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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek  Further to posts #262 - 266 regarding a turnout on a bridge: Kräwinklerbrücke, Remscheid, Germany  It seems to me as if the first turnout is placed on the bridge. oh, I nearly missed that, yes the one to the left definitely seems to be on the bridge. The bridge must be quite wide at that point (no pun intended  ).
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Hi AK,
Regarding the Kräwinklerbrücke, I am intrigued by the seemingly compact layout of the station and the adjacent industry.
I thought that might be a sawmill, glass-making or a brickworks.
It would make a basis for a compact model layout.
Unfortunately, I think my days of building are over, but maybe a small one .....
So researching that further I can find no other information pertaining to that photo.
The town of Remscheid near Wuppertal has no geographical siimilarities (from maps, other photos) to the photo you showed.
Do you have a source for that photo please?
Regards
Kimball
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Further fun facts about Kräwinkel: The Wuppertalbahn train meet stations had only entrance signals, but no exit signals (as can be seen on the track plan in post no. 705). By default, trains entering a station had to come to full stop unless waived through by the local station master (dispatcher) on the platform. All stations along the route had a similar trackplan as Kräwinkel, and all were curved. Edited by user 29 April 2020 12:46:29(UTC)
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Thank you AK for following up on my query. I checked through the links, there are copious references and photos. A beautiful plan too. But I am somewhat relieved that a layout has already been built. That takes the pressure off.  regards Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek From the 1959 time table book... The sharpest curve in Australia and in NSW is still the 6 chain curve at the end of the Rat Hole Tunnels at Lithgow just before you pass the Lithgow Zig Zag and the NSW governments have refused to have it removed
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Originally Posted by: Bones Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek From the 1959 time table book... The sharpest curve in Australia and in NSW is still the 6 chain curve at the end of the Rat Hole Tunnels at Lithgow just before you pass the Lithgow Zig Zag and the NSW governments have refused to have it removed Locally known as Cape Horn . Many a freight train has come to grief on this corner when travelling towards Sydney as not only is it a tight corner it is also on a 1 in 33 grade .
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Originally Posted by: Bones Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek From the 1959 time table book... The sharpest curve in Australia and in NSW is still the 6 chain curve at the end of the Rat Hole Tunnels at Lithgow just before you pass the Lithgow Zig Zag and the NSW governments have refused to have it removed Hi Evan, Thanks for that information. That means the curve has a radius of 120 metres, which equals 1 metre and 38 cms (1.38m) in HO scale. Our HO scale trains have no trouble with that sort of curve...... Kimball |
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge. |
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Loulé in Portugal - a contemporary single track main line station for passengers and goods one could actually model. All passenger trains are stopping there: Pendolino high-speed tilting trains, electric-hauled IC trains and commuter service diesel DMUs. Then, there is a compact TOFC terminal (scroll left). The freight loco is parked on the stub track in front of the old goods shed. Nearby Faro (Algarve) international airport jet fuel is delivered by train via Loulé. Somehow the Google Maps link does not work flawlessly. Thus, better copy and paste below full string: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Loule/@37.104553,-8.058616,3045m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x222430b1fb6e7c7c!8m2!3d37.104553!4d-8.058616 A photo of tank containers destined for the airport. http://portugalferroviar...02/Loule-25022016-01.jpgYoutube video: |
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Portugal: The grade level crossing east of the Estômbar-Lagoa station will fall victim to this year’s upgrade of the western leg of the Algarve railway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linha_do_Algarve).  Therefore, I recorded the bucolic setting before it is too late. This is a two-track passing station on the single track line. Looking west from the gated grade level crossing.  To the left...  ..one can catch sight of the two station tracks.  |
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Approaching the station on the left (south) side of the embankment leads us to a small road underpass.  Looking back to the east towards the grade level crossing ...  ...with the road underpass in-between.  The station area.  Old goods shed.  |
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Estômbar, the town served by the station.  In front of the depot: Giving the term “guard rails” a new meaning.  |
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For those simply too lazy to do mountains! But you do need a little bit of space for 9 train sets at 240 iron ore cars per set running continuously and a "few" extras in maintenance. Dampier Western Australia 127 million tonnes per year to be expanded to 145 million tonnes, and Port Hedland 516 million tonnes per year.   
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Hello! For those that like cars transportation, here is a good example in Munich area: 
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Another shot... but, this is for real, or is just a model in the table? 
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New BMW 5ers, etc. From Dingolfing.
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Originally Posted by: 1borna Hi Borna, That is a very photogenic location and certainly a nice example setting for a model train layout. Thanks for sharing. The monastry/church platform seems to be cantilvered - either by design or by landslip from beneath over the last 11 centuries. The Wikipedia article you quoted does not mention that rather unusual fact. And omits any reference to being supported. I wonder how long it is going to stay standing? Kimball |
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge. |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Another loop in flat northern Germany: In Flensburg the main line from Hamburg in Germany to Fredericia in Denmark runs in a big loop around the southern outskirts of the town. At Flensburg main station another line to Kiel branches off. For further illustration: http://www.klauserbeck.d...FlensburgFriedensweg.htm |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Autobahn + Eisenbahn = Autoeisenbahn (or Eisenautobahn)? Experimental E- Highway on Autobahn A1 south of Lübeck: WOW! AK, Thanks for posting. This is amazing! Is this going to be for trucks and buses only right now? Peter 
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Yes, hybrid trucks.  Source: Siemens |
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Incredible - 1921-built class 58 steam loco in “regular” track maintenance service on a Deutsche Bahn main line in 2022 ! Obviously the usual diesel loco was not available, leading to the decision to re-activate this steamer (owned by the Ulm rail association) running MoW trains near Neustadt/Weinstraße. The local depot still has steam refuelling facility for serving a museum railroad (called cuckoo’s branch line). Note the MRR-like hilly landscape, complete with bridges and grade crossings: English subtitles can be activated (delivering sometimes funny results): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Incredible - 1921-built class 58 steam loco in “regular” track maintenance service on a Deutsche Bahn main line in 2022 !
Obviously the usual diesel loco was not available, leading to the decision to re-activate this steamer (owned by the Ulm rail association) running MoW trains near Neustadt/Weinstraße. The local depot still has steam refuelling facility for serving a museum railroad (called cuckoo’s branch line). Note the MRR-like hilly landscape, complete with bridges and grade crossings:
English subtitles can be activated (delivering sometimes funny results): That is quite some load the old girl is hauling/pushing. Congrats to the museum keep her in such good nick. The sound of the loco is [music] to my ears |
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'I find your lack of faith (in Märklin) disturbing' |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek We don't want weird turnout arrangments, S-curves or parallel tracks that aren't aligned properly.  Some of that is peculiar perspective due to the long telephoto shot. The single slip looks like a real pain to negotiate, and I wouldn't want to travel on the bit between the single slip and the point off the bottom of the picture, but I'm sure they are not as bad as the telephoto shot makes out.
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Bremerhaven wye  Attribution: Stadt Bremerhaven, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons Section of the official Bremerhaven city map 1967 with the fish shipping freight station, northern Wulsdorf and Geestemünde-South. |
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Hello AK. Hope you and yours are well. I always loved how northern DE cities used the DB and ships together at a harbor. Especially with the cranes trucks and shunter loks. Such excitement, no? I once considered making one of my favorite layouts from the old 60s track plan book. Cheers, Peter. 
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Who says there cannot be a busy mainline four track railway tunnel in a lowland tunnel in a European capital city with a port at sea level? It has been done in Denmark.  Credits: https://commons.wikimedi...l_til_Boulevardbanen.jpgLeif Jørgensen, CC BY-SA 4.0 <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0>, via Wikimedia Commons "Portal of the tunnel part of Boulevardbanen south of Østerport Station in Copenhagen. The two tracks at the left are used by regional and long distance trains while the two at the right are for the S-trains. The building above is Statens Museum for Kunst (the National Museum of Art)." Edited by user 26 July 2023 20:10:29(UTC)
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Who says one cannot mix a red 1/100, a white 1/87 and a brown 1/76 scale building on a layout? It has been done in Denmark.  Store Kongensgade 65/67/69, Copenhagen, Denmark |
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Same country where something was once rotten? Joking! I love Emmentahl cheese, and Havarti!
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"Zinkpest" prototype gondola?  |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek "Zinkpest" prototype gondola?
Does look a bit sad. The grey one two up from it doesn't look much better. I'm guessing, from the way the sides of both wagons are bulging, they have been overloaded in some way, possibly from aggregate being poured in off a loader conveyor belt, that was dropping the load from a significant height.
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I went past my local train station the other day and saw this consist parked in a parallel track to the platform. BTW there is only one station and only one platform in my city (the capital of the country). The regular train from Sydney was due.  The lead engine GM10 was built in 1952 and produces 1,200KW The second engine GM 27 was built 1962/63 and produces 1,450KW  That's a fair whack of horsepower to pull three carriages although I'm sure we've all done that on our layouts. I didn't have time to find out why it was there but I'm guessing some kind of excursion train. It certainly wouldn't look out of place in the wild west.
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Originally Posted by: sidblack
The lead engine GM10 was built in 1952 and produces 1,200KW
The second engine GM 27 was built 1962/63 and produces 1,450KW
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That's a fair whack of horsepower to pull three carriages although I'm sure we've all done that on our layouts.
I didn't have time to find out why it was there but I'm guessing some kind of excursion train. It certainly wouldn't look out of place in the wild west.
It may be that they have used two locos on a short train to provide fail safe redundancy. Considering the age of the locos (without knowing their service/refurbishment record) this could well be wise.
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Yes I imagine that's the reason. Also seeing that the carriages were pretty grubby whether it was a train taking crew somewhere rather than an excursion train.
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Same country where something was once rotten? Joking! I love Emmentahl cheese, and Havarti! Havarti yes!! And Denmark does have its share of odd sizes in everything. Kimball |
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge. |
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I am not sure if this is a repeat of the "Turnouts on Bridges" bit, however, here it is again: Stuttgart-Rosensteinbrücke with turnouts on both ends of the bridge  Google Maps still shows all of the turnouts still present.  (although "Stuttgart 21" may have made this set of lines redundant...) And the one shown here is very close to the entrance/exit of the 4-track Rosenstein tunnel to/from Stuttgart Hbf and Stuttgart-Cannstatt |
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The Marseille–Ventimiglia railway is a French-Monégasque-Italian 259-kilometre-long (161 mi) railway line, an important transport corridor, connecting the French and Italian Rivieras with this impressive and improbable bridge in the French town Théoule-sur-Mer near Cannes: A double track RR bridge spanning a toy-like bay of sea ? Had somebody replicated this scene on a MRR layout, I would have deemed it unrealistic…  https://fr.wikipedia.org...r:Viaduc_de_la_Rague.JPG |
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