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An arch bridge for rail and road traffic towering above a seagoing vessel in a lush green landscape in rather flat Northern Germany? Seriously? See the late (torn down in 1987) Grünentaler Hochbrücke over the Kiel Canal. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Normally frequented by railcars, here is a bigger guest appearing on the bridge mentioned above. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Hi all
Anyone know why the Grünentaler Hochbrücke over the Kiel Canal was torn down?
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Originally Posted by: hennabm  Anyone know why the Grünentaler Hochbrücke over the Kiel Canal was torn down?
Yes, someone knows.  Built in 1892, the bridge did not fulfill any more requirements for mechanical resistance and stability and safety. Then, the water-level width represented a bottleneck. Thus, a new steel bridge with divided sections for a single track, a two-lane road plus a sidewalk/bike path and a clear height of 42.55 m was constructed in parallel - see pic. The buttresses of the old bridge were conserved and serve as observation decks. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Hi AK Thanks for the inforamation and picture  mmmmmm - I must say I like the look of the older bridge.  Mike |
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Well, yes, I rest my case - see pic. How thoughtful of Mother Nature to place the round lake in the middle of the rail circle. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Great posts gentlemen, I really love seeing the stations over the tracks and road.
Would be nice to see that modeled. I do have houses on a plateau over arched structure over tracks.
But its not the same thing.
(arrived here by looking at train movie posts...)
- Mark
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DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70.
In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?
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Another space saver, this time from the German low lands: A double-track mainline (the left one, thus not the one with the southbound steam loco) serving as roof for a freight terminal . Where? On the southern approach to Hamburg-Hauptbahnhof some time before the 1960s electrifications. (Foto: Staatliche Landesbildstelle Hamburg) Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Joined: 27/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 5,862 Location: Leesburg,VA.USA
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Super photo, AK. I'd love to have a poster of that photo for my trainroom but alas even if I did I'd have no room on the walls. Peter 
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Another return loop at Argentine Blvd., Kansas City, USA. Courtesy of Bing Maps. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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A turnout on a steel bridge (above water)? With ballast? And the bridge custom-built to accommodate said turnout? Yes, in Pittsburgh (1966) - see left hand side at front end of bridge. As the construction looks new, it seems as if the track was still to be completed. Source: http://www.bcoolidge.comAlsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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The famous Cologne Railway bridge has points on it. I remember seeing these when I crossed over it. Peter  I was lucky to also find this photo of the BR44 freight Lok pulling an era3 Eilzug. 
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Hello Peter, You are quite correct, the Hohenzollern Bridge does have points. Regards, PJ    
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True, however turnout / track on Cologne bridge not ballasted. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek A turnout on a steel bridge (above water)? With ballast? And the bridge custom-built to accommodate said turnout? Yes, in Pittsburgh (1966) - see left hand side at front end of bridge. As the construction looks new, it seems as if the track was still to be completed. Source: http://www.bcoolidge.com I believe now complete and still intact. Added bonus, additional flyover of nearby tracks. -Brandon BrandonVA attached the following image(s): |
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Locos lying around on your layout? It is prototypical: see photo on NoHAB maintenance Trollhättan-style. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Yes, it's prototypical, especially if you model wartime or accidents. I don't and would never have any interest in it but to each his own, no? Peter 
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Wartime is a no-no for me. Accidents I do not model intentionally, but they do happen on my layout due to hubris and turnout operation negligence. |
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2 x Faller HO scale kit B-541? Canyon Diablo bridge, Arizona, USA. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Nice photo, AK. You know that's one thing "bridges" that really do not come into a European or North American look about them. Peter 
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Did you mean neither American nor European? Or did you mean both, American and European? Anyway, I allow Germany to meet the USA on a slightly altered Faller HO scale kit B-541 - see pic. ;-) Edited by user 17 November 2014 07:52:03(UTC)
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Hi AK. I meant bridges really look mostly the same on both continents when all metal except for the ones which have brick/stone masonry. Then they have a different look about them. Peter
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Toulouse/France - northern part or RR station: 1) Compact turntable without loco shed for steam and diesel. 2) Add electric locos, another turntable and a transfer table. Courtesy of Bing Maps. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Impressive facility at Toulouse.
I did not know that transfer tables could be so large.
regards
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And interestingly - and MRR compatible "space-savingly" - the two turntables feed the large transfer table. |
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And AK, somewhere in Germany before 1940, there were two turntables that intersected. The engine house required two turntables, but there was not the space to provide two independent structures. So the circular carriage rail in the pit of one, intersected the pit rail of the other. The space for this arrangement was only 1.7 times the space required for one. Someone posted pictures on this forum a few years ago. regards Kimball Edited by user 28 November 2014 10:11:00(UTC)
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HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge. |
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Regarding truly intersecting double turntables, there existed only two in Germany AFIK, one in Hamburg-Altona and one in Cologne (E.g., Koblenz had two turntables side-by-side, but they were not intersecting). I attach a color photo of Hamburg-Altona and a black and white photo of Cologne (the latter by C. Bellingrodt). Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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K track "Flexgleis" ? Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek K track "Flexgleis" ? If they were using flexgleis they could have made a smooth curve. More like they were using C-Track ...
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek K track "Flexgleis" ? Hi Ak, The blue diamond signs (there are two) in that photo denote the end of the catenary. Drivers of electric locos....... DON'T PROCEED any further!  regards Kimball |
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge. |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek ..."Bahnhof Zoo" in Berlin, Germany... Also theme of a modular layout of a Berlin high school - see pic. Link: www.modellbahn-gho.deAlsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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The late Luebeck Container Terminal (dismantled in 2009) on the banks of the river Trave connected the German rail network to seagoing vessels serving various Baltic Sea ports. The terminal had a MRR compatible trackage and size. Tracks were ballasted, and the curved dense design looks familiar to the crowded replication on many pikes. Pix courtesy of Google maps. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Containers stored on ballasted track. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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In to 2009 the two container cranes were sold and transported to Amsterdam in the Netherlands. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Inspired by this prototype, a Z-scaler kit-bashed a Maerklin container crane model. Source: http://zotti.lena-johannson.de/Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek The late Luebeck Container Terminal (dismantled in 2009) on the banks of the river Trave connected the German rail network to seagoing vessels serving various Baltic Sea ports. The terminal had a MRR compatible trackage and size. Tracks were ballasted, and the curved dense design looks familiar to the crowded replication on many pikes. Pix courtesy of Google maps. Hello AK, You continue to be a boundless source of fascinating information !! Regards, PJ
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Whimsical tunnels? Donner Pass, California. Courtesy of railpictures.net. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Whimsical tunnels?
Donner Pass, California.
Courtesy of railpictures.net. Hi AK, Another tunnel and they may as well take the whole hill away !!  Regards, PJ
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Hello Ak! I have such 'tunnels' on my Z layout... (still under construction) But it's not in parallel...  Cheers, Walter waorb attached the following image(s):
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In case anyone thought the shell wagon in their 29530 set was not prototypical; 
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What the heck - everyone else has posted their spiral, so why not mine?  If you look closely, you can see the "overlander" express at the top. Brief description; The railway forms an ascending spiral southwards, with two relatively short tunnels, a circle and three hairpin bends. From the north, trains pass Raurimu before going round a 180° bend to the left in a horseshoe curve, climbing above the track on which they have just travelled. Two sharp bends to the right follow, after which the line passes through two short tunnels. Trains then complete a full circle, crossing over the longer of the two tunnels through which they have just passed, before continuing towards Wellington. Two kilometres (1.2 mi) further on the line has two further sharp bends, to the right and then to the left. After the second of these bends a train has risen 132 metres (433 ft) and travelled 6.8 kilometres (4.2 mi) from Raurimu - the straight-line distance is 2 kilometres (1.2 mi). (courtesy of Wikipedia) I use this picture as my desktop - perhaps a vision of a part of my layout in future?
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In case anyone thought M* 4671 was not prototypical. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek In case anyone thought M* 4671 was not prototypical. Nice example...  Baujahr 1955?!? (construction year) Wow... pretty "old"... Cheers, Walter
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Double-track mainline with sweeping S-curve(s) on a slope? In the USA? Yes, former Santa Fe Raton Pass ascent. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Up to 3.3% slope to be precise. Here a 1992 coal drag. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Double-track mainline with sweeping S-curve(s) on a slope? In the USA? Yes, former Santa Fe Raton Pass ascent. I drove down I-25 through Raton Pass in '92. You could catch a glimps of the track from time to time. it looked like they did every engineering trick known to create that route. |
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DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
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Raton Pass summit tunnel: Separate portals on double-track mainline (ideal to hide a return loop). ;-) Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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