocodile is a #3356 that a German dealer named Schweiger had Marklin do like 100 or so of in Brown before Marklin made the factory brown croc #3352. I rarity I came into completely by mistake, but now one of my most treasured items, regardless of its relatively low book value.
FS + SBB Era 2-5 and Vintage Marklin
Offline john black  
#34 Posted : 17 May 2005 13:24:08(UTC)
john black

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Thank you, John
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline john black  
#35 Posted : 17 May 2005 13:31:05(UTC)
john black

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by almagik
<br />from my CD marklin archiv

3159 red black *)
33221 red black *)


Hi Alberto Smile:

1. Coolness - never knew they made RED Gators ... [:p][:p][:p]
(or do you mean here those ORANGE Gators from OBB)

2. Please, could you do me a special favor and post some pictures from your MARKLIN Archive CD for me ??? - I miss them badly:

3022, 3030, 3089, 3300, 3335, 3422, 3462

Many thanks SmileSmileSmile
John

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline McLae  
#36 Posted : 17 May 2005 21:18:37(UTC)
McLae


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Austrian 1020's came in three colors.
Green, Orange, and red/white.
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pi...t/electric/1020/pix.html

Roco is putting out a red/white version (AC!) as part of the 2005 international Collection, #69774.biggrin
The McLae
IB digital, DB, OBB, SBB epII-V
Providing a home for little lost 'Gators
Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#37 Posted : 18 May 2005 00:28:04(UTC)
Alberto Pedrini

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
(or do you mean here those ORANGE Gators from OBB)
2. Please, could you do me a special favor and post some pictures from your MARKLIN Archive CD for me ??? John

1)It's the OBB orange.
2) I am trying to extract the pics since i have bought it, but they are cripted, I'll search for in the web or I'll scan my paper catalogs, wait a moment.
bye
Alberto

Marklinfan Club Italia
www.marklinfan.net
Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#38 Posted : 18 May 2005 00:58:34(UTC)
Alberto Pedrini

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lost links

Edited by user 26 September 2010 16:56:46(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Alberto

Marklinfan Club Italia
www.marklinfan.net
Offline john black  
#39 Posted : 18 May 2005 01:08:46(UTC)
john black

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Wooooow - that was fast, Sir !!! Mille grazie, amico mio [:p][:p][:p]

John (extremely busy now - downloading & printing like a dog [xx(])

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline steventrain  
#40 Posted : 18 May 2005 01:09:58(UTC)
steventrain

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I am very impressive with your nice collection locomotiveSmile
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline john black  
#41 Posted : 18 May 2005 01:58:51(UTC)
john black

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by McLae
<br />http://www.railfaneurope.net/pi...t/electric/1020/pix.html


Hi Thomas: Many thanks for that GREAT link, Gatormaster [:p][:p][:p]
Those green Austrian Gators are just impressive and in perfect condition !!!

John

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline john black  
#42 Posted : 18 May 2005 02:16:45(UTC)
john black

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />I am very impressive with your nice collection locomotiveSmile


Thank you. They are part of my small analog collection.

John

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline john black  
#43 Posted : 18 May 2005 02:21:40(UTC)
john black

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by 5HorizonsRR
<br />3422 Blue German (one of my favorite paint schemes)


Congratulations, John - your's is a very impressive collection !!! And you're right, the blue one looks just great [:p]

John

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Offline john black  
#44 Posted : 02 June 2005 05:06:20(UTC)
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Hi all:

Received delivery of my 5th Gator today (oh well, this gonna be an expensive [:I] year, again) - an E194 #39223 (built in 2003, according label). This is my second C-sinus "Cocodrillo", but a few differences to her sister engine E94 #39221 (built in 2001) came up that might be interesting for you.
Well, also this loco was bought brand new from M dealership, and quality of material and workmanship are excellent as usual - it's more the assembling (only a few years later ...)


1. #39221's axles and gears were oiled properly - #39223 was dry as a Martini. Couldn't stand that squealing longer than 3 laps ... [xx(]
2. #39221's pickup shoe was adjusted perfectly well - #39223's Schleifer was badly misaligned. Out of time, too. It added to the noise ... [xx(]
3. #39221's wiring was done neatly - #39223's cables were hanging in the air, somehow ... [xx(]
4. #39221's speaker was taped precisely to midship - #39223's one blocked movement of rearward truck, partially ... [xx(]
5. #39221's chassis clearly reads "Made in Germany" - #39223 ??? gives us a new quiz ... [xx(]


Fine. A few hours (and a little tune-up) later she's humming SUPER SMOOTHLY like her sister - you can even hear that C-sinus, now SmileSmileSmile
Problem is: For US it's no big deal to handle such minor trouble by ourselfes (cos it's fun, too). But the average, perhaps new customer will be extremely dissapointed and shout: "Piece of junk !!!" And never ever buy again ...
I have only one question. Please M, WHERE FOR HEAVENS SAKE DO YA ASSEMBLE YOUR €300 PREMIUM LOCOS - AFRICA, HUH ???!!!

John

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Offline frankv  
#45 Posted : 02 June 2005 06:16:41(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
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Fine. A few hours (and a little tune-up) later she's humming SUPER SMOOTHLY like her sister - you can even hear that C-sinus, now SmileSmileSmile
Problem is: For US it's no big deal to handle such minor trouble by ourselfes (cos it's fun, too). But the average, perhaps new customer will be extremely dissapointed and shout: "Piece of junk !!!" And never ever buy again ...
I have only one question. Please M, WHERE FOR HEAVENS SAKE DO YA ASSEMBLE YOUR €300 PREMIUM LOCOS - AFRICA, HUH ???!!!

John



John,

Sorry to hear that your new lok caused a little disappointment out of the box, but glad to hear that you were able to take care of it yourself.

I myself, have never had any issues with Pickup shoes etc on any premium loks,

"Watch, I just jinxed myself"

but what I have noticed is that Marklin does have a tendency to tightly package their products. While this works great protecting the models for their travel to the dealer and then to the end users, it can make taking the lok out of the box a challenge.

When you got it from your dealer, did it look like the model had been taken out of its box before? I am just wondering if maybe your dealer had it on display and when they put it back in the box to ship it to you, maybe they didn’t exercise the proper care?

Just a thought.

Regards,

Frank
Offline john black  
#46 Posted : 02 June 2005 13:06:44(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by frankv
<br />glad to hear that you were able to take care of it yourself ... maybe your dealer had it on display and when they put it back in the box to ship it to you, maybe they didn’t exercise the proper care ?


Hi Frank Smile: Thank you - I'm glad, too ...

No Sir, dealer is innocent (as always) - by chance I was at his shop when that parcel from Germany arrived, and it was sealed well. We gave her a short test run only to check the functions but never had the idea to remove the body for closer inspection - NOW this will be another point to be checked in the future [}:)] !!!

I have bought 19 brand new locos in 19 months - my first step into the poorhouse [xx(] - but 6 of 'em were for my Grandson and my two Nephews. All of these were packed tightly as you say - no single trouble with the pickup.

No, it's the assembling at the factory - whereever this one may be. Since all of my other Gators are "Made in Germany" and their quality of assembling is just excellent Smile - it comes clear M has made a move to a third world country. Even with some of her premium models.

And surely, my dealer gladly would have fixed this all for me. But once she's on my layout I hate it to wait ... [}:)][}:)][}:)]

John

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Offline David Dewar  
#47 Posted : 02 June 2005 14:06:44(UTC)
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Glad you were able to sort out the problems John. It is very disappointing when a new model does not work perfectly out of the box. We are paying a lot of cash for these items and I would have thought they should be tested properly at the factory before despatch.
I presume with the great god profit being in control that would not be possible.
Have fun with the new fellow and introduce him to his other gator pals.
David
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Offline john black  
#48 Posted : 03 June 2005 00:16:55(UTC)
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Thank you, David biggrin - he and the other Gators are good friends, already ...
Well, perhaps this should help poor M with their assembling trouble - after all, we're talking about a 2005 regular production item.
There was a time when you could buy the very same loco ready to go or AS A KIT (about 50% rebate). Instead of repairing their junky work I'd gladly buy such loco kits and assemble her by myself in a neat way - beats M's fiddling 40 miles by sunday Cool

Best Regards
John

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Offline rschaffr  
#49 Posted : 03 June 2005 00:27:03(UTC)
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I only have two lonely crocs (A 3022 E94/194 and a 3356 Be6/8). Maybe they could come up to your house to play with your crocs? Smile. I do have four E103's though, two in TEE livery and two in Orientrot. I'll get them all out one of these days and post a picture. They are 3054 (my very first Marklin lok), 3357, 3358 and 37572 (just acquired).
-Ron
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Offline john black  
#50 Posted : 03 June 2005 01:06:01(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rschaffr
<br />I only have two lonely crocs (A 3022 E94/194 and a 3356 Be6/8). Maybe they could come up to your house to play with your crocs ? Smile


Great idea, Ron - and perhaps McLae will join us with his gang so the three of us can visit Brooklyn Brewery [:p]! (Wife [}:)] can act as the Gatorsitter in the meantime ...)

John

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