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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek  Recently in Lisbon, Portugal:  Intermodal train coming from Alcântara container terminal... Not my best shot ever, but it had to be quick: A train hauled by an electric loco crossing the tall Tagus river bridge via tracks "suspended" below the road.  |
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That is a great picture👍😊. I'm quite amazed of all the pictures you seem to find for almost anything modeltrain related. I'm very thankful for that you are a member of this forum.
Happy Model Railroading
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek I guess that is to power the steam heating plant ...  But it is a bit of an odd picture. If you look carefully enough you can see the overhead wire going through the coaling plant, and the loco has the far pantograph up. So the track is obviously being used by electric locos, presumably to access maintenance facilities. I presume by this stage that steam locos were long gone, and that it was only a matter of time before the coaling tower would be demolished.
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Or could it be in the transition period - so we have steam (and coal) on the right and electric on the left. Didn't want to knock the thing down quite yet.
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek I guess that is to power the steam heating plant ... But it is a bit of an odd picture. If you look carefully enough you can see the overhead wire going through the coaling plant, and the loco has the far pantograph up. So the track is obviously being used by electric locos, presumably to access maintenance facilities. I presume by this stage that steam locos were long gone, and that it was only a matter of time before the coaling tower would be demolished. See those long pipes going down from the hopper and the fact that the hopper has a cover? All that is for sand, and electrics need that as much as steam locos. |
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Originally Posted by: Robert Davies
See those long pipes going down from the hopper and the fact that the hopper has a cover? All that is for sand, and electrics need that as much as steam locos.
Ah, of course, that is a sensible explanation. Now why didn't I think of that ...  Thanks Robert.
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Modelers delight: The Murg Valley Railway (German: Murgtalbahn) is a 58 kilometre long single-track railway line in the Northern Black Forest in Germany with numerous tunnels and bridges. The section between the stations of Baiersbronn and Freudenstadt Stadt is a steep ramp which even today can only be worked by vehicles that have the required approval. Consequently, trains were rather short.  www.wikipedia.de  The first steam locomotives were of Baden class V c and V b, which were replaced by class VI b and VI c, which were replaced class T18 for passenger and class 50 locomotives (mainly) for freight service.  Class 50 hauled silberling coaches at Freudenstadt, 1974. www.panoramio.comLateron class 82 steam locomotives were used. Because of limited towing capacity on the steep sections, many trains needed an additional helper engine pushing the train at the rear. The diesel era started with the delivery of four railbuses of class VT 98.9 followed by class V100, replacing both steam locomotives and railbuses. Still, services continuing from Baiersbronn needed two or three locomotives until the advent of class 218 locomotives adapted for steep hauls (see here for exceptions: https://www.marklin-user...Arragements#post548304). In the 1980s class 628/928 diesel multiple units were used on the lower section as far as Baiersbronn. Since these were not allowed on the steep section, passenger had to change at Baiersbronn to board class 627.0 diesel multiple units for the remainder of the trip up to Freudenstadt.  www.wikipedia.deAll following photos: www.eisenbahnfotograf.de     This ICE came only once for a publicity stunt after the electrification.  www.harrynet.deAfter the occasional long-distance passenger services had been withdrawn, the Murg Valley Railway was integrated into the network of the Karlsruhe Stadtbahn at the beginning of the second millennium. |
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Murgtalbahn cont´d: Murgtalbahn maximum gradient is a whooping 5% (in the Black Forest, only the Höllentalbahn is - with 1:18 or 5.5% - steeper). Freudenstadt has two railroad stations. The incline is necessary to get to the Freudenstadt "Stadt" station. The inner city of Freudenstadt with the largest market square in Germany is situated on a mountain ridge between the Murg valley in the west and the Glatt river system in the southeast. Freudenstadt's main railway station ("Hauptbahnhof" or "Hbf") is located south-east of the city center in the Glatt suburb. And the station Baiersbronn is located in the Murg valley to the north-west of Freudenstadt, on a much lower elevation than the city center of Freudenstadt. With a short tunnel between the main station of Freudenstadt and the Murgtal one could have done away with the sloped stretch. But then the inner city of Freudenstadt would have lost its railway connection ("Stadt" station). Freudenstadt - translated: city of joy(s) - is nicely embedded in the Black Forest railroad network, both single and double track, with and without catenary.  Trackplans of Freudenstadt and surrounding towns.   www.wikipedia.comSnapshots of the incline looking northwards, i.e. downhill.    http://schwarzwaldnatur....der-murgtalbahn-bei.html |
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Vassijaure, a place that gives you many excuses: Station between tunnels: OK. Crappy tunnel portals: OK.   Giant station building but only few other houses: OK.   Can't afford any Preisers? OK. The trains stop here. It is a real station. But nobody went on or off when I was there.  Inconsistent mix of eras: OK. 
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Originally Posted by: perz Vassijaure, a place that gives you many excuses: Station between tunnels: OK. Crappy tunnel portals: OK. Giant station building but only few other houses: OK. Can't afford any Preisers? OK. The trains stop here. It is a real station. But nobody went on or off when I was there. Inconsistent mix of eras: OK. Nice little station! I guess the tunnels are "snow" tunnels? The station looks like being transformed from something else,perhaps a grainshed or something? The train stopping without people getting in or out reminds me of: |
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Nice little station! I guess the tunnels are "snow" tunnels? The station looks like being transformed from something else,perhaps a grainshed or something? The train stopping without people getting in or out reminds me of: The tunnels portals are snow protections in front of real tunnels. The station was a station from the beginning. It needed to be big to contain electrical installations for the railway. The railway was electrified already in 1915. The electrical equipment was bulky at that time.
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Northern Maine Junction at Hermon near Bangor, Maine.  A maze of crossing lines, return loops, junctions, wyes, over- and underpasses, stubs and sidings plus a roundhouse.  And all on a rectangular surface. |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Northern Maine Junction at Hermon near Bangor, Maine.
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A maze of crossing lines, return loops, junctions, wyes, over- and underpasses, stubs and sidings plus a roundhouse.
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And all on a rectangular surface. That just looks like someone has taken several marklin start sets and used all the available track to make some loops ... 
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Hi friends. With the many youtube videos I watch daily I thought that this would be a great double set for Maerklin to make? Peter. 
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The 1978 Miami Amtrak station in Florida: A design for the flattop modeler of Amtrak trains.  (www.trainweb.org) A loop track runs around the station to turn trains around for their return trips.  (Google Maps) |
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Close as I'd try to get to the proto-type, it's doubtful I'd ever come up with an E40 heading Umbauwagen instead of the Class 50 or the 216 Diesel. It looks like they've traded trains. Originally Posted by: BrandonVA |
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Burning H0 scale turnout solenoids ? No, it's so cold that Chicago's Metra Rail is lighting its tracks on fire. |
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H0 scale layout too close to broken water pipe ?  Wave crashing on train at Dawlish in the UK. |
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Are these diesel electrics or hydraulics? I can't imagine that sea water is beneficial to electric traction motors. |
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Originally Posted by: rbw993 Are these diesel electrics or hydraulics? I can't imagine that sea water is beneficial to electric traction motors. The wikipedia page lists them as Diesel Electric. The section of track in the photo is the piece that got washed away about two years ago. [edit] Whoops, how time gets around, it was earlier than that ... [/edit] Chris Tarrant has done an interesting program on the history of the Intercity 125 and the APT tilting train that was being developed at the same time. It provides some interesting insights in the hows and whys of why the HST-125 looks the way it does today.
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek RR bridge above RR bridge in the Northern Lowland. Hi Ak, How about a waterway over a waterway ! (canal du midi) :  Regards, PJ
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Originally Posted by: scraigen My guess is that this TT needed a little less space maybe.
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Train tail chasing in Savannah, Georgia, USA.  |
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For the (overhead) wireless double track modeler: Class 221 diesel with freight train 64935 towards Nußbach on the Schwarzwaldbahn, 1972.  For the (overhead) wireless quadruple track modeler: Class 01 pulling F 56 "Blauer Enzian" near Elm on the old north-south trunk line, 1954.  eisenbahnstiftung.de |
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Ah So.... It's Viaduct Time. I found one with a road built into it. I believe Its on the SNCF. Mikey  |
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Realistic US style end of track.  |
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Unrealistic vertical and bare cliffs, funny triple tunnel portals, strictly diesel?  Yes, near Wuppertal. |
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Photo recently taken by my son near Naruto, Tokushima. Talk about short sidings  Jeroen |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Gamburg station, Baden-Württemberg: Turnout in tunnel? Why not?  ... Hello Ak, Thanks for your reassuring post, I had previously had some concerns these two turnouts on my layout were too close to the tunnel ! Regards, PJ  
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek ...Footage of train traffic coming from the Tagus bridge...
I unearthed a short railfanning video by somebody actually inside a train crossing the Lisbon suspension bridge - click on link for viewing: https://vimeo.com/33154433 |
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But what is under the bridge? DB mainline? |
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Originally Posted by: rbw993 But what is under the bridge? DB mainline? Unfortunately, the “source website” doesn’t give any clue about the location (which would have allowed for further research). It looks to me like somewhere in the Ruhr area. |
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This gem is a by-catch of my search:  Bramdelle near Wuppertal, 1976. I reckon that it is a museum train. The scenery looks like a Woodland Scenics ad. |
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Nice thing about solid rock is the angle of repose is about 90 degrees. Very convenient for model railways with close clearances. |
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Translation of the German caption on the Konstanz station throat: "Noteworthy on the adjacent picture is the track layout of the left tracks: if you were to lay your tracks in a model environment like this, you would certainly be subject to criticism."  www.stayathome.ch |
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One does not need to go to the Alps for tunnels and bridges. Take the single-track not electrified Hönne Valley Railway in North Rhine-Westphalia.  Binolen Tunnel  Uhu Rock www.wolfgang-kissmer.de/...u-menden/die-hönne/Bonus: There is a castle - Burg Klusenstein - above the valley.  |
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