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Offline john black  
#51 Posted : 10 September 2005 11:49:13(UTC)
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I confess I did it (some day I'll tell Wife so ya better don't tell her first ... [}:)])
Well, she's a beautyful German (25) and she wanted to leave her former master, an old man in his seventies. He had taken possession of her just three days ago, but she was lonely and unhappy there. When visiting his residence she whispered "take me!" ... I had no choice, for 100 bucks she was mine.
Since she was nice but dirty we had to go to the bathroom first, and after a thorough clean-up (not the slightest scratch on her skin) she showed me what she can !!! I'm still dizzy ... biggrin

Wanna know her name and number ??? E194091-5 (#3022.5 - the only "short roof" E194 model), built in 1980 in Western Germany. My man, what a piece of analog excellence & quality !!! She's my 6th Gator, now, and she looks, humms and runs like brand new [:p][:p][:p]

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Offline Gregor  
#52 Posted : 10 September 2005 13:34:40(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
<br />When visiting his residence she whispered "take me!" ... I had no choice,..


John, Marklin should hire you to set up a new marketing strategy !wink

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Offline john black  
#53 Posted : 10 September 2005 15:28:10(UTC)
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Gregor - I swear she actually begged for taking her home. And she was so cute. I simply could not let her out in the cold ... biggrin
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Offline McLae  
#54 Posted : 10 September 2005 18:28:21(UTC)
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John, I know your wife will send me death rays, but...biggrin

Here are some pics of 'Grampa', a Piko E93. (Sorry for the bad focus, still learning digital camera operations.)

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Gramps passing the Blau 3722.

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Gramps waiting next to an E94.

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All three Loks meeting.

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Under the spotlight. Ok, just a flashlight, but is's all I had handy.[:p]
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Offline steventrain  
#55 Posted : 10 September 2005 23:04:24(UTC)
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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#56 Posted : 10 September 2005 23:20:48(UTC)
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John, this is a fever...what's her name? confusedSmile
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Offline john black  
#57 Posted : 12 September 2005 10:00:39(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by McLae
<br />John, I know your wife will send me death rays, but ... biggrin


Thomas: biggrin - she got used to it. Actually, meanwhile she's the one who's encouraging me most of the time when it comes to a new loco. Wifes have to subject themselves important learning processes, sometimes ... [}:)]

Thanks for the great pictures,
John

post scriptum: Well, that blue one ... (sigh) ... what you were telling about death rays, huh ?
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#58 Posted : 12 September 2005 10:05:00(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by almagik
<br />John, this is a fever ... what's her name? confusedSmile


Her name is Gator [}:)]

BTW - please give us MORE of your excellent E94 pictures [:p], Alberto !!!
John
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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#59 Posted : 13 September 2005 23:36:42(UTC)
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Offline john black  
#60 Posted : 13 September 2005 23:56:53(UTC)
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My Gator family picture: please excuse the poor quality [xx(] - it's the collection that counts ...


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Back row, left to right: 39221, 3356, 39223
Front row, left to right: 3335, 3022, 3322
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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#61 Posted : 14 September 2005 00:17:15(UTC)
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Nice collection, John. I only have two (my 3022 E194 and my 3356 Be6/8) But they are beautiful.
-Ron
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#62 Posted : 14 September 2005 00:28:35(UTC)
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Alberto: U N B E L I E V A B L E [:0][:0][:0] - they are beautyful ... excellent ... yours are the very best Gator pictures I've ever seen [:p][:p][:p][:p][:p]

Mille Grazie, my friend Smile
John
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AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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#63 Posted : 14 September 2005 00:52:15(UTC)
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WOW[:0] Great video,Very quality filmsSmile
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#64 Posted : 14 September 2005 00:53:33(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
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Back row, left to right: 39221, 3356, 39223
Front row, left to right: 3335, 3022, 3322




Great collection,johnSmile
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Offline john black  
#65 Posted : 14 September 2005 02:55:27(UTC)
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Cool movies, Alberto Cool
Thank you Smile, Ron and Steven

John
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline McLae  
#66 Posted : 14 September 2005 04:48:51(UTC)
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Much better than my photos. biggrin

I need more practice!
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Offline Tony  
#67 Posted : 14 September 2005 09:18:33(UTC)
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Hi all

Nice pictures guys - great quality Alberto ( Also interesting catenery solution)
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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#68 Posted : 14 September 2005 12:55:29(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tony
<br />( Also interesting catenery solution)

biggrinbiggrinbiggrin very cheap, 2 pixel grey line added.
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#69 Posted : 14 September 2005 13:35:12(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by almagik
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tony
<br />( Also interesting catenery solution)

biggrinbiggrinbiggrin very cheap, 2 pixel grey line added.


Thought it looked a bit odd biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin
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Offline Guus  
#70 Posted : 14 September 2005 13:43:19(UTC)
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Nice collection John [:p].

I have a green Ce 6/8 crocodile 39560.The brown 39561 is still on my wishlist.

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Offline Guus  
#71 Posted : 14 September 2005 13:46:31(UTC)
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Alberto,I really like your pictures [:p].I can see you're a lighting expert.

Guus
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Offline john black  
#72 Posted : 14 September 2005 13:59:59(UTC)
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Thank you, Guus Smile. There's only one remaining on my list: #37490 GG-1 (The American Gator) - but I'll wait til all the bugs are out ...

Best Regards,
John
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AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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#73 Posted : 14 September 2005 14:09:26(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by McLae
<br />Much better than my photos biggrin I need more practice!


Well. Ya can challenge Alberto, then [}:)]
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AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#74 Posted : 14 September 2005 23:51:13(UTC)
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<br />Alberto,I really like your pictures [:p].


Thanks Guus, this is for you

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Other pics here

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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#75 Posted : 14 September 2005 23:56:35(UTC)
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<br />Mille Grazie, my friend Smile
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John, you give me a great satisfaction, here the 3022 from the sixty

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#76 Posted : 15 September 2005 00:14:44(UTC)
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Alberto - thank your kind efforts my loco gallery is growing to unknown dimensions ... [:p][:p][:p]

Mille Grazie, again
John

Edit: Hey, you did mention Guus' (and also my) Gators at your web site - how nice. And just look at that lovely and perfectly built module SmileSmileSmile - everything seems to be real ! Must have been an instant success at Bereguardo Train Show ...
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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#77 Posted : 15 September 2005 10:46:22(UTC)
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Top quality pictures,almagikSmile
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#78 Posted : 15 September 2005 13:03:07(UTC)
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Mille grazie Alberto Smile,

Beautiful [:p].Märklin should ask you to make some nice photos for their next yearbook!

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#79 Posted : 15 September 2005 14:09:23(UTC)
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forgive me for asking sth ridiculus.but what is a gator?
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#80 Posted : 15 September 2005 14:28:54(UTC)
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forgive me for asking sth ridiculus.but what is a gator?


To all of our American forum friends please correct if I'm wrong ,but gator is an acronym for alligator or crocodile.
The Swiss Be 6/8 was I believe the first loc nicknamed crocodile ,because of it's form.And any loc resembling this form is also called crocodile or gator if you want.

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post scriptum: Don't know if our Australian or English members use the word gator as well.
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#81 Posted : 15 September 2005 14:45:31(UTC)
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The Swiss Be 6/8 was I believe the first loc nicknamed crocodile ,because of it's form.And any loc resembling this form is also called crocodile or gator if you want.
Best regards
Guus

Hi Alonso,
I confirm, and add, for to call a loco Crocodile it must have fronts articulated. (sorry for my English).
If you look at a croco run over a succession of bends you can understand why it's so named, [:p][:p][:p], and Swiss, where it's born, is full of wonderful bends.
For me, it's the must beatiful loco never built.
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#82 Posted : 15 September 2005 15:21:10(UTC)
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#83 Posted : 15 September 2005 15:54:33(UTC)
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i am scared
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#84 Posted : 15 September 2005 18:08:45(UTC)
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<br />What is a gator ?


Nikos Smile: Gators (aka Alligators aka Crocodile aka Cocodrillo) are those long-nosed green beasts we are playing [:p][:p][:p] with here. Alas, this species is long gone now (except for museums) but in our small MRR world they can live forever. Generally it subdivides into an Swiss, an German and an American branch (although the only U.S. Gator GG-1 isn't really articulated, but what shalls biggrin)
Most of the time darn expensive but sometimes ya can find a real bargain - like my excellent $100 #3022 from last week ...

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#85 Posted : 15 September 2005 18:19:20(UTC)
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<br />M should ask you to make some nice photos for their next yearbook!


Yeah - Alberto's masterpieces would give them top class, indeed. And much more pep !!! biggrin

But then I couldn't afford that catalog, anymore ... [xx(]
John
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#86 Posted : 15 September 2005 18:26:37(UTC)
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<br />www.eclipsis.it/Video/Crocodileattack.wmv


Hehe, well done, Alberto biggrinbiggrinbiggrin - what a cute lil' beast ...

BTW, where can I find those BigBoy and Mikado movies ? - forgot to store and can't find them now
AND, do you by chance got any pictures of the Swiss Cocodrillo in "verde classico" ???

John
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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#87 Posted : 15 September 2005 18:51:07(UTC)
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if that is a gator then i have one too the famous 39560,
i have to admit that event in that scale that little creature is still a beast!!!
i hope they will reproduce the grey croco with a mfx c-sinus motor
and i am worried if the change in the digital system will affect my 39-560
he is a must have,i am thinking of buying the plastic case only for him,he worths that.
But his pantographs are a little problem,since i do not have catenary i do not care...

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#88 Posted : 15 September 2005 19:11:52(UTC)
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Never mind - you can own dozens of Electrics without having it. But cat surely adds to the fun. Also looks great Cool
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CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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#89 Posted : 15 September 2005 19:36:42(UTC)
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There are two legends (that I know) to explain the name "Krokodil":
- some say it's a joke about the name "Cockerill" (a loco engineer)
- some say it's because the locos look like crocodiles.

Cockerill built three steam locos with engineer's cab in the middle of the loco - according to that definition, the V100 would also be a crocodile ...

If you define "crocodile" by behaviour (on turnouts), you would have to include German E91, too!
If you define "crocodile" by shape, than German E69 will qualify, too.
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#90 Posted : 15 September 2005 19:44:46(UTC)
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Cockerill built three steam locos with engineer's cab in the middle of the loco - according to that definition, the V100 would also be a crocodile ...

If you define "crocodile" by shape, than German E69 will qualify, too.


According to this definition, well, my car is a crocodile, too! The "cab" is in the middle.

Thats valuable news. I'll keep that in mind for the day when I'll resell it.Smile

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#91 Posted : 15 September 2005 21:40:16(UTC)
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it is pretty good to see some germans too in this forum,u r a minority here even though marklin is your company.
why u r so few?
i would expect u to full this site.
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#92 Posted : 15 September 2005 22:43:54(UTC)
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<br />Forgive me for asking sth ridiculus


Never. Cos there's nothing to forgive, my friend Smile. Asking questions is a sign of cleverness [:p] - thus a thing like a stupid question doesn't exist.

But there can be idiotic answers [xx(][xx(][xx(]
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#93 Posted : 15 September 2005 23:50:14(UTC)
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As I understand it (From old M* catalogsbiggrin) the SBB had Crocodilles or Crocks.
DB/OBB had Alligators or Gators. (Except for OBB 1089 Croc)

Next year maybe for my first Croc.[:p]
As for gators, I just did a nose count[:o)] and came up with 10[:0]. Not counting Gramps (E93).
Plus One Roco 1020 on order and two E93s in the mail.wink
(The count does include the twins. Somehow I wound up with two 194-112-9[:o)])
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#94 Posted : 15 September 2005 23:53:26(UTC)
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<br />it is pretty good to see some germans too iin this forum,u r a minority here even though marklin is your company.
why u r so few?
i would expect u to full this site.
Well, I can only speak for myself. There are many German Märklin forums, you will find a huge number of German Märklin enthusiasts there.

So why do they not participate in this international forum ?? Maybe it has to do with language abilities, I don't know.

What I do know is that the multinational participants in this forum are a funny bunch, knowledgable experts and above all:
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#95 Posted : 16 September 2005 00:11:58(UTC)
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Hi John,
here http://www.marklinfan.it/marklinnew.htm
there are some pics from my Chirstmas 2003 layout,
have you already downloaded them?
Tomorrow I'll take some photos to the 3756 my first green -37569 weathered - 26730 freight train set under the catenary of Diorama.
And here http://www.marklinfan.it/videoclip.htm
there are some video of a BigBoy over a trestle, are them those you wanted?
The Challenger,gg1 and Mikado video are in the trains room...
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#96 Posted : 16 September 2005 00:53:10(UTC)
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they are very good videos,i wish they were longer...
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#97 Posted : 16 September 2005 00:53:25(UTC)
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I agree with Johann in any respect !

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<br />u r a minority here even though marklin is your company.


Unfortunately, M* is not my company. Otherwise I would be very rich and happy, as I had sold all these wonderful gators shown here in the thread.

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#98 Posted : 16 September 2005 02:17:39(UTC)
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it has german origin
if marklin was mine i would keep all the crocs for my self
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#99 Posted : 16 September 2005 02:38:02(UTC)
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<br />Somehow I wound up with two 194-112-9 [:o)]


Gatormaster - such can happen when collecting too hard ... biggrin
Alberto - got 'em, again. Thanks Smile
Johann - you're too kind. All the best back to you Smile

BTW, got a question, please. I know German and American Gators were in freight AND passenger service. How about the Swiss one - did she see any passenger duty, too ?

Thanks,
John
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#100 Posted : 16 September 2005 20:52:15(UTC)
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Hi John,
As far as I know the Swiss Croc's were freight only for the Gotthard route. From what I've been told, unlike most other railroads, the SBB ordered most their locomotives to be designed for a specific purpose, be it freight/passenger/a special route like the Gotthard. Therefore until era 4/5 few locomotives did regular service as both
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