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Offline bph  
#1 Posted : 03 August 2022 18:00:31(UTC)
bph

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Some videos have appeared on the new Br 06 39662 Cool



I also note that some have reported issues with its running behaviour.
eg this thread:https://www.stummiforum.de/t205824f2-Probleme-mit-der-neuen-BR-bekannt.html
Has someone on this forum received theirs, and given it a test? any issues?



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Offline franciscohg  
#2 Posted : 03 August 2022 19:37:17(UTC)
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Well, i was a little worried about those reports.
I have just sent an email to my dealer and he replies that half of the locos received had the problem, so they are all on the way back to Goeppingen now and shipping processing has been delayed.
Patiente is a virtue!!!BigGrin
Best regards
Francisco
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Offline steventrain  
#3 Posted : 03 August 2022 20:27:25(UTC)
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The 39662 request for min radius curved is 437mm.

See manual page 10 wrote 'The minimum usable radius is 437,5 mm / 17,22”.'.

The video show loco slipping is on curved turnouts 24671/2 both was radius 360mm.
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Offline franciscohg  
#4 Posted : 03 August 2022 21:49:30(UTC)
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Well, it seems that there is some discrepancy about advertised/published minimum radius. Also as per marklin Mail to dealers the problem exists and they are aware of it.
My model was on hold waiting to be shipped with the cars and when asked, my dealer answered very quickly.

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Offline rbonet  
#5 Posted : 03 August 2022 21:56:48(UTC)
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Hi,
24671/2 turnouts are R2. They correspond exactly to a 24224 curved track, i.e., R2=437,5mm 24,3º.
It is a pity if the 39662 is not able to negotiate these turnouts.
Regards,
Rafael

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Online JohnjeanB  
#6 Posted : 03 August 2022 21:59:46(UTC)
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Hi BHP
Thanks for the videos.
Beautiful loco, as usual you may expect it to accept R1 (although Märklin says R2). I can see the first bogie axle "taking off" sometimes and being frozen
I trust Märklin to cover this point. The 2 other large Märklin locos I have 39241 (SNCF A65) 39243 (EST)n are riding on R1 much better that many other large Märklin locos (BR 45)
I am a bit disappointed by the pulsed steam (when compared with REE locos) and also by the sound.
The conceptor says a large LP and a "ResonnazKörper" was added but still the sound is not up to the model.
Just my opinion.
I have ordered one. We will see
Cheers
Jean
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Offline DV  
#7 Posted : 04 August 2022 05:32:05(UTC)
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From Mother Mä

We have received isolated reports from trading partners that some of the machines delivered have abnormal driving behavior in the border areas. Affected locomotives may stutter when cornering slowly.

If machines that you have received are affected by this behavior, the malfunction can already be observed on the first trip. In this case, please send the locomotives back to us. We will ensure that your locomotives are fully functional as soon as possible.



I would say that this is a loose translation from German.
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Offline river6109  
#8 Posted : 04 August 2022 06:13:55(UTC)
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It would be a serious blow if you ordered it from Australia or NZ, adding a lot of postage dollars to the loco price unless your dealer has received an update from Märklin that the loco is not fit for sale

John
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Offline Chipopo  
#9 Posted : 04 August 2022 08:16:30(UTC)
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mine arrived yesterday, so not tested yet . . .


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Offline marklinist5999  
#10 Posted : 04 August 2022 14:05:11(UTC)
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My oh my! Does Marklin not have someone to test production models before release or shipments, at least every so often during the production run?
Offline bph  
#11 Posted : 04 August 2022 15:51:04(UTC)
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it seems that Märklin has put the shipments on hold until they have investigated and hopefully solved this. (info from a dealer)
So will have to wait a bit, but that is better than having to return it.
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Offline dickinsonj  
#12 Posted : 05 August 2022 01:05:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
it seems that Märklin has put the shipments on hold until they have investigated and hopefully solved this. (info from a dealer)
So will have to wait a bit, but that is better than having to return it.


Good to know. Now I am glad that I don't have mine yet!

Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
Offline foumaro  
#13 Posted : 05 August 2022 10:15:13(UTC)
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I am much more glad i did not order this loco.BigGrin
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Offline steventrain  
#14 Posted : 05 August 2022 11:04:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
I am much more glad i did not order this loco.BigGrin


Me too, I haven't order any from Germany because of Brexit.

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Offline jcrtrains  
#15 Posted : 05 August 2022 15:18:04(UTC)
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For those who can't wait or want a slightly less expensive, proven model, I personally have always found the Brawa BR 06 to be excellent. I have had mine for close to twenty years. I suspect there is very little aesthetic difference given the streamlined body.



Brawa BR 06 Ebay

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Offline Goofy  
#16 Posted : 05 August 2022 22:49:57(UTC)
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The locomotive are big and it seems that under frame with 4 axles are not fit for the narrow curves.
Märklin recommended minimum R2 for the curves and turnouts.
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Offline David Dewar  
#17 Posted : 05 August 2022 23:44:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
I am much more glad i did not order this loco.BigGrin


Me too, I haven't order any from Germany because of Brexit.



STEPHEN If you want this Loco why not buy from Germany. Dealer will deduct VAT and it is not a problem sending it to your country. Buying in the UK would cost considerably more. Would wait though to ensure the problem has been fixed.

Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline dickinsonj  
#18 Posted : 06 August 2022 01:39:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post

I am a bit disappointed by the pulsed steam (when compared with REE locos) and also by the sound.

In the first video the steam effect was diminished by the light backgrounds IMO. I thought that it look very nice in the second video. The third was obviously a hit job - causing it to fail and then documenting it.

Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post
The conceptor says a large LP and a "ResonnazKörper" was added but still the sound is not up to the model.

I agree that the lcoc sounds on the videos were not impressive. But then that could easily be a function of the quality of the recording source. If it was done on a phone it is probably not realistic, at least in my experience.

I am willing to sacrifice by getting one and hearing for myself. BigGrin

I will report! ThumpUp
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
Offline clapcott  
#19 Posted : 06 August 2022 02:55:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rbonet Go to Quoted Post
24671/2 turnouts are R2. They correspond exactly to a 24224 curved track, i.e., R2=437,5mm 24,3º.

I do not believe this is correct.

Refer pg7 & 8
https://static.maerklin....b114c038d61569316941.pdf


Peter
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Offline rbonet  
#20 Posted : 06 August 2022 08:43:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: clapcott Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: rbonet Go to Quoted Post
24671/2 turnouts are R2. They correspond exactly to a 24224 curved track, i.e., R2=437,5mm 24,3º.

I do not believe this is correct.

Refer pg7 & 8
https://static.maerklin....b114c038d61569316941.pdf




You are right, I was thinking on the 24611/2. My mistake.

Collecting Era I, II & III, mainly German, French & Spanish RR, some USA
Offline bph  
#21 Posted : 06 August 2022 12:26:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
The 39662 request for min radius curved is 437mm.

See manual page 10 wrote 'The minimum usable radius is 437,5 mm / 17,22”.'.

The video show loco slipping is on curved turnouts 24671/2 both was radius 360mm.

Hi
Marklin writes this on the 39662 web product page: (the text can also be found in the Märklin New Items Catalog 2022 and in the insider magazine)
The locomotive can be run without limitation on the 437.5 mm / 17-1/4" radius (Radius 2) if attention is paid to the clearance gauge. The locomotive can also be run on the 360 mm / 14-3/16" radius (Radius 1) if the clearance gauge is ignored.
However, this text is not present on the german page......
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