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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#101 Posted : 30 January 2024 07:26:48(UTC)
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Offline rbw993  
#102 Posted : 30 January 2024 14:43:02(UTC)
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Jonas,
You mentioned version 2.5.2 in your post. I assume that was a typo?

Roger
Offline jonas_sthlm  
#103 Posted : 30 January 2024 15:23:32(UTC)
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Yes, and i write in my post (If you like to have the file send me a pm.) Blink
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Offline Diesel2000  
#104 Posted : 08 February 2024 16:29:54(UTC)
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I cant seem to get the downgrade to 2.4.1 or the upgrade to 2.5.2 to work via the USB stick. Has anyone else experienced this?

I disconnected the LAN connection and plugged USB into one of the white USB ports, then held left red button + stop until the screen changed. Version still remains as 2.5.1. The same thing happens with 2.5.2 update. The CS3+ does not recognized the upgrade to start the normal procedure.

I'm putting the file in root on the USB and only have the 1 for each attempt. Using ex-FAT format for the USB.

Any ideas?
Offline bph  
#105 Posted : 08 February 2024 16:54:12(UTC)
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Märklin is in the final testing stage of a new update, so if it passes it will be officially released fairly quickly.
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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#106 Posted : 08 February 2024 19:38:56(UTC)
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Yes we know what Märklin mean with quickly LOL

Maybe it would be better if they called it 2.5.3 instead otherwise it will be very confusing with existing spread BETA version Confused

Edited by user 09 February 2024 07:07:57(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline NewComix  
#107 Posted : 08 February 2024 20:13:08(UTC)
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Hi,

the version 2.5.2 is expected to be available by the end of February.

Kind regards
Jörg

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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#108 Posted : 09 February 2024 11:49:01(UTC)
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Damn weird that they send out the information by "Märklin Dealer News 04-2024"

Is it now the dealer who presses the update button at home Confused

Perhaps the dealers can fix the broken links on their home page too since er two months LOL

So for god sake get a real BLOG/FORUM or minimum communicate through Facebook (with only slimy advertising ads) like everyone else Angry
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Offline marklinist5999  
#109 Posted : 09 February 2024 11:59:31(UTC)
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When Marklin releases it, the red dot will show up on the CS3 system menu. Why stress it? We can still run traffic.
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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#110 Posted : 09 February 2024 12:07:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
When Marklin releases it, the red dot will show up on the CS3 system menu. Why stress it? We can still run traffic.


How do you know that all others train is still running like yours?
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Offline marklinist5999  
#111 Posted : 09 February 2024 13:27:46(UTC)
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I din't mean they do run like mine. Even if you use another automation software package, and are having issues, with other manufatuurers decoders, etc., you can at least still run trains using only basic CS3 functions.
Offline ZillerPunk  
#112 Posted : 09 February 2024 23:26:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Diesel2000 Go to Quoted Post
I cant seem to get the downgrade to 2.4.1 or the upgrade to 2.5.2 to work via the USB stick. Has anyone else experienced this?

I disconnected the LAN connection and plugged USB into one of the white USB ports, then held left red button + stop until the screen changed. Version still remains as 2.5.1. The same thing happens with 2.5.2 update. The CS3+ does not recognized the upgrade to start the normal procedure.

I'm putting the file in root on the USB and only have the 1 for each attempt. Using ex-FAT format for the USB.

Any ideas?



This sounds like a repeat of my own experience, turned out my CS3+ didn't recognise the USB drive I was using. I changed the USB drive and it worked first time.

I suspect that the CS3+ may be fussy about the types or possibly the capacity of USB drives used, I only mention the capacity aspect as I swapped from a 6GB drive that didn't work to a 1GB one that did!
Offline kiwiAlan  
#113 Posted : 10 February 2024 18:43:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Diesel2000 Go to Quoted Post
I cant seem to get the downgrade to 2.4.1 or the upgrade to 2.5.2 to work via the USB stick. Has anyone else experienced this?

I disconnected the LAN connection and plugged USB into one of the white USB ports, then held left red button + stop until the screen changed. Version still remains as 2.5.1. The same thing happens with 2.5.2 update. The CS3+ does not recognized the upgrade to start the normal procedure.

I'm putting the file in root on the USB and only have the 1 for each attempt. Using ex-FAT format for the USB.

Any ideas?


Don't use ex-FAT, use FAT32. If the stick is to large a capacity to use FAT32 then that is another part of your problem. Don't use a stick bigger than 32GB.

I would also suggest to use the menu to select loading from the stick.

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Offline Diesel2000  
#114 Posted : 13 February 2024 02:43:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post


Don't use ex-FAT, use FAT32. If the stick is to large a capacity to use FAT32 then that is another part of your problem. Don't use a stick bigger than 32GB.

I would also suggest to use the menu to select loading from the stick.



Thank you! I was using a 64GB USB with exFAT and it was not being recognized. I found an old 4GB stick and reformatted it to FAT32 and put the 2.5.2 file onto it and the CS3 recognized it on restart and I was able to successfully update to the beta version.

I really appreciate the help on this one as its been driving me nuts for a few weeks not being able to run via PC control. Now the feedbacks are working again.

Offline QQQ1970  
#115 Posted : 13 February 2024 03:33:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Diesel2000 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post


Don't use ex-FAT, use FAT32. If the stick is to large a capacity to use FAT32 then that is another part of your problem. Don't use a stick bigger than 32GB.

I would also suggest to use the menu to select loading from the stick.



Thank you! I was using a 64GB USB with exFAT and it was not being recognized. I found an old 4GB stick and reformatted it to FAT32 and put the 2.5.2 file onto it and the CS3 recognized it on restart and I was able to successfully update to the beta version.

I really appreciate the help on this one as its been driving me nuts for a few weeks not being able to run via PC control. Now the feedbacks are working again.



Where can I find v2.5.2?
Offline NewComix  
#116 Posted : 14 February 2024 22:33:16(UTC)
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Hi,
Originally Posted by: QQQ1970 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Diesel2000 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post


Don't use ex-FAT, use FAT32. If the stick is to large a capacity to use FAT32 then that is another part of your problem. Don't use a stick bigger than 32GB.

I would also suggest to use the menu to select loading from the stick.



Thank you! I was using a 64GB USB with exFAT and it was not being recognized. I found an old 4GB stick and reformatted it to FAT32 and put the 2.5.2 file onto it and the CS3 recognized it on restart and I was able to successfully update to the beta version.

I really appreciate the help on this one as its been driving me nuts for a few weeks not being able to run via PC control. Now the feedbacks are working again.



Where can I find v2.5.2?


this version is currently Beta and not for public distribution. However Märklin promised a delivery by the end of the month.

kind regards
Jörg

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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#117 Posted : 29 February 2024 08:41:19(UTC)
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hope they manage to keep what they promise, it's the final day Cool
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Offline pa-pauls  
#118 Posted : 29 February 2024 10:43:28(UTC)
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Yes, late february they said, it will be fun they said Blushing
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Offline mbarreto  
#119 Posted : 29 February 2024 10:44:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Go to Quoted Post
hope they manage to keep what they promise, it's the final day Cool



Did they mentioned what month they were talking about? :-)))

MC


Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline pa-pauls  
#120 Posted : 29 February 2024 11:59:14(UTC)
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2.5.2 is online BigGrin
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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#121 Posted : 29 February 2024 13:14:23(UTC)
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yes, total confusion Confused

still the same file name like the "beta" and PDF documentation is still showing 2.5.1 files
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Offline mbarreto  
#122 Posted : 29 February 2024 13:44:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Go to Quoted Post
hope they manage to keep what they promise, it's the final day Cool



Did they mentioned what month they were talking about? :-)))

MC




Now it is clear they were referring to February 2024. I should have believed! :-)

MC


Best regards,
Miguel
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Offline pa-pauls  
#123 Posted : 29 February 2024 13:55:16(UTC)
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The new 2,5,2 (6) file is faulty Blushing

I have tried to download it 2 times, used 2 different USB sticks and get the same error message :

""Warning
The update image on the USB stick is faulty.
Please reload the update image or use a different USB stick.

This message comes up until the next restart of the CS3""

Someone else get this error message Confused
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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#124 Posted : 29 February 2024 14:05:00(UTC)
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same here Cursing but it works with network connection

i sent them a print screen....
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Online Copenhagen  
#125 Posted : 29 February 2024 14:21:15(UTC)
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The Maerklin guy in my local, Danish, forum says that the update will be rolled out for all CS3s over the coming days.
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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#126 Posted : 29 February 2024 14:40:32(UTC)
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Offline bph  
#127 Posted : 29 February 2024 15:11:03(UTC)
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A online update to 2.5.2 worked fine
2.5.2_update1.jpg

and a update for the MS2 was also included, new version 4.13
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Offline garben  
#128 Posted : 26 March 2024 15:35:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Go to Quoted Post
Not funny with ESU 5 decoders Angry

Did they not try reading out CV with other producers decoder...

UserPostedImage

http://www.modelltag.se/...users/20231201200629.mp4

it re-registers the locomotive and puts the CS3 in stop mode.



I received the same message regarding the re-registering of the decoded for security reasons, and it keeps trying to update the decoder and seems to result in an endless loop of attempts. I only have Marklin MFX locomotives and they range in age from 4-7 years. I'm assuming they have Marklin decoders.

Anyway, I rolled back to the 2.4 version after I pulled out most of my hair.

Does Marklin monitor this forum, or would anyone know the best way to report this to Marklin?

Thanks!
Norbert
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Offline marklinist5999  
#129 Posted : 26 March 2024 16:25:01(UTC)
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Norbert, I get that message, but only when I am in edit mode. I haven't tried to edit a loco twice.
Offline garben  
#130 Posted : 26 March 2024 17:50:18(UTC)
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Yea, it was really making me nuts so I rolled back the update. I was wondering if there is a formal way to let Marklin know, although I would image they know already. Good luck!
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Offline QQQ1970  
#131 Posted : 26 March 2024 22:13:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: garben Go to Quoted Post
Yea, it was really making me nuts so I rolled back the update. I was wondering if there is a formal way to let Marklin know, although I would image they know already. Good luck!


I updated to v2.5.2 and the Loksound 5 issue is resolved. You need to delete the lok from CS3 and re-register. After that, everything is fine and you can edit the Loksound 5 decoders on CS3.
Offline garben  
#132 Posted : 26 March 2024 22:20:54(UTC)
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Thanks Q.

Believe me, I tried this multiple times and ended up with the same result. I'm going to wait a bit for the next release.
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Offline JohnjeanB  
#133 Posted : 26 March 2024 23:48:53(UTC)
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Hi
I am a bit off topic, sorry. I loaded the last CS3 version v 2.5.2(6) and it went well for my Märklin MFX locos but not so well for a Märklin loco fitted with the LokSound 5 micro decoder.

What happened:
- the firmware into the ESU decoder was modified by Märklin CS3 in a way that no physical fonction I use is operational anymore.
- the rest is working fine: Motor, sound etc.

What I tried
- at first I thought that NO Märklin wouldn't be stupid enough to modify the firmware of someone else's decoder (That they know poorly) so I tested the loco in analogue: I have sound but no lights so Märklin did modify without my consent my property and damaged it. I am outraged- of course I did many reset of the decoder using MFX and also DCC. In MFX, the loco was removed from the list and re-appeared as all MFX locos do. But no cure to my problem
- next, being a tenacious and a nasty person, also Engineer in electronics I immersed myself into the delicacies of CVs in ESU decoders (I have no ESU Lokprogrammer) and, gosh, it is a real gas factory (that's what we say in France when a product is overly complicated (warning, understatement here).
- I read the CVs in the decoder (using the CS3 in DCC mode), I red the CVs in the initial ESU project (thanks to the ESU LokProgrammer s/w) and the physical fonctions and I cannot locate where Märklin did some changes
- so it is still a work in progress (17 CVs per line for each fonction-key/ sound-logical-random fonctions among 72 lines or so and this is only a small part of the CV salad.

I must say Thanks Märklin for being so inconsiderate to your customers (by destroying their own property) and thanks to ESU to create such "gas factory" and totally user UNfriendly systems.
Cheers
Jean
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Offline Goofy  
#134 Posted : 27 March 2024 06:30:04(UTC)
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Why don’t you try use patch cable connect direct to the wifi router and the CS3? Works everytime by upgrade.
H0
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