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Offline Rohit279  
#1 Posted : 30 August 2019 23:13:08(UTC)
Rohit279

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Hi Friends,

I recently oiled a few of my wagons... I used a regular machine oil to do this. Immediately after doing so, I ran my train and noted that the loco started slipping. It seems that sone of the oil from the axels would have spread on the tracks and consequently on the loco's wheels. As a result, I note that the loco's wheels start spinning at few points on the layout which slows down the train despite it being at full throttle.


Any suggestion to resolve this ? Also, which is the best way to clean the tracks. I have C tracks. I saw some on the youtube suggesting car automatic transmission oil for this job. Is this safe ? Wouldn't this cause wheel slippage ?

Mellow Mellow Mellow
Offline PeFu  
#2 Posted : 31 August 2019 07:06:47(UTC)
PeFu

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I use clean isopropanol (a.k.a. isopropyl alcohol) for cleaning tracks, and it should also work for your cars. I use it with fabrics. It sounds like you need a lot...
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Offline Rohit279  
#3 Posted : 31 August 2019 07:45:34(UTC)
Rohit279

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Thanks PeFU.... great idea ! ... I have a lot of alcohol swabs in my first aid kit which has 70% isopropyl alcohol content. I will use the same to clean the tracks and engine wheels ...
Offline costing  
#4 Posted : 31 August 2019 09:12:57(UTC)
costing

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A very informative article on what (not) to use on the rails: https://model-railroad-h...19-05/publishers-musings

In particular alcohol should not be used, see there for alternatives (mineral spirits for example, or any contact cleaner, graphite ...).

Cheers,

.costin
JMRI on RPi & DCC++ / C-track / Marklin (SBB Re 4/4 II, Ee 3/3, DB BR 24, BR 233), Roco (DB BR 103, BR 215, CFR 040-EC-001), ESU engineering (DB 265 MRCE) / Christmas car collector
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Offline Joe Meiring  
#5 Posted : 31 August 2019 14:35:40(UTC)
Joe Meiring

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I've always had success using the M cleaning wagon fitted with the 2 cleaning pads, plus one or two wagons with a slider coupled to one of my tank locos. A few laps at high speed around the circuit is all that is needed. Until recently, that is, when I noticed during our Cape winter (lots of rain and very cold weather) that some of the garage walls (where my layout is kept) were completely damp!! Been wondering why the trains haven't been running smoothly of late! So this summer I'll have to scrape off the damp paint, apply damp seal and repaint again!.... And clean out the gutters and downpipes ....and maybe install a heater or two😱 .....
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Offline michelvr  
#6 Posted : 31 August 2019 15:48:04(UTC)
michelvr

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Hello Rohit,

That's a question that will give you one hundred answers! BigGrin

My favourite and all time go to cleaner for HO nickel silver track which Märklin C track is made from is GOO GONE. Which is sparingly used and then wiped clean after I apply it to the tracks. A few drops go along way and I alway use a new piece of Scott’s Shop towels for the application and then the wiping/cleaning. It removes the grease, oil and rubber which inadvertently is attracted to the rails from the wheels of our model trains. What is also very important is to vacuum the rails to remove dust and accumulated fluff (dirt) which settles on the tracks over time.

Here is their link for all of their products - https://googone.com/

Now for a link on what the product can be used on - https://googone.com/howt...s-goo-gone-work-on-that/

Please remember to use it sparingly!

You will most undoubtedly get many reply’s but please if someone mentions to use very fine sand paper or emery cloth, don't do that! All that will do is cause more problems like scratching the rail surface which in turns causes more dirt and grime to adhere to the top of the rails.

All the best! Michel
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Offline TEEWolf  
#7 Posted : 31 August 2019 15:48:06(UTC)
TEEWolf

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Originally Posted by: Rohit279 Go to Quoted Post
Thanks PeFU.... great idea ! ... I have a lot of alcohol swabs in my first aid kit which has 70% isopropyl alcohol content. I will use the same to clean the tracks and engine wheels ...


Some more ideas (only an excerpt) for track cleaning by members at MUN:

https://www.marklin-user...cience-of-track-cleaning

https://www.marklin-user...5-Track-cleaning-machine

https://www.marklin-user...ack-center-stud-cleaning
CS 3 is a controller system from Märklin - not a central station.
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Offline Jabez  
#8 Posted : 31 August 2019 21:50:40(UTC)
Jabez

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Originally Posted by: costing Go to Quoted Post
A very informative article
.costin

It is indeed, I first read it some time ago and I am glad that you have resurrected it. It is also included in one of the links in the TEEWolf post above this.
Jabez
I heard that lonesome whistle blow. Hank Williams
Offline Rohit279  
#9 Posted : 02 September 2019 17:14:11(UTC)
Rohit279

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Quite informative !!!! thanks to all for the advice / suggestions ! Gr8 to know that there is helpful community around when stuck !!

Cheers !!!!!
Offline Minok  
#10 Posted : 03 September 2019 21:11:36(UTC)
Minok

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Isopropyl alcohol should theoretically not be used. It does clean the track, but it also attracts additional dirt due to the way the molecules work.
Wahl clipper oil, or maybe WD40 to clean and then a slight inside-the-rail rub with a graphite stick appears the way to go.

https://www.marklin-user...rack-cleaning#post593209
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Offline PeFu  
#11 Posted : 04 September 2019 13:12:01(UTC)
PeFu

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This is interesting! What effect does WD40 have on ballast (using K tracks) and rail paint? Blink
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Offline Minok  
#12 Posted : 04 September 2019 21:34:15(UTC)
Minok

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From the WD40 website: "WD-40® Multi-Use Product is safe to use on the following plastics and rubbers: neoprene/hard rubber, buna/nitrile, EPDM, HDPE, Viton, ABS Plastic and vinyl. In addition, it can be used safely on the following metals: copper with unpolished finish, magnesium, aluminum, steel with unpolished finish, galvanized steel, and stainless steel. Although WD-40 Multi-Use Product can be used on a variety of surfaces we recommend testing in an inconspicuous area before larger application." - https://www.wd40.com/how-to/faqs/


The thinking on paint is that it is ok for paint, but it may depend on the type of paint: "WD40 does not harm paint, it is silcone-based like many modern car waxes and polishes. Contrary to many recommendations here, you can leave it on the paint without harmful effect, other than it looks like crap - all oily and greasy and attracting dust. WD40 is perfect for removing bugs and tar.May 22, 2006
Will WD40 damage the paint? - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums"

But its just one of the better options than isopropyl alcohol.

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Offline rbw993  
#13 Posted : 04 September 2019 21:52:57(UTC)
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I wouldn't spray it onto the track. Spray on a cloth and wipe.
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Offline Minok  
#14 Posted : 04 September 2019 22:04:09(UTC)
Minok

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Yeah; I"m looking for one I can put in the tank of a cleaning car to be wiped on... so it just needs to not harm the cleaning car's bits. An aerosol, which likely evaporates very quick, may not be ideal...
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