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alonso231gery		#201 Posted : 12 April 2006 05:08:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		B.T.W. I am the one who has opened again,the 5th page of one of your very sucessful topics.
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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john black		#202 Posted : 12 April 2006 05:43:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Yeah - you do this quite successfully, Nikos Well, best countries for striking gold when looking for long time discontinued M locos are southern Germany and northwestern Austria. Top quality stuff, most of the time. A bit expensive but worth every single Cent ...
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Tony		#203 Posted : 12 April 2006 13:11:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 726 Location: Cape Town		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br />Yeah - you do this quite successfully, Nikos Well, best countries for striking gold when looking for long time discontinued M locos are southern Germany and northwestern Austria. Top quality stuff, most of the time. A bit expensive but worth every single Cent ... In places like Singpore they have one small M shop packed to the roof and everywhere with M stuff - some stuff dating back 10 plus years. You can get all that old stuff brand new - A bit expensive though. The same in Bangkok - one small shop - a mission to find, but man it has M items from way back when. Just take loads of cash.
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nevw		#204 Posted : 12 April 2006 13:58:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tony <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br />Yeah - you do this quite successfully, Nikos Well, best countries for striking gold when looking for long time discontinued M locos are southern Germany and northwestern Austria. Top quality stuff, most of the time. A bit expensive but worth every single Cent ... In places like Singpore they have one small M shop packed to the roof and everywhere with M stuff - some stuff dating back 10 plus years. You can get all that old stuff brand new - A bit expensive though. The same in Bangkok - one small shop - a mission to find, but man it has M items from way back when. Just take loads of cash. Singapore would have to be one of the most expensive Marklin Shops in the World. Nev
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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john black		#205 Posted : 12 April 2006 15:33:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Friends - "expensive" is relative, indeed, and those excellent C-Sinus Gators give a good example: The light green, regular production (still, since I guess with the rise of mfx this is the very last year) E194 #39223 carries a quite hefty €340.- price tag, today. On the other hand, with extensive searching (forget about the web dealers, this is serious brick & mortar business) and a bit of luck, two years back I paid "only" €260.- for the grey, year 2000 limited production E94 #39221, and this week "only" €270.- for the emerald green, year 2001 limited production E1020 #39222 ... John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Tony		#206 Posted : 12 April 2006 17:47:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 726 Location: Cape Town		Singapore would have to be one of the most expensive Marklin Shops in the World. Nev Hey Nev, You are sooo right! Not a friendly bunch either!![:0] Can't negotiate a deal - take it or leave it!! But whenever I get over there, I have to take a look.[:I][:I]
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Tony		#207 Posted : 12 April 2006 17:49:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 726 Location: Cape Town		Man, those pictures are huge [:0][:0][:0][:0] But look greatonce you scroll across and across
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Webmaster		#208 Posted : 12 April 2006 20:26:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,161		Dear Lutz, could you please make the pictures a bit smaller? The suggested maximum width is 640px so it is easy for everyone to see & doesn't break the forum layout... Very nice pics though...
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john black		#209 Posted : 13 April 2006 05:49:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Hi Lutz, many thanks for those great pictures [:p] !!! BTW - just like your clever thumbnail solution You know - any pictures <u>especially on the most beautiful German Gator series E94, 194, 254, 1020</u> are gladly apprecciated. Please give us more of your excellent masterpieces ! John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Seetal		#210 Posted : 13 April 2006 21:07:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 548 Location: Maryland, USA		A seetal at work, a thing of beauty! John
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steventrain		#211 Posted : 14 April 2006 00:13:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,609 Location: United Kingdom		Very nice locos,Is it that your?
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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john black		#212 Posted : 14 April 2006 02:55:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:German Gator series E94, 194, 254, 1020 Very good, Lutz - many thanks ! BTW, you run a beautifully detailed layout !!! Would be just great to see more of it in our "Layout Section" ... And do you by chance have any pictures of the above Electrics ? Best Regards, John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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alonso231gery		#213 Posted : 15 April 2006 03:02:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Seetal <br />A seetal at work, a thing of beauty! John To me a Seetal crocodile is a castrated krokodil,i totally dislike that loco...
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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Tony		#214 Posted : 15 April 2006 11:18:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 726 Location: Cape Town		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Seetal <br />A seetal at work, a thing of beauty! John To me a Seetal crocodile is a castrated krokodil,i totally dislike that loco... [:0][:0][:0]
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alonso231gery		#215 Posted : 15 April 2006 13:56:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		To be honest i can't stand that loco,but it is just a matter of taste... I do not want to insult our friend John.[:I]
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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john black		#216 Posted : 15 April 2006 15:43:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br />a matter of taste ... You got it. That's why Gatormania is open to <u>ALL</u> Gator / Crocodile lovers [}:)]
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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alonso231gery		#217 Posted : 15 April 2006 17:51:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		I do not want someone to be excluded John, i just do not like that loco at all.
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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john black		#218 Posted : 27 April 2006 02:16:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		I know, Nikos - no problem at all ... ***** Well, all that fuzz about M and the banks has triggered one thing inside me: I'll have to buy still more of those beautyful old heavy metal Gators - who knows how long they'll be available and what the new owners intent will be. Since they've really killed the truly excellent Big C-Sinus in favor of some mediocre mouse motor (would you rip off that 5Litre V8 from your S500 and insult him with an anemic four banger ???) we can imagine easily their next step: an E94 or CE6/8 made entirely of plastic ... [xx(][xx(][xx(] Seems #39223 & #39560 will be the last top-of-the-line Gators - the end of an era John post scriptum: While typing this one of my old green beasts is going circles around my notebook. On M-track, powered by an old blue transformer. What a look, what a sound ... [:p][:p][:p]
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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alonso231gery		#219 Posted : 27 April 2006 03:24:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Today is the day that i shall receive my GG-1(37490). One factor that forced me to buy that loco is the weight of it. The heavier,the better(one basic principle in MRR). Further info will be given when i will test that loco-mystery.
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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john black		#220 Posted : 27 April 2006 03:26:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Coolness - eagerly awaiting your report. And plug your ears before engaging that blower ...
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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foumaro		#221 Posted : 27 April 2006 09:52:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,420 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		You bought the loco here in Greece? Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br />Today is the day that i shall receive my GG-1(37490). One factor that forced me to buy that loco is the weight of it. The heavier,the better(one basic principle in MRR). Further info will be given when i will test that loco-mystery.
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steventrain		#222 Posted : 27 April 2006 11:59:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,609 Location: United Kingdom		Cool GG-1,well done alonso231gery.
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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alonso231gery		#223 Posted : 28 April 2006 02:59:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by foumaro <br />You bought the loco here in Greece? Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br />Today is the day that i shall receive my GG-1(37490). One factor that forced me to buy that loco is the weight of it. The heavier,the better(one basic principle in MRR). Further info will be given when i will test that loco-mystery. Yes but i had some problems that will be fixed.I am lucky to have a good dealer.
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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john black		#224 Posted : 29 April 2006 03:23:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Hi all , today I could add another old beauty to my small Gator collection. Made in Western Germany in 1981, condition "brand new", original box. She runs like a charm, even her motor smells "Eau de Marklin" ... [:p] E1020 #3159: LFCM, Analog, Heavy Metal John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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alonso231gery		#225 Posted : 29 April 2006 03:30:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Congratulations John,such a loco is in my wishlist too.
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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john black		#226 Posted : 29 April 2006 03:32:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Thanks, Nikos - it was a long search for finding a mint model. She had a good sleep in her box for 26 years, untouched, never ran. Thus she needed only minor servicing: her tractions tires had warped over the decades (first run looked a bit funny), the reverse unit spring had become way too long, and the motor bearings & gears were bone dry. But no verharzung, all parts moved just nicely. Easy fix. She's one smooth and extremely silent runner, so I'll preserve her in original analog condition
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Bob R		#227 Posted : 29 April 2006 17:50:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 502 Location: , Texas		Well John it looks like I will be joining the "Gator" Family soon. I have the 37224 on order. I have no idea when it will get here though, but hopefully sometime in the next couple of months. This will be my first Gator and probably not the la$t one either. Bob R
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john black		#228 Posted : 02 May 2006 18:46:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Very good, Bob. Since I'm not sure if I'll like that specific color combination and M's data base pics are that tiny - would you post a bigger one upon arrival, please ?
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Guus		#229 Posted : 02 May 2006 19:11:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Congratulations John,that's a very nice one [:p]. BTW got my second Gator last week a 39561 SBB Ce 6/8 III,the one in brown livery. Kind regards Guus
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john black		#230 Posted : 02 May 2006 19:30:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Thanks, Guus - and my biggest congratulations back to you [:p] And no bad idea to hurry up a bit. When 2006 is gone the last of the big C-sinus motors will be gone, too ... [:I]
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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alonso231gery		#231 Posted : 02 May 2006 19:33:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Their production will stop John? How do you know that?
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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Guus		#232 Posted : 02 May 2006 19:44:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Thank you John. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:And no bad idea to hurry up a bit. When 2006 is gone the last of the big C-sinus motors will be gone, too ...[:I] Yeah,I'm really sorry to see them go [:(] On the other hand that new small C-sine motor doesn't seem to be that bad at all.Okay most probably it is not as good as the old one but still... From what I seem to understand it is a least as good in respect to torque output as a bell type engine of comparable size. Kind regards Guus
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john black		#233 Posted : 02 May 2006 19:52:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		No big secret - only a few conclusions, Nikos: 1. The big C-sinus motor isn't compatible with MFX since M refused to do that. Talk about savings (which is a bogus since it's aficcionados gladly pay more for it) 2. Newly released Gator #37224 got no big C-sinus, anymore. Just the mediocre 5-pole motor. Back to cheaps. To put it clearly - I really like those 5-poles. In certain models. But here the big one is far superior. And if there's no big one - in a slow 'n heavy E94 a good old LFCM beats any 5-pole forty miles by sunday. 3. The very last of the big C-sinus Gators #39223 & #39560 (though still in the 2006 catalog) carry already the yellow light in the product data base. A sure sign of dissappearing, soon ...
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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john black		#234 Posted : 02 May 2006 20:03:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus <br />On the other hand that new small C-sine motor doesn't seem to be that bad at all. Okay most probably it is not as good as the old one but still ... I never said the little C-sinus is bad (well - after all that HWZ trouble I'm really not sure, anymore) OK, he might be allright for small locos ... BUT - would you really rip out that big V8 from your heavy Mercedes S-class sedan and replace it with a little four banger (= 4 cylinder motor) ?????? Same goes for heavy Gators John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Seetal		#235 Posted : 02 May 2006 21:13:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 548 Location: Maryland, USA		Just catching up on some threads. CASTRATED KROKODIL? [:0] [V][V] [:(!][:(!] just kidding I guess it reminds you of what it reminds you. It reminded me of a growing Kroc. The Seetal and regular croc look great on the tracks when they are beside each other going around R1 curves, the articulated frame well suited for R1 curves...could almost call it prototypical if you cared about that. John ps are you sure you didn't mean circumsized?
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john black		#236 Posted : 02 May 2006 22:35:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Seetal <br />It reminded me of a growing Kroc Me, too. It's a cute lil' rugrat
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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alonso231gery		#237 Posted : 03 May 2006 00:04:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		No i do not John. The actual krokodil is my favorite one(do not tell tha to my BB). But that one i cannot even stare it[}:)],it is repulsive[}:)](kidding). Someone told me some years ago to buy it instead of the 39560 and i said **** ***[}:)].
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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Guus		#238 Posted : 03 May 2006 12:14:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:originally posted by John: BUT - would you really rip out that big V8 from your heavy Mercedes S-class sedan and replace it with a little four banger (= 4 cylinder motor) ?????? I fully agree with that John . Wasn't it Caroll Shelby who said "Nothing beats cubic inches!",or was it Henry Ford? And yes I think Märklin made a big mistake by discontinuing that marvelous big C-sine motor. It surprises me anyhow why they have so many different motortypes for their big locomotives.Wouldn't one be more practical and in the end lower production costs? Kind regards Guus
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Guus		#239 Posted : 03 May 2006 12:19:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Quote: originally posted by John Seetal: [/The Seetal and regular croc look great on the tracks when they are beside each other going around R1 curves, the articulated frame well suited for R1 curves...could almost call it prototypical if you cared about that. quote] It's all a matter of taste ofcourse but I like the Seetal crocodile just as much as her bigger sister. Kind regards Guus
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SRB		#240 Posted : 03 May 2006 20:50:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/03/2006(UTC) Posts: 162 Location: ,		For me too, the Seetal belongs to the croc-family and a must have. Regards Stig
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john black		#241 Posted : 04 May 2006 01:01:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus <br />1) Wasn't it Caroll Shelby who said "Nothing beats cubic inches!", or was it Henry Ford ? 2) It surprises me anyhow why they have so many different motortypes for their big locomotives. Wouldn't one be more practical and in the end lower production costs ? ad 1) Guus, you are right - it was Mr.Shelby (Old Henry was such a scrooge. Stubborn, too ... [xx(]) ad 2) Well, you're right, again - and that's what they're doing, now. With LFCM (great for old heavy metal analog locos) gone and C-SINUS (the smoothest runner on the planet when it comes to modern heavy metal digital engines) almost gone (alas [xx(] !!!) there're only two left for propelling big locos - DCM and FAULHABER. If those two were my only choice (tomorrow ) - I'd prefer the FAULHABER for it's (relatively) smooth running characteristics. Whatever will be with M - nobody can stop us <u>today</u> in blazing away at our dealers' stock and ripping out those LFCM/C-SINUS classics. As long as they are there ... Happy hunting, John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Vardex		#242 Posted : 25 May 2006 12:49:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 402 Location: vlaardingen,		A rather rare gator on ebay right now. http://cgi.ebay.de/Markl...1557QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Bart
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john black		#243 Posted : 25 May 2006 15:28:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Yeah, she's the younger sister of my recently acquired E1020 #3159. The E1020 #33221 [:p] got the same orange hue but grey vents and roof. And she's a Delta. When I bought mine she was also available ...
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Purellum		#244 Posted : 26 May 2006 01:19:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,505 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Yellow gator ( Apparently for sale! ): http://www.maj.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=114188 White gators: http://www.infocast.dk/e...&category=ALL&q= ( ) Per.
		If you can dream it, you can do it! I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby release it into the public domain. This applies worldwide. In case this is not legally possible: I grant anyone the right to use this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions are required by law.
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nevw		#245 Posted : 27 May 2006 08:47:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw <br />John has lost one of his Gators, came knocking at the Door: Nev
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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Tony		#246 Posted : 27 May 2006 10:28:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 726 Location: Cape Town		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw <br />John has lost one of his Gators, came knocking at the Door: Nev good one
		Regards Tony
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martinfung		#247 Posted : 27 May 2006 14:41:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 198 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA		Sorry for the dumb question, since I am pretty new to MRR. Is that gator in 1 Gauge scale? Is that why people love 1 Gauge so much because it is so life like, not to mention suitable for outdoor layout? John, you do have a nice gator there. Let her in and roll on your tracks [}:)][}:)]
		Still beginner, no layout, random buying O-gauge, 3R Scale US Steamers (avatar is not of my collection, but the models are nice) Märklin HO anything :-)
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john black		#248 Posted : 27 May 2006 16:12:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw <br />John has lost one of his Gators, came knocking at the Door: Don't worry too much about him, Neville. It's only Donald, and he's a cute lil' one of generally good nature. He just doesn't like Mothers-in-Law ... so anything in the food line will do [}:)] Great shot [:p][:p][:p] John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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john black		#249 Posted : 27 May 2006 16:51:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />Well John, if you remember my pics you know that mine WAS a Delta! Right, Lutz - I do remember . Well, there are so many outa there, still. Lots of work ...
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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alonso231gery		#250 Posted : 27 May 2006 16:55:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		John do u know that pretty reptile(u have called him Donald)? He looks very aggressive.
		An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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