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Collector		#1 Posted : 12 March 2017 23:49:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/08/2016(UTC) Posts: 147 Location: Europe		Hi All, Does anyone know if the steamer in this set is also available separately or which Marklin model number it is based on? Marklin's database says: "The locomotive for prototypical double heading is available as item no. 37883" But if I remember correctly the prototypical double heading often consisted of 2 different type locos?
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kiwiAlan		#2 Posted : 13 March 2017 00:09:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,496 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Collector Hi All, Does anyone know if the steamer in this set is also available separately or which Marklin model number it is based on? Marklin's database says: "The locomotive for prototypical double heading is available as item no. 37883" But if I remember correctly the prototypical double heading often consisted of 2 different type locos? I don't know that the loco in the set ever was available seperately with the same road number, but you have a couple of options vis: - Check the other marklin 3788x series locos. Marklin tend to to assign blocks of numbers to a model and its variants. From memory the 37883 is different to the loco in the set, IIRC it is oil fired where the one in the set is coal fired, and I think this represents prototypical practice. Secondly check for the Trix locos produced for the Trix version of the Lange Henry. I don't think the Trix version came as a set, so the two locos were produced seperately. It wouldn't be too hard to make it run on three rail. The Trix Lange Henry items were produced in the same year as the Marklin ones. Another option may be to prowl ebay looking for the loco from the Marklin set. While you are at it, if you are going to properly model the Lange Henry the Trix set of wagons has a different set of road numbers to the marklin set and additional wagons. With the set, the Marklin additional wagons and the Trix wagons you end up with an almost prototypical length train.

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Bigdaddynz		#3 Posted : 13 March 2017 00:09:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,772 Location: New Zealand		37883 was the additional oil fired loco for the Langer Heinrich set, but I don't know if Marklin separately issued the loco from the 26536 set, at least as a Marklin item. Trix issued both locos as factory weathered versions - Items numbers are 22043 and 22044. Road numbers were the same as the Marklin locos - 44 494 and 44 100
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Bigdaddynz		#4 Posted : 13 March 2017 00:15:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,772 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Check the other marklin 3788x series locos. Marklin tend to to assign blocks of numbers to a model and its variants. None of the 3788x locos has the same road number as the 26536 loco (44 494) but 37880 might be the closest, although that's an era IV loco.
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Dave Banks		#5 Posted : 13 March 2017 01:04:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/03/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,046 Location: Gold Coast, Australia.		I think David is correct in saying for Marklin #37880 & #37883 would be what you are looking for. But if you want the prototypical scenario you would need to get your hands on the Trix versions of those locos & note both are weathered versions & both would need to be converted to 3 rail & not difficult to do at all. Makes for a really nice set on anyone's layout. https://www.google.com.au/search...=973&dpr=1.1#imgrc=_
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Bigdaddynz		#6 Posted : 13 March 2017 02:15:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,772 Location: New Zealand		I've posted these before, but here are some photos of my two Trix LH locos. Trix 22043 Trix 22044
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Bigdaddynz		#7 Posted : 13 March 2017 03:20:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,772 Location: New Zealand		Here's a document showing how to perform a 3 rail conversion of the Trix BR44's (German language) along with an English translation, partly done by a former boss of mine. Converting Trix BR44 to Maerklin 3 rail.doc (16kb) downloaded 38 time(s). Conversion of Trix BR44 to 3 rail running - 3LM-307 Umbau BR44 Trix.pdf (304kb) downloaded 40 time(s).
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H0		#8 Posted : 13 March 2017 08:21:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,452 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: DaveB But if you want the prototypical scenario Many locos have been used for the Langer Heinrich and more than just two running numbers will be prototypically correct. A BR 41 Oil or a BR V 200 can also be used as a second loco. Double heading in MRR will be easier with two BR 44 (coal or oil) because they have identical gears and motors and in the best case identical decoders.
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Collector		#9 Posted : 13 March 2017 14:13:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/08/2016(UTC) Posts: 147 Location: Europe		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Check the other marklin 3788x series locos. Marklin tend to to assign blocks of numbers to a model and its variants. None of the 3788x locos has the same road number as the 26536 loco (44 494) but 37880 might be the closest, although that's an era IV loco. Thanks guys. I asked because I already have the 37885. That however is also an era IV loco. It SEEMS that the wagons are the only era III version with the short coupler mechanism. Can anyone confirm that?
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Collector		#10 Posted : 13 March 2017 14:15:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/08/2016(UTC) Posts: 147 Location: Europe		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: DaveB But if you want the prototypical scenario Many locos have been used for the Langer Heinrich and more than just two running numbers will be prototypically correct. A BR 41 Oil or a BR V 200 can also be used as a second loco. Double heading in MRR will be easier with two BR 44 (coal or oil) because they have identical gears and motors and in the best case identical decoders. Mixing a steamer with a BR V200? Interesting. Were these trains also pulled by just a BR V200 or any other non-steamer in era III?
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H0		#11 Posted : 13 March 2017 16:34:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,452 Location: DE-NW		In ere III the V 200 were primarily used for passenger trains. Here are some pictures from era IV (see #15 and #24): http://www.bundesbahnzei...014-10-16_Emsland-Diesel The German Wikipedia mentions BR 50/BR 50 and BR V 100/BR 50 for era III (’60s): https://de.wikipedia.org...ki/Langer_Heinrich_(Zug)
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS

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Collector		#12 Posted : 13 March 2017 20:18:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/08/2016(UTC) Posts: 147 Location: Europe		Originally Posted by: H0 In ere III the V 200 were primarily used for passenger trains. Here are some pictures from era IV (see #15 and #24): http://www.bundesbahnzei...014-10-16_Emsland-Diesel The German Wikipedia mentions BR 50/BR 50 and BR V 100/BR 50 for era III (’60s): https://de.wikipedia.org...ki/Langer_Heinrich_(Zug) Reading that wikipedia link I get the impression that if in the sixties the BR50 was used that the BR44 must have been after the sixties but according to Marklin this set is era III
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steventrain		#13 Posted : 13 March 2017 21:04:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		I still have the 26536, 37883 and Trix 22043. Also two video of long henry in action 1973 and 1976.
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Bigdaddynz		#14 Posted : 13 March 2017 22:19:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,772 Location: New Zealand		You could also use a double headed BR151 or a BR218...
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Collector		#15 Posted : 13 March 2017 23:59:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/08/2016(UTC) Posts: 147 Location: Europe		For those looking for the road numbers of various sets see here: http://www.stummiforum.d...pic.php?p=676289#p676289
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Bigdaddynz		#16 Posted : 14 March 2017 02:41:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,772 Location: New Zealand		The wagon road numbers were posted in one of the previous threads on the Langer Heinrich / Long Henry topic, probably by Lutz Hemmerich. The list may have been deleted by Lutz when he left the forum. I did keep a copy though, so here is the list. Märklin #26536 "Langer Heinrich" 611 886 611 890 611 899 611 918 611 925 611 940 612 420 612 435 613 111 613 220 Märklin set #46255 612 100 612 321 612 389 613 078 613 150 TRIX set #24202 611 999 612 012 612 052 612 105 612 208 612 267 612 513 613 220 613 320 613 655 613 689 613 720 Märklin set #0775 611 892 611 900 611 905 611 910 611 915 612 022 612 026 612 109 612 221 612 261 613 014 613 091 TRIX set #24204 611 894 611 903 611 907 611 914 611 924 612 024 612 029 612 115 612 128 612 141 612 144 612 150
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dominator		#17 Posted : 14 March 2017 04:23:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 1,204 Location: Kerikeri		37882 is a class 043. Could that be used as well. Dereck
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RayF		#18 Posted : 15 March 2017 14:55:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Originally Posted by: dominator 37882 is a class 043. Could that be used as well. Dereck Class 043 is just an Oil burning Br44. After the change to computer numbers the oil burning Br44 were renumbered Br043 and the coal burning ones Br044. There is a similar case in the Br41 where the oil burners became the Br042 and the coal burners Br041
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dominator		#19 Posted : 15 March 2017 20:33:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 1,204 Location: Kerikeri		Yup. bought the 37882 new in about 1999. Nice model and goes very well.
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