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Offline Alsterstreek  
#701 Posted : 05 March 2020 14:27:15(UTC)
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Two more examples of a turnout on a bridge.

Ohlshausenstraße, Kiel, Germany
http://157949.homepagemo...-wirkende-Kraefte-1.html

Hamburg-Lokstedt, Germany
http://www.gleismann.de/...ub/3.lokstedt-fotos.html
(scroll down to third photo)
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Online 1borna  
#702 Posted : 22 April 2020 21:27:20(UTC)
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Some more nice pictures of Zidani Most station
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#703 Posted : 23 April 2020 04:43:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Further to posts #262 - 266 regarding a turnout on a bridge: Kräwinklerbrücke, Remscheid, Germany
bgv0238_orig.jpg
It seems to me as if the first turnout is placed on the bridge.




oh, I nearly missed that, yes the one to the left definitely seems to be on the bridge. The bridge must be quite wide at that point (no pun intended Blushing ).
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#704 Posted : 24 April 2020 02:34:46(UTC)
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Hi AK,

Regarding the Kräwinklerbrücke, I am intrigued by the seemingly compact layout of the station and the adjacent industry.
I thought that might be a sawmill, glass-making or a brickworks.
It would make a basis for a compact model layout.
Unfortunately, I think my days of building are over, but maybe a small one .....

So researching that further I can find no other information pertaining to that photo.
The town of Remscheid near Wuppertal has no geographical siimilarities (from maps, other photos) to the photo you showed.
Do you have a source for that photo please?

Regards
Kimball
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#705 Posted : 24 April 2020 09:32:20(UTC)
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Hi Kimball,

The Kräwinklerbrücke once spanned the Wupper river, but you cannot detect it anymore on modern maps and pictures since the area was permanently flooded in the 1980s upon the construction of the Wupper dam, which changed the landscape dramatically.

The historic photo of the Kräwinklerbrücke station you are referring to is the courtesy of the "Bergischer Geschichtsverein Abteilung Hückeswagen e.V.". Inter alia, it can be viewed here (scroll down to the very last photo): https://hueckstory.weebl.../kraewinklerbruecke.html

1973 track plan:
krwinklerbrcke1973c6c6t.jpg

More detail photos of the station area:
http://forst-grunewald.de/?p=11924
http://www.bahnen-wupper...f-1966-CB-HB-800-519.jpg
http://www.bahnen-wupper...n-oben-CB-HB-800-518.jpg

One of the former industries ...:
http://www.bahnen-wupper...rk-Urbach-WS-800-517.jpg
... is available as scale model:
https://www.modellbahnsh...04/de/modell_281766.html

And here a historic photo gallery of the entire Wuppertalbahn:
http://www.bahnen-wupper...beyenburger-strecke.html

Edited by user 24 April 2020 18:24:03(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#706 Posted : 25 April 2020 00:15:32(UTC)
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Kräwinklerbrücke 1960s footage (If the link does not work, enter „Kräwinklerbrücke“ in search cell):

https://digit.wdr.de/ent...UifQ%3D%3D&qt=search

Aerial view of the steel plant: http://www.wupperindustrie.de/kraewibilder10.html
HO scale Kräwinklerbrücke station building kit: https://lasercut-shop.de...ops/22270/Products/19012
Kräwinklerbrücke station building photos: http://tom.kraewinklerbr...tos/galerie_11/index.htm
Another 1970s photo gallery of the Wuppertalbahn: http://tom.kraewinklerbr...otos/galerie_2/index.htm

Video of Kräwinklerbrücke layout in H0 - the actual Kräwinklerbrücke is the second bridge appearing around 1:50, thus not the fish belly, but the steel girder bridge:
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#707 Posted : 25 April 2020 01:17:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Kräwinklerbrücke 1960s footage (If the link does not work, enter „Kräwinklerbrücke“ in search cell):
...
Kräwinklerbrücke station building photos: http://tom.kraewinklerbr...tos/galerie_11/index.htm
...


Well, from that gallery here is your point on the bridge ...
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#708 Posted : 27 April 2020 13:15:33(UTC)
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Further fun facts about Kräwinkel:

The Wuppertalbahn train meet stations had only entrance signals, but no exit signals (as can be seen on the track plan in post no. 705). By default, trains entering a station had to come to full stop unless waived through by the local station master (dispatcher) on the platform. All stations along the route had a similar trackplan as Kräwinkel, and all were curved.

Edited by user 29 April 2020 12:46:29(UTC)  | Reason: typo

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Offline kimballthurlow  
#709 Posted : 28 April 2020 01:20:29(UTC)
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Thank you AK for following up on my query.
I checked through the links, there are copious references and photos.
A beautiful plan too.

But I am somewhat relieved that a layout has already been built.
That takes the pressure off. Cool

regards
Kimball
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Online 1borna  
#710 Posted : 10 June 2020 21:34:19(UTC)
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Some more nice pictures of Zidani Most station 2
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Offline Bones  
#711 Posted : 16 June 2020 15:18:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
From the 1959 time table book...


The sharpest curve in Australia and in NSW is still the 6 chain curve at the end of the Rat Hole Tunnels at Lithgow just before you pass the Lithgow Zig Zag and the NSW governments
have refused to have it removed


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Offline Tom Jessop  
#712 Posted : 17 June 2020 00:42:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bones Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
From the 1959 time table book...


The sharpest curve in Australia and in NSW is still the 6 chain curve at the end of the Rat Hole Tunnels at Lithgow just before you pass the Lithgow Zig Zag and the NSW governments
have refused to have it removed


Locally known as Cape Horn . Many a freight train has come to grief on this corner when travelling towards Sydney as not only is it a tight corner it is also on a 1 in 33 grade .


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Offline kimballthurlow  
#713 Posted : 17 June 2020 04:49:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bones Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
From the 1959 time table book...


The sharpest curve in Australia and in NSW is still the 6 chain curve at the end of the Rat Hole Tunnels at Lithgow just before you pass the Lithgow Zig Zag and the NSW governments
have refused to have it removed




Hi Evan,
Thanks for that information.
That means the curve has a radius of 120 metres, which equals 1 metre and 38 cms (1.38m) in HO scale.
Our HO scale trains have no trouble with that sort of curve...... Cool

Kimball
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#714 Posted : 27 July 2020 20:30:26(UTC)
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Loulé in Portugal - a contemporary single track main line station for passengers and goods one could actually model.

All passenger trains are stopping there: Pendolino high-speed tilting trains, electric-hauled IC trains and commuter service diesel DMUs.

Then, there is a compact TOFC terminal (scroll left). The freight loco is parked on the stub track in front of the old goods shed. Nearby Faro (Algarve) international airport jet fuel is delivered by train via Loulé.

Somehow the Google Maps link does not work flawlessly. Thus, better copy and paste below full string:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Loule/@37.104553,-8.058616,3045m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x222430b1fb6e7c7c!8m2!3d37.104553!4d-8.058616

A photo of tank containers destined for the airport.
http://portugalferroviar...02/Loule-25022016-01.jpg

Youtube video:
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#715 Posted : 28 July 2020 10:41:43(UTC)
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Here are Google Maps screenshots for illustration.
Loule1CP2020.pngLoule2CP2020.pngLoule3CP2020.png
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