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Found the review of Trix 25441 but in German. See smoke in action at 3.55 |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain  Found the review of Trix 25441 but in German.
See smoke in action at 3.55
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Very beautiful locomotive and really interesting sound profile. I do however have questions about the "smoke" which is supposed to be diesel exhaust; it seems to be just as much as you see on an active steam locomotive. I wonder if there might be a way of making the smoke stream more subtle, as in a smaller bit of exhaust. |
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Originally Posted by: ktsolias Hi
The TRIX models 25440 and 25441 are delivered.
I put a hand on those.
From any point of view are excellent!!!!
Metal construction, dynamic smoke, excellent sounds. Marvelous.
The price is correct for these beautiful locos.
I am waiting for the Märklin version to get mine.
May be is a good start for collection.
Already Kansas announced. Is very nice, I had see a preproduction model is Toy fair in Nurnberg in January.
Is very nice model too
Regards
Costas Those locomotives are a bit tempting, but I'm still on the fence about it. Perhaps if it gets good reviews and i can find some at a good discount :) I did have a look at the Marklin exploded drawings and compared them to the exploded drawing from Broadway Limited Imports, and there are some similarities but also some differences. Eg. Marklin has one cube speaker inside the locomotive and Broadway Limited has two round speakers at the bottom. And Marklin has 4 powered axels and Broadway Limited has 6 powered axels, but looking at the drawing I can't see any traction tires on the drawing from Broadway Limited Import
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek I believe the Marklin ones are out as well. Marklin had a pair running on their long term test track pulling a veeeery long rake of the hopper wagons.
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Originally Posted by: Mark5 Originally Posted by: steventrain Found the review of Trix 25441 but in German.
See smoke in action at 3.55
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Very beautiful locomotive and really interesting sound profile. I do however have questions about the "smoke" which is supposed to be diesel exhaust; it seems to be just as much as you see on an active steam locomotive. I wonder if there might be a way of making the smoke stream more subtle, as in a smaller bit of exhaust. the decoder project does indeed seem to be quite good, and listening to the decoder project(Trix 25440) on pc with mdecodertool it seems like Marklin has included some deeper tones, compared to what they have done previously on other recent projects. So that's welcome. As for the smoke, I don't think is possible to reduce the amount of smoke, so perhaps turn it off while running...? or simply take it as a prototypical simulation of bad injectors or something like that....  e.g. like in this video:(not the prototype but just an example) The prototype has a very powerful sound, e.g. like this ES44AC, from Canadian Pacific:
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We get CP locos like this running only a couple of klicks from our house and we hear some of these sounds when sitting on our upper balcony at night. My wife looks over at me and smiles because she knows I love it. And "Whoa" with the smoke! I have never seen that much smoke from such a unit. Triple header looks very impressive. As for the model, I may go to the Big E show in Springfield Mass this year, so I will be looking out for any large diesel-electrics with "major smoke" and see what they do with it. Curious if there will be continued improvements on smoke realism in general so my wife can stop laughing at me when I run our steamloks with the tiny puffs.  I do find that models with smoke from the pistons can look quite nice. As for me, I have mostly only continental European epIII stuff. Originally Posted by: bph ....As for the smoke, I don't think is possible to reduce the amount of smoke, so perhaps turn it off while running...? or simply take it as a prototypical simulation of bad injectors or something like that.... e.g. like in this video:(not the prototype but just an example) ......... The prototype has a very powerful sound, e.g. like this ES44AC, from Canadian Pacific: |
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In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou That was indeed a pleasant surprise, I did not expect that since Roco has made several versions of it. It is a bit expensive, but I do see that modellbahn-kramm has a 92,51 € preorder discount on it.......
Posterprospekt_38201_DE-EN_online.pdf
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Lovely loco, but too pricey for me!
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Ray
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I am surprised to see Märklin surprise model and that is really dumb new.
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I really like the model and the changes that are made from 39027. The price is very high though and I have slot of other models that are higher up on my list.
I'll pass but only because of the price point. The price increase from 39027 is 1/3. |
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Several new items from every maker are very expesnive.
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister I really like the model and the changes that are made from 39027. The price is very high though and I have slot of other models that are higher up on my list.
I'll pass but only because of the price point. The price increase from 39027 is 1/3. Hi Please note that the 38201 and 39027 are quite different, eg they don't even share the same traction tire part number. the 38201 prototype is a rebuilt 61 002 with some parts from the H45 024. And the 39027 prototype is a rebuilt Baden Iv h/br 18 314. But they were both rebuilt by VES-M Halle........ The models seem to reflect the difference in the prototypes: (note the picture of the 38201 is probably a pre production model)  Matched the track sleepers in the pictures above, so the scale should not be too far off.
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Originally Posted by: bph Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister I really like the model and the changes that are made from 39027. The price is very high though and I have slot of other models that are higher up on my list.
I'll pass but only because of the price point. The price increase from 39027 is 1/3. Hi Please note that the 38201 and 39027 are quite different, eg they don't even share the same traction tire part number. the 38201 prototype is a rebuilt 61 002 with some parts from the H45 024. And the 39027 prototype is a rebuilt Baden Iv h/br 18 314. But they were both rebuilt by VES-M Halle........ The models seem to reflect the difference in the prototypes: (note the picture of the 38201 is probably a pre production model) Matched the track sleepers in the pictures above, so the scale should not be too far off. Thanks for sharing. Great picture to see the difference between almost the same locs. Yes, 18201 is longer than 18314 up to 2m. How did you know 18201 is a preproduction model?
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Has anyone in North America received the Marklin 38440 Union Pacific Type GE ES44AC Diesel Locomotive from a Marklin dealer yet. It is supposed to be released/delivered in October 2023. Thanks so much.
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Originally Posted by: shannon
Thanks for sharing. Great picture to see the difference between almost
the same locs.
Yes, 18201 is longer than 18314 up to 2m.
How did you know 18201 is a preproduction model?
I don't know for sure but Marklin sometimes uses preproduction models in the first pictures and when I zoomed in on the locomotive some details looked a bit coarse.
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Originally Posted by: shannon
How did you know 18201 is a preproduction model?
IIRC it is stated on the Marklin video issued for its release - see further up for a link. speaking of which - what are all these adverts appearing in the Marklin videos? 
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Hi I'm using "Adblocker Ultimate" plugin (free) in Firefox and it kills a lot of adverts including on YouTube. and it's easy to turn off on sites that require that. The The Ublock plugin also works quite well. Another alternative is to use the Brave browser. or somthing similar
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Originally Posted by: Bill L Has anyone in North America received the Marklin 38440 Union Pacific Type GE ES44AC Diesel Locomotive from a Marklin dealer yet. It is supposed to be released/delivered in October 2023. Thanks so much. Marklin 38441 is already sold out,we gonna see the same for the 38440 too.Now is " article not yet in stock in marklin's website.I am waiting mine too.
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Welcome to Leipzig Hobby Spiel. And look at what was on Märklin stand: a Shay lok. It’s a project and MäTrix has issued a poll to ask visitors if they would be interested in the full development of this model. You can have a look in this video at 1m35. ?si=9Lot6uATTm3nQ9Cl    A.
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Welcome to Leipzig Hobby Spiel.
And look at what was on Märklin stand: a Shay lok.
It’s a project and MäTrix has issued a poll to ask visitors if they would be interested in the full development of this model.
I bet it goes ahead ...  It looks like it will be larger than 1:87, so that the C track counts as narrow gauge, which most Shays would be, so probably nearer O scale.
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Interesting. I never imagined that I would see a Shay from Marklin.
Good point about the gauge Alan, since Shays were normally narrow gauge. It makes you wonder how one of these would fit into an HO layout.
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I would not be surprised if Märklin plans to cooperate with Broadway Limited Imports and release a Märklin H0 version of their recent Commodore Vanderbilt Hudson. Märklin has earlier released a "Commodore Vanderbilt" in "O" and "Z"( 88075). The Märklin AK 70-12920 from 1936: Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan I shay, that is a good idea , It will probably be quit suited to pull some of my glass tank cars as they are a bit heavy when they are loaded up with the real stuff...... Prost!
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Originally Posted by: bph I would not be surprised if Märklin plans to cooperate with Broadway Limited Imports and release a Märklin H0 version of their recent Commodore Vanderbilt Hudson. I was also thinking exactly the same thing for a while already. I assumed it would be a surprise model, but maybe it will be in the 2024 new items? While the 'Commodore' is very nice, I would like a 'Dreyfuss Hudson' better.
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Well, I hope this is not a sign of what is to come ... https://www.modellbahn-kramm.com.../p/540/48030.002?lang=enA new set of 48030 series wagons, two wagons for which you get five Euro cents change from Euro 150 ...  This series of wagons used to be Euro 30-40 as individual wagons, and this pair are pretty plain, no fancy graphics, so I don't know if the price is being pushed for a limited series (500 units) or if this is reflecting price increases we are going to see in the New Items announcements. Must have been very popular- just tried the link only to be advised item no longer available!
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Two notes:
1- Many real-life shays were indeed gauged for standard gauge, so that isn't strange or not prototypical. (although most were narrow gauge)
2- I have both the broadway limited dreyfuss and their commodore vanderbilt, trust me when I say we would love both in AC for marklin! LOVELY brass and die cast models.... |
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The Commodore will be well received if Märklin produces it, assuming it is not more expensive than the FS.
The Shay is not my taste.
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