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If the CS2 has a Selectrix, S6 Port no need for a green knobbed model,
Thanks Lutz for the concise translation.
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Why can't the knobs be interchangable so that each unit has a red and green set of knobs?
But in the end the result is the same, turn knob and the speed changes on chosen locomotive. So does it really matter what the colour is, or is it just a matter of choice and preference.
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I am excited by the pictures of the new CS. I was totally turned offed by the display of the first version and chose to stick with my 6021. In fact, I will stick with it until the new one is debugged. This is a classic case of not anticipating technology. No color on the first for example, forgetting all the other issues.
This is in my opinion an embaressment to Marklin to be introducing a product at this point when they have not solved the problems with their earlier product.
But, I look forward to their new product and hope it will be something that I want.
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"For the first time by a Märklin multi train controller integrated track layout control panel, the individual switching elements of magnetic articles and the routes of a Memory as well as the contacts s88 are all considered. This user interface provides an optimum in the clarity and switching comfort for the control of a layout. With the track occupancy signal it can also be detected whether a train is currently in a specific track areas. This is a high safety benefit especially for hidden layout areas."
I'm wondering what it is .
More : " how " it is ?
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Kifobefa
What make you think there will be a TRIX CS2, if you need one go for the Viessmann Commander or the ESU EcoS. Are there anything special you want from the "TRIX CS 2"
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Hello Berndt, for example the EcoS has no proper working Sx protocole support. It supports it only through the central, but not through the boosters. This is for example one reason to buy a trix CS. kind regards Stephan
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring
<br />Bigdaddynz & Lutz Hemmerich , thank you so much for the nice picture & explanations .
I second that guys. Dave thanks for the initial translation, and Lutz, thanks for the complete translation. Well done guys. I must say I do like the look of it  |
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A pleasure Macca, one is glad to be of service.... 
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />What is the price on CS2?
Don't think that has been announced yet Stephen. Hopefully, the same as the current CS!!
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and one is happy to receive such good service  Thanks for translation David and Lutz. david |
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Ehm, Guyz, could "digital" instead of "systems" be an indication of a change in product positioning. A new CS2 with DCC support might get a lot of 2 rail users to buy it ... a true breakthrough for M*. Interchangeable colour knobs is a good idea - interested Dave? maybe Purellum would be interested too licence fees apply (contact me for details indicating the colour) Cem. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Bigdaddynz<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />What is the price on CS2?
Don't think that has been announced yet Stephen. Hopefully, the same as the current CS!! Really BigDaddy[:0] I was hoping for less (so I can afford it[xx(]) [:p] |
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Lutz is right, Steven - since we're not in a hurry ... |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Hemmerich<br />The CS2 is hardware-wise prepared to provide all the needed SX connections, including the TRIX MS, as it was shown before with the TRIX CS1; as well the ability to plug in the "Connect-DCC" adapter. Hi Lutz, Does that mean that we only need an adapter to use DCC? Cem. |
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Marklins new CST2 is still an fantastic for members of Marklin.
I wonder if there is Trixmember who now are reacting after information about CST2 from Trix.
Besides is there an Trix forum somewhere...?
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
<br />Marklins new CST2 is still an fantastic for members of Marklin.
I wonder if there is Trixmember who now are reacting after information about CST2 from Trix.
Besides is there an Trix forum somewhere...?
Goofy
Too soon There is nothing official about a new Trix CST2 and here in France many people are still on the beach . In this country i'm surrounded with DCC and most of forums are talking about DCC systems only . There are more and more secondary incompatibilities between DCC systems .As said a technician involved in DCC ( working with MOROP too ):each manufacturer has his own interpretation of some features which are not mandatory in NMRA .( very few are Mandatory ) For example : Lenz have their own way to count the Bytes in a CV . Or some decoders programmed with a central don't work with another central , you have to reprogramm it with your own central.. + many other incompatibilities . More & more people recommend to choose items from a unique manufacturer or to act with full knowledge of the facts to avoid bad surprises [}:)]. But all people agree to say that it should be much worse without DCC NMRA specifications ( At least items are communicating with a unique language . But the language is not all..) With DCC it is recommended to avoid cheap bottom range decoders / their single advantage is : to be cheap .( quality of cristal ,instability , no updated programmation way etc...)
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You have to think that MArklin is back on the right track if the excitement that CS2 has generated is any indication. If CS2 proves robust, free of glitches (and reasonably priced) then you have to feel that the road back to profitability is somewhat clearer. That plus some of the "little things" that MArklin have done, like the additional siding in starter sets. I like that. |
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I agree Macca. Also Marklin need to ensure that all components outlined in the architecture diagram are available from day 1. We don't want another 60172 booster fiasco. That way people to want / need to expand their control systems can. Documentation needs to be available from day 1 too.
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ahhhhhhh but will the cs2 be available seperately before the starter sets (maybe in time for the christmas rush?)
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:  Does everyone who owns Central Station know if the old 6001 transformer could be fit in conneting to the CS2 in brown/yellow wires? Thanks in advance. Edited by moderator 11 January 2011 20:00:46(UTC)
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Hello Schannon,
in the CS package a cable to connect old transforer 6001 was included.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmrcnzjohn
<br />ahhhhhhh but will the cs2 be available seperately before the starter sets (maybe in time for the christmas rush?)
John
John, some of the Swiss dealers are expecting to be selling the CS2 in October.
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<br />And here are the reports & pictures on CS2 and architecture Great service, BigDaddy - thanks a lot !!! |
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Ahummm...
This is now an speculation in very hard way now...!
Forget about october...
I agreed at december instead or at beginning at 2009.
That seems in good way...!
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Lokshop listed the CS2 but await price.
It is best to order early in time for Christmas! |
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I can't find the "Märklin-brillen" in the systemarchitektur... /Torbjörn
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A "card" being an actual separate physical device which needs to be read in a special reader?? surely not.
May be some "Hub" to be connected to USB plug ? Is it plausible ? ( around 20/30 E with 2 or 3 formats )
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Something is happily buzzing me :
they said " 13 integrated route control panels (Memory), each with 32 routes "
Enormous ! It means 400 routes ! Equivalent to 18 "old " Memory ( 24 routes each and we couldn't use more than 3 Memory )!
What could be hidden behind such a hugh choice of routes ?
Imagine : 400 !!!!
If not a typo , I believe there is something....
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by drwhitl
[A "card" being an actual separate physical device which needs to be read in a special reader?? surely not. just take it as Lutz said: a physical card. There are two card readers built-in into the actual prototype, as u can see their slot-in openings on the picture showing the frontside. Thats why they moved the knobs to the bottom of the CS2. Mafi |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring
<br />Something is happily buzzing me :
they said " 13 integrated route control panels (Memory), each with 32 routes "
Enormous ! It means 400 routes ! Equivalent to 18 "old " Memory ( 24 routes each and we couldn't use more than 3 Memory )!
What could be hidden behind such a hugh choice of routes ?
Imagine : 400 !!!!
If not a typo , I believe there is something....
Just another wild speculation .
Ehrm? Why is this so special? As long as you don't activate all routes at the same time the number of routes, or switches, or whatever, is solely limited to the non volatile memory present in the box. Since memory is dirt cheap nowadays it seems logical that they offer way more than in the old memory. Bert
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Latest new:
CST2 will been arrived out at the end of november,did hobbystore at messe in Copenhagen said...!
Already so fast...?
Then in case,go ahead...!!!
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Slightly technical question, maybe.
Do you still need an "ugly box" track section for connection of the CS2?
Or does the O/B outlet (2 of) on the back of the CS2 do the job?
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<br />Slightly technical question, maybe.
Do you still need an "ugly box" track section for connection of the CS2?
Or does the O/B outlet (2 of) on the back of the CS2 do the job?
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You don´t need the "ugly box",because CST2 is the central control which are leaving out digitalpower to the tracks at once. So therefor outlet O/B needs only...! Goofy |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by kimballthurlow
<br />Slightly technical question, maybe.
Do you still need an "ugly box" track section for connection of the CS2?
Or does the O/B outlet (2 of) on the back of the CS2 do the job?
regards
Kimball
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Goofy and Pâl,
"You light up my life....." so the song goes.
You have just improved things for me 100%.
I checked the back of my CS, and it has the O/B socket. Great.
I am not sure if that wiring plug came with my CS, so I will check the box next time I'm at my layout location.
egards
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by pa-pauls<br />Don't nobody read manual's these days If you're an engineer (like me), reading the manual (for anything) is an admission of defeat |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Damon:<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by pa-pauls<br />Don't nobody read manual's these days If you're an engineer (like me), reading the manual (for anything) is an admission of defeat Yes that's it isn't it? But there's also a saying; If all else fails read the instructions.Kind regards Guus |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus
<br />But there's also a saying........
RTFM...........Read the Fine Manual......... ('Fine' is a nice clean 4 letter word.....)
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CS2 Germany Roadshow September. 22.9 Uhingen bei Göppingen, Gerberbräu, Kanalstr. 47, 73345 Uhingen 23.9 München, Avalon, Bahnhofstr. 30, 85609 Dornach bei München 24.9 Darmstadt, Centralstation, Im Carree, 64283 Darmstadt 25.9 Essen, Zeche Zollverein, Halle 21, Gelsenkirchener Str. 181, 45309 Essen 26.9 Hannover, Hangar Nr. 5, Völgerstraße 5, 30519 Hannover Full detail, see Insider club website if you log in. http://archiv.maerklin.de/iframe/insider/index.php |
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Well that saves me a trip to Essen (good 1 hr drive). I'm curious if there will be enough of this kind to fill the room. Otherwise it's a missed opportunity. Henk. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Hemmerich<br />These sessions are exclusive for Insider members and for a limited audience only (thus registration quantity is limited). They are independent from the roadshow sessions for dealers and just conducted at the same locations/days. If you go there, Make a report and pictures. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by DamonKelly<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by DamonKelly<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by pa-pauls<br />Don't nobody read manual's these days If you're an engineer (like me), reading the manual (for anything) is an admission of defeat Unfortunately, there's no "irony" emoticon... The irony is well understood Kind regards Guus |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by steventrain<br />CS2 Germany Roadshow September. 22.9 Uhingen bei Göppingen, Gerberbräu, Kanalstr. 47, 73345 Uhingen 23.9 München, Avalon, Bahnhofstr. 30, 85609 Dornach bei München 24.9 Darmstadt, Centralstation, Im Carree, 64283 Darmstadt 25.9 Essen, Zeche Zollverein, Halle 21, Gelsenkirchener Str. 181, 45309 Essen 26.9 Hannover, Hangar Nr. 5, Völgerstraße 5, 30519 Hannover Full detail, see Insider club website if you log in. http://archiv.maerklin.de/iframe/insider/index.php Nothing in Sweden...? Goofy |
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I'm sure Rutger will test it in "Allt om Hobby" and have it on his shows at model train fairs and shops in Sweden... But he seems to be more of a DCC/Intellibox fan the last 5-10 years...
Sweden is a small market since we buy most stuff from German dealers nowadays...
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<br />CS2 Germany Roadshow September.
Nothing in Sweden...? Goofy No, The Marklin roadshow only in Germany, I think. |
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Yep, it's "safe" to do seminars in your "home market" only... And cheaper... Let foreign dealers take the marketing costs for marketing the product outside Germany... |
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