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Offline eduard71  
#1 Posted : 13 June 2021 01:53:07(UTC)
eduard71

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Hello all,

Another model from Märklin is presenting problems with Zinkpest. This time is the 37501. I have used this model only a few times and today I decided to run it and it was stock, one side of the driving set was not runnig. I decided to make an inspection and after reviewing I saw the problem it is Zinkpest in one of the bogies of the motorized car, the other bogie is perfect with no sign of zinkpest. Actually the boige came apart when I inspected it.

This will be my third model with the problem. Until now I have had this issue with:

36805 Koff green

37521 Seethal brown

37501 DB 420

I am attaching some photos for your reference and I have sent an mail to Markln Service. Also, I did some research in the Stummi Forum and the problem has been discussed since 2019 when some members also found their models damaged. Some of the members in the Stummi have indicated that Marklin has repair the train for around 105 euros plus shipment. I would be more interested in getting the replacement bogie but in the parts databese of Marklin the it is not available.

I will let you know what Marklin responses.

37501.5.jpg37501.3.jpg37501.4.jpg37501.2.jpg37501-1.jpg

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Offline xxup  
#2 Posted : 13 June 2021 02:55:28(UTC)
xxup

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Hmmm.. I expect that the rear and front bogies were made of the same stuff - I would be trying to get both bogies replaced by Marklin..
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Offline mvd71  
#3 Posted : 13 June 2021 06:03:45(UTC)
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If it is zinkpest I would expect Märklin to replace it at no cost. It only occurs because of a poor quality casting.
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Offline marklinist5999  
#4 Posted : 13 June 2021 15:57:42(UTC)
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Marklin will not warranty anything made under Kingsbridge Capital holding ownership. The first two above itmes were. An expection may possibly be an insider model.
Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 14 June 2021 10:16:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post
Yes just after WW2 it delivered items prone to "Zinkpest" but it was corrected by a series of measures. [...]
Bravo Märklin keep on the good work.
Another case of "Zinkpest".
Bad for Märklin's reputation if they cannot offer an affordable remedy to affected customers. Even if that model was made before insolvency and under different management/ownership.

Regards
Tom
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Offline marklinist5999  
#6 Posted : 14 June 2021 11:07:13(UTC)
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Ethically, yes Tom! The same applies for General Motors, etc. Whom failed to warrant defective vehicles or components in vehicles produced before the 2009 bankruptcy, claiming that legally that was a different company.
Offline H0  
#7 Posted : 14 June 2021 13:13:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
Marklin will not warranty anything made under Kingsbridge Capital holding ownership.
The item 37501 was made under insolvency management before Simba Dickie took over.

Regards
Tom
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Offline Drongo  
#8 Posted : 14 June 2021 13:42:24(UTC)
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I've been accused of "Marklin Bashing" - well this supports my claims.
Take it easy . . . . or any other way you can get it !!!!
Website - www.simplesite.com/gregstrain
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Offline hxmiesa  
#9 Posted : 14 June 2021 19:36:11(UTC)
hxmiesa

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In my opinion Märklin HAS to to take action on this problem. It´s a very modern model.
To hide behind the excuse that it was done while under another ownership does not really hold water...
First off, most buyers will go for the BRAND, regardless of the actual owner. He might not even be aware of who was the owner at the moment of production.
Secondly, the new owners bought the company because they see value in the know-how and name, so are morally and logically obliged to defend that standpoint, if they want to keep their investment.

Actually, this model is discussed on Stummis since 2017.
But even if the model of the OP is no longer produced and spare parts seems unavailable, they DID issue a new model in 2019; M37508 | T22655 -maybe your needed part can still be obtained under another ref.?

Edited by user 15 June 2021 07:14:42(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Best regards
Henrik Hoexbroe ("The Dane In Spain")
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Offline Mr. Ron  
#10 Posted : 15 June 2021 03:10:11(UTC)
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If Marklin wants to maintain their reputation for quality trains, they SHOULD make good on the faulty zinc castings.
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Offline marklinist5999  
#11 Posted : 15 June 2021 14:15:49(UTC)
marklinist5999

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Think they are reading? Do they care? Both my Trostberg Koff, and first issue SBB DE 6/6 Seetal have it.
Offline marklinist5999  
#12 Posted : 15 June 2021 14:17:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
Think they are reading? Do they care? Both my Trostberg Koff, and first issue SBB DE 6/6 Seetal have it.


Mad Had we all not bought our affected models, or much else, would Simba Dickie have wanted the company? We all know what happens when there are no buyers.
Offline mvd71  
#13 Posted : 16 June 2021 05:52:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
Think they are reading? Do they care? Both my Trostberg Koff, and first issue SBB DE 6/6 Seetal have it.


Mad Had we all not bought our affected models, or much else, would Simba Dickie have wanted the company? We all know what happens when there are no buyers.


Quite right, it has been our collective purchases that keep our favourite company afloat and whilst the product in question may be out of warranty, it would be nice to think they would look after the owners of these models given the nature of the defect.
Offline 60904  
#14 Posted : 04 July 2021 13:42:47(UTC)
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Hi, send the bogies to Märklin an d see what will happen. Very likely they might send new ones at no cost.
Greetings
Martin
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