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gachar001		#1 Posted : 20 May 2008 20:03:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,391 Location: Chennai		I purchased a DB BR01 Witte Windleitbleche ohne Schurze BR01, 3 rail AC, Loksound (14-717) from Factory Direct Trains. It has a Loksound 3.5 decoder and was a great deal. Here is the post on this loco. https://www.marklin-user...ault.aspx?g=posts&t=9644 I have an issue with the smoke generator. It always stays on regardless of the icon on the function button. I contacted Broadway Limited Imports (the manufacturer) and got an email response that said "The decoder does not control the smoke generator. I don’t know exactly where you have your smoke unit connected, but it sounds like you have it wired directly to a pick up, so whenever there’s voltage going to the smoke generator, it is running. The BR 01 decoder is not designed to control the smoke unit. We hoped to offer this feature originally, but we were not able to. Sincerely, Matthew Williamson Broadway Limited Imports, LLC" From reading the posts on this loco, I got the impression that the smoke generator can be turned on and off using F4. Can anyone who owns this loco confirm? Thanks
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mmervine		#2 Posted : 20 May 2008 20:20:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,893 Location: Keene, NH		Gautham: I have not added a smoke unit to mine, but you need to make sure that the aux function that corresponds to the wire you used to power the smoke until is mapped to F4 on the LS3.5. r/mark
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gachar001		#3 Posted : 20 May 2008 20:58:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,391 Location: Chennai		Mark, I only have a MS so I am not able to make changes. I programmed my MS with loco #39103 from the database. My loco works fine but the symbols are incorrect. Light symbol = long whistle Smoke symbol = sound on/off Whistle symbol = Short whistle Sound symbol = smoke (I think. Since I am not able to make it turn off). All the other functions work fine although with interchanged symbols. I am assuming that if there is no symbol on the MS, there is no function associated with it. As I had pointed in the other post on this loco, I had a lot of trouble installing the generator. Even though there was voltage coming to the contacts, the smoke generator would not work. When I looked into the smoke stack, I could see a black wire obstructing the bottom contact. Finally, I pried open the bottom contact on the seuthe so that it is pointing downwards instead of sideways and got it working. Factory direct trains has a good return policy so I may return this loco and get another one.
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Goofy		#4 Posted : 20 May 2008 22:09:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		The smoke unit is always been using at function 2 by control it. Well anyway from Marklin and Trix... Check after if there is an reservation cable from sounddecoder,so you can connecting it at smokestack under the chimney. Make sure first,that smokestack must isolation from pickup shoe. Goofy
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H0		#5 Posted : 20 May 2008 22:34:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,432 Location: DE-NW		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by gachar001 <br />I programmed my MS with loco #39103 from the database. My loco works fine but the symbols are incorrect. If you use #37540 you can access 9 functions (still with incorrect symbols). Write 27 into CV #49 to activate second decoder address.
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xxup		#6 Posted : 21 May 2008 01:47:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Okay I promise to go to Noel's today and get the suethe and see if I can work out how to fix this smoke problem on this loco... I will pull it apart and see where the wire goes.. It is really odd that Broadway Limited did not know how the smoke generator was connected....
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mmervine		#7 Posted : 21 May 2008 02:41:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,893 Location: Keene, NH		Adrian: Pictures please...I would like to add smoke to mine as well. r/mark
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laalves		#8 Posted : 21 May 2008 04:32:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		This most likely means that the smoke generator they used draws too much current. You may need to use a relay to control it, and a function from the decoder to control the relay. Now, it may also happen that the decoder hasn't got enough functions for the smoker, e.g., they have used AUX1 and AUX2 to control something else (lights?). In this case, you may still wire the relay in parallel to one of those functions and control the smoker, albeit simultaneously with something else. Luís
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xxup		#9 Posted : 21 May 2008 05:12:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Photos commence in two hours and I expect you guys to help when I get into strife!
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mmervine		#10 Posted : 21 May 2008 05:21:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,893 Location: Keene, NH		Adrian...we have your back!
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xxup		#11 Posted : 21 May 2008 10:42:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Ah.. Small hitch in the plan... I have the Seuthe and I know how to get the loco apart, but Miss 8's camera has flat batteries.. A couple of hours they should be charged... Hang in there...
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nevw		#12 Posted : 21 May 2008 12:48:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by xxup <br />Ah.. Small hitch in the plan... I have the Seuthe and I know how to get the loco apart, but Miss 8's camera has flat batteries.. A couple of hours they should be charged... Hang in there... Oh the problems of a House Dad
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Bigdaddynz		#13 Posted : 21 May 2008 13:53:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by xxup <br />Ah.. Small hitch in the plan... I have the Seuthe and I know how to get the loco apart, but Miss 8's camera has flat batteries.. A couple of hours they should be charged... Hang in there... Where's the backup plan?? Where's the redundancy?? Geez!![:I][:I]
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xxup		#14 Posted : 21 May 2008 14:08:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		It's hard... Miss 8's dead camera battery is just the start of a hormonal change that eventually leads to empty fuel tanks, ice cube trays and dead mobile phones.... You can't have a backup plan for nature...
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xxup		#15 Posted : 21 May 2008 14:38:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		The recommended smoke unit is the Seuthe 11 as shown below. The kit includes: 1. A manual 2. A syringe with a very sharp needle 3. Smoke unit (the brass thing in the green bag) 4. A bottle of smoke oil. Warning: Do not inject yourself with the smoke oil or anything else for that matter... The next component is the locomotive in the cradle.. See below: These are easily made from wood and lined with a firm, but flexible foam like material.. I am using the Marklin 70900 tool set for the operation..
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Bigdaddynz		#16 Posted : 21 May 2008 14:48:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Yeah, Yeah Yeah, Yeah........ You've got me on the edge of my seat!! Urrrrggghhhh Where's the rest of the info?? It's like a cracking good novel that someone has ripped the last chapter out of......[:0][:0][:0][:0]
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xxup		#17 Posted : 21 May 2008 14:55:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Now it is time to review the first screw.. Remove the screw that is just behind the pilot truck and forward of the slider... See the blue arrow in the image below... Now gently pull the both air tanks away from the body.. Very delicate pieces here.. See blue circles and arrows in the image below:
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xxup		#18 Posted : 21 May 2008 15:03:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		At this point the axle assembly can move up slightly and away from the boiler and tender.. If everything is going okay it should look like the image below: Make sure that you don't lose the piece circled in the image.. Now disconnect the cable that goes from the boiler to the motor (man that's a small motor!) at the plug... You can see it resting on the wooden operating table in the image above...
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xxup		#19 Posted : 21 May 2008 15:19:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		At this point I am really starting to regret pulling this one apart... Everything is soooooooo fragile... In fact.. I do not recommend that you go any further... The next stage is to get inside the boiler.. To do this seprate the two air lines that go to the front of the loco.. They should "pop" out... Then remove the screw and the tape shown on the picture below.. Now raise the skirt to access the lower black panel of the boiler... See below for the mess I am in now... The circle shows one of the forward air lines that has to be disconnected from the metal boiler... The arrows show the edge of the panel that will be removed from the boiler...
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xxup		#20 Posted : 21 May 2008 15:54:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		With the cover off you can see the boiler circuit board... Despite how the picture looks the smoke contact does not touch the light, but the circuit on the board suggests that they are wired together... Suggesting that the smoke generator may only work when the lights are on??? The pink arrow points to the screw that holds down the circuit board... When the board is lifted you can see the black earth lead sitting over the smoke hole in front of the contact for the smoke generator... I have traced the line in blue to make it clearer... Not a good design and a possible source of problems when installing the smoke generator from the top... A side view of the board shows the 9 pin plug (circled) under the board that goes to the decoder in the tender.. The other plug goes to the motor...
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xxup		#21 Posted : 21 May 2008 16:17:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Accessing the decoder is easy.. Simply use a small screw driver to separate the plastic tender body away at the four slots shown in the picture.. Here is the decoder..
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xxup		#22 Posted : 21 May 2008 16:20:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Tomorrow I will use a multimeter on the boiler curcuit board to see where all the pins go.. At this stage I am thinking of cutting the track from the contact to the light circuit and running a wire from the contact to a pin that is fed from a function outlet of the decoder.. This is where I need your help guys... Are people interested in this? Do I keep posting what I am doing??? Cheers
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tekin65		#23 Posted : 21 May 2008 17:12:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Yeah, yeah, yeah! It's live watching a live surgery [:p] I know a few guys who purchased this model would be very very interested. Cem.
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martinfung		#24 Posted : 21 May 2008 21:35:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 198 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA		Adrian, I am not so sure the decoder can be used to switch the smoke unit. Thanks to the tips from this board, I purchased couple of these PCM BR01. One of the unit was DOA. When I called PCM, the tech support personnel thought it may be the decoder was not fitted on the 21-pin socket properly. Long story short, the decoder card was firmly seated, but after I removed and reinserted the card, the lok works. When I called back to update the guy, I mentioned F4 doesn't seem to do anything, and wondered will it be used to control the smoke unit (as I have none installed). He said he is not totally familiar with this lok, but if there is no relay after the decoder, then that function is not supported. He told me PCM had problems in the past in which decoder burnt out due to the high current draw by the smoke unit. So they are not doing that function any more (without a relay). Adrian, if you are going to drive the smoke unit directly from the decoder, you need to be careful about the current draw. It might kill the decoder after some usage. On a side note, comparing to my 39010, the PCM is actually pretty good in details, driving characteristic (although only 14 speed steps), and sounds (7 directly switchable plus random sounds). Oh, PCM also uses golden-white LEDs. The minuses are you need to install the supplied details yourself (PCM saved on labor cost), and with so many fine details, it is a bit harder to handle than the 39010, plastic smoke deflectors, and no switchable smoke function.
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gachar001		#25 Posted : 21 May 2008 21:41:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,391 Location: Chennai		I tried opening the loco too but quit after the second step Bending the Seuthe's pin downward helped. It probably bypassed the black wire that was coming in my way while installing the smoke generator from the top. So it looks like everyone has this problem (not able to turn smoke on/off). Ordered a new loco yesterday to see if the smoke works correctly on the new one. Shipping is cheap... so what the hell... Will keep you posted.
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martinfung		#26 Posted : 21 May 2008 22:12:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 198 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA		That's probably why the smoke stack is a separately installed part, to facilitate installing the smoke unit from top. To be honest, I am not that crazy about smoke generator in HO any more. Until they can synchronize it with wheel spin and increase the holding capacity for longer usage, I will stop at what I have.
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H0		#27 Posted : 21 May 2008 22:50:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,432 Location: DE-NW		Hi! Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by martinfung <br />although only 14 speed steps I dunno which central you are using - with a CS you can use 28 speed steps.
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martinfung		#28 Posted : 22 May 2008 00:20:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 198 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA		You're probably right. All I can remember was it's reduced unless I am using DCC. This was the first time I wished CS can speak DCC too. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by h-zero <br />Hi! Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by martinfung <br />although only 14 speed steps I dunno which central you are using - with a CS you can use 28 speed steps.
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Guus		#29 Posted : 22 May 2008 00:26:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Adrian: <br />Tomorrow I will use a multimeter on the boiler curcuit board to see where all the pins go.. At this stage I am thinking of cutting the track from the contact to the light circuit and running a wire from the contact to a pin that is fed from a function outlet of the decoder.. This is where I need your help guys... Are people interested in this? Do I keep posting what I am doing??? Cheers Hi Adrian, First of all congratulations with this nice model. This is very interesting,please go on with your model description. Kind regards Guus
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Bigdaddynz		#30 Posted : 22 May 2008 00:34:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Adrian, keep at it you are doing great.
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nevw		#31 Posted : 22 May 2008 01:28:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Yes Adrian, Keep going. a magnificent step by step pictorial manual. When finished and working I will book mine in for Surgery with you. the 2nd one will be easier to do. Nev
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xxup		#32 Posted : 22 May 2008 01:53:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Ah.. A relay sounds good... I hope that they are very very very small... What do I ask for????
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xxup		#33 Posted : 22 May 2008 01:56:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw <br />When finished and working I will book mine in for Surgery with you. the 2nd one will be easier to do. I dunno Nev.. I am not 100% sure that this one will run again... Compared to the Marklin stuff, this baby is very flimsy and clearly not designed to be maintained by users... In fact, aside from a decoder swap out I suspect that any other fault results in a total replacement..
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mmervine		#34 Posted : 22 May 2008 03:16:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,893 Location: Keene, NH		Adrian: Uncle! After seeing what you are going through, mine will remain smoke free. r/mark
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Macfire		#35 Posted : 22 May 2008 04:30:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by xxup <br />It's hard... Miss 8's dead camera battery is just the start of a hormonal change that eventually leads to empty fuel tanks, ice cube trays and dead mobile phones.... You can't have a backup plan for nature... Just wait.. Neighbourhood boys start hanging around = empty fridges added to the list. Then there is the cost of shotgun shells as well
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Macfire		#36 Posted : 22 May 2008 04:33:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine <br />Adrian: Uncle! After seeing what you are going through, mine will remain smoke free. r/mark Adrian. Great pics thank you very much. I feel like I know that loco intimately but then again - I never opened the box Like Mark, having seen the serious surgery you have undertaken, mine too will remain smoke-free.
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mmervine		#37 Posted : 22 May 2008 04:39:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,893 Location: Keene, NH		just mark!
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xxup		#38 Posted : 22 May 2008 04:40:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine <br />After seeing what you are going through, mine will remain smoke free. Yes... I can understand this.. My goal with this exercise was to understand the innards of this loco and to determine if there was a reliable way to add switchable smoke.. Certainly, it is confirmed that adding a seuthe will work, but contrary to my earlier comments the power to the smoke is not linked with the power to the front lights... I have read the loksound manual and it seems to state that the decoder will handle a seuthe 11 (in fact it mentions this specifically), but what is unclear at this stage is where it might connect.. But then I still have to finish reading all of the loksound manual... [:I]
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Macfire		#39 Posted : 22 May 2008 05:00:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine <br />just mark! Hi Just Mark Me Tony [}:)] [}:)] Post edited above for ya
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mmervine		#40 Posted : 22 May 2008 05:04:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,893 Location: Keene, NH		Thanks Tony! I wonder if Adrian will get his BR01 put back together?
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Macfire		#41 Posted : 22 May 2008 05:09:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Good point Mark. Adrian. Still mulling over the possibility of getting the 718 model as well [}:)][}:)]
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xxup		#42 Posted : 22 May 2008 05:15:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Hmmm.. I am not sure that I would buy another one.. One thing that concerns me is the contact straps that rest on vertial pins... What happens when they lose tension or get some form of contact problem.. (see below) It is a major exercise to clean them up... You see that the ones that rub on the wheels are already dirty...
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mmervine		#43 Posted : 22 May 2008 05:23:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,893 Location: Keene, NH		This makes one appreciate Marklin engineering! They aren't always perfect, but most engines come apart with one or two screws. mark
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xxup		#44 Posted : 22 May 2008 11:02:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		I need some help.. The decoder does not have coloured wires... Can someone please tell me what the 9 pin connectors should be.. I have worked out that on one end the track ground (wheels) is connected and I know the two pins for the motor, but I can't work out the others...
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tekin65		#45 Posted : 22 May 2008 11:03:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine <br />This makes one appreciate Marklin engineering! They aren't always perfect, but most engines come apart with one or two screws. mark Hi "just Mark" , I've done many repairs for my friends here; FLM, Roco, Liliput, Brawa, Gützold ... mainly. Forget Liliput, they're nightmare. But honestly, after all that blood sweat and tears I should say that technically M* is the best with no runner-ups. As far as my experience with them, the only match for M* is Hag - technically. Cem.
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Bigdaddynz		#46 Posted : 22 May 2008 12:22:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Well this thread has definitely put me off buying one of the Precision Craft Models BR01. I like to fit smokers to my steam engines, and this is way too hard compared with Marklin lcocs and smoke units. That and the fact that someone else mentioned these locos can't climb inclines very well. Pity really.
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Bigdaddynz		#47 Posted : 22 May 2008 12:23:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		P.S Adrian, hope you get yours all back together OK!!
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nevw		#48 Posted : 22 May 2008 13:01:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		ALthough I have a Smoker my BR 01 shall remain a Non Smoker like Me.
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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Bigdaddynz		#49 Posted : 22 May 2008 13:25:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Nev, I've been watching your video of your layout with the 2 Rheingold trains running. You have inclines on your layout, how does your PCM BR01 handle them?
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xxup		#50 Posted : 23 May 2008 03:15:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Well I have finally cracked it and the news looks good.. Nev will have to confirm this with his loco... After removing the 9 pin plug to the decoder I noticed some writing on the board.. (see picture below) I can now conclude: Pins numbered from the top of the board Pin 1 - Trk (L) - Track left Pin 2 - Mot- - Motor Negative Pin 3 - +24V - +Power to items like lights and smoke (see prior posting) Pin 4 - Smo - Smoke Generator Pin 5 - A2 Pin 6 - A1 - Not sure as it is a little unclear Pin 7 - (F)UG - This is where the other end of the lights go Pin 8 - Mot+ - Motor Positive Pin 9 - Trk (R) - From Centre Rail To check the theory that pin 4 is controlling the smoke I traced the connections. On the boiler board I confirmed that the smoke earth was connected to pin 4.. Then on the decoder I traced pin 4 to Pin 3 of the 8 pin plug to confirm that it is connected to F1.. See below.. Therefore I conclude that a eCOS or Lokprogrammer should be able to assign an unused function to the smoker.. The bad news is that the MS will not be able to do this... Please note that this was done on the 717 model and the configuration of the 718 may be completely different... Over to you Nev... Cheers
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