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Offline Alsterstreek  
#151 Posted : 03 March 2014 20:11:52(UTC)
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Still bricks left over? Why not replicate the Goeltzschtal bridge in Germany?
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#152 Posted : 04 March 2014 21:30:25(UTC)
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This British scene from the 1950s looks very MMR ideal.

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#153 Posted : 05 March 2014 09:56:41(UTC)
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No space? Need to employ a sector plate? It is prototypical - French ferry port of Boulogne in the 1950s - see lower left hand side at the end of the quay.
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#154 Posted : 05 March 2014 10:01:09(UTC)
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Futurama? Fancy UFO style? Want a circular building? See Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway station in Beijing, China.
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#155 Posted : 09 March 2014 18:59:37(UTC)
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No carpenter? No sculptor? Everything at street-level? Flat-top designer? Narrow curves left and right of the main station? Then get inspired by the late Everett Street Station, also called Milwaukee Union Station, a railway station formerly located in downtown Milwaukee, Wisconsin (USA).
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#156 Posted : 11 March 2014 18:56:45(UTC)
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Big oval. Yes, why not, they have done it at Riverland Ag Corp. grain loading facility, 250 Garfield Ave., Duluth MN ... (pic = Bing Maps)
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#157 Posted : 11 March 2014 19:03:24(UTC)
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Big oval. Yes, why not, they have done it for sulfur unloading in Vancouver ... (pic = Google Maps)
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#158 Posted : 14 March 2014 11:38:58(UTC)
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Space constraints in passenger terminus? Use a traverser like it used to be done at Moor Street Station in Birmingham, England.
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#159 Posted : 17 March 2014 11:37:21(UTC)
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Big passenger station with straight middle section but both approaches totaling almost ninety degrees? Prototypical in Cleveland, Ohio (USA).
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#160 Posted : 18 March 2014 16:23:28(UTC)
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Need an excuse for running electric locos without overhead wire? Pretend it is a third rail line! See French CC-7124 between Chambéry and St. Jean-de-Maurienne, 1971.
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#161 Posted : 18 March 2014 16:26:19(UTC)
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Again an electric loco running with lowered pantographs. Here the third rail is well visible: French CC-7140 between St. Jean-de-Maurienne and Modane, 1971.
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#162 Posted : 19 March 2014 14:03:20(UTC)
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Further info: The 100 km long French mainline Chambéry–Modane used to be equipped (1925-1976) with a third rail instead of overhead catenary. The 13.7 km long Fréjus Rail Tunnel (also called Mont Cenis Tunnel) in the European Alps is linking France and Italy. On the French side there is a horsehoe curve between Modane station and the tunnel portal. I attach two maps, the colored one courtesy of Google Maps.
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#163 Posted : 19 March 2014 14:18:32(UTC)
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Again, a perfect excuse for running electric locos without overhead catenary. Some more third rail pix:
1) Grade level crossings were challenging.
2) The orange box contains the pick-up shoe.

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#164 Posted : 19 March 2014 14:23:20(UTC)
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Those fascinating mountain railways: The Georgetown, Breckenridge and Leadville Railway in Colorado (USA) incorporated in 1880.
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#165 Posted : 19 March 2014 21:21:23(UTC)
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Pretend it is a third rail line!


Marklin enthusiasts should "pretend" there is a third rail? :)

-Brandon
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#166 Posted : 20 March 2014 11:14:57(UTC)
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Pretend it is a third rail line!


Marklin enthusiasts should "pretend" there is a third rail? :)

-Brandon


For you it would be a fourth rail then.LOL

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#167 Posted : 20 March 2014 21:00:52(UTC)
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#168 Posted : 20 March 2014 21:09:24(UTC)
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BNSF's Stege Wye is an inspiring tangle of track and road:

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More info: http://coxy.squarespace....nd-a-bnsf-baretable.html

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#169 Posted : 20 March 2014 23:45:50(UTC)
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I count six rails...Laugh

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#170 Posted : 21 March 2014 08:40:18(UTC)
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I count six rails...Laugh



Yes, but the two middle ones end at the end of the bridge on the Swedish side.

Link to a map of the Haparanda - Tornio area.

The bridge is between Finland and Sweden and given that the gauges are close - 1524 mm in Finland and 1435 mm in Sweden - there was no room to create a traditional three-rail track, instead this interleaved four-rail track was created. (Releated to the text on the map: Soumi is Finland in Finish and Sverige is Swedish for Sweden).

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#171 Posted : 21 March 2014 15:03:11(UTC)
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Gleisdreieck = "railway triangle" or wye in Berlin, Germany. Actually for the elevated interurban travel, but still inspiring.
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#172 Posted : 21 March 2014 15:19:42(UTC)
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Circling curves, triangles, bended bridges with a lot of traffic? Take the approach to Hamburg-Altona passenger terminus in Germany (actual station inside red circle). The long swinging bridge is bridging the "Diebsteich" (Thief's Pond) area.

When looking thoroughly, former freight terminal and engine service facility can be spotted. Hamburg city center and overseas port is visible in the distance. Mainline to the upper left (eastbound) is leading to Hamburg Central Station and further to Luebeck, Berlin and - after crossing the Elbe stream past the port - to Hannover and Bremen. The lower left mainline (northbound) is leading to the town of Kiel and Sylt island. On the lower right hand (westbound) is the commuter line to the suburb of Wedel.
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Offline waorb  
#173 Posted : 22 March 2014 04:10:41(UTC)
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Hello.

I just found this one. Seems to be Z Scale... RollEyes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brusio_spiral_viaduct



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#174 Posted : 22 March 2014 13:35:58(UTC)
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Hello.

I just found this one. Seems to be Z Scale... RollEyes

Cheers,

Walter


Not realistic, too clean: Does not look plausible.Flapper

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#175 Posted : 25 March 2014 01:14:51(UTC)
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Hi,

The Lubine Tunnel, Alsace, France.

A rather interesting tunnel exists on the line between Strasbourg and Saint-Dié in France.

The line was built after the First World War as a double-tracked alternative to the main line from Strasbourg to Nancy.
Anyway, the tunnel under a range of 600 metres above sea level, turns through a complete 90 degree arc, and is 1601 metres long.
I think that is fairly unusual on a main line (excepting of course the well-known spiral tunnels such as Gotthard).
The tunnel is not accessible except by the railway line, which makes it even more intriguing.
I am unable to find photos of the entrance portals.


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Offline Alsterstreek  
#176 Posted : 25 March 2014 11:03:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

The Lubine Tunnel, Alsace, France.
...
I am unable to find photos of the entrance portals.

regards
Kimball


"Lubine, entrée du tunnel pour la Percée des Vosges".
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#177 Posted : 25 March 2014 11:20:34(UTC)
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Doing above research, I found some prototypical short tunnels on the Andelot - La Cluse line in France.
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#178 Posted : 25 March 2014 11:25:54(UTC)
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This line offers nice bridges, too.
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#179 Posted : 25 March 2014 11:40:51(UTC)
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An even more impressive bridge on the same line, the Morez Viacuct; see map of this breathtaking stretch of the line.

The line Andelot-en-Montagne - La Cluse is in the French Jura mountains. The first stretch between the stations of Andelot and Champagnole opened in 1867. The last stretch Champagnole - St-Laurent opened in 1890. The stretch between Andelot and the station of Saint-Claude is nicknamed "Ligne des hirondelles" (hirondelles = swallows).
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#180 Posted : 25 March 2014 21:14:48(UTC)
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Time to get back in the mix:

Too many bridges on your layout? Never.

Blue Island Junction, south of Chicago, Illinois.

-Brandon
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#181 Posted : 25 March 2014 21:18:29(UTC)
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Agreed. If I just could view those pix...
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#182 Posted : 25 March 2014 21:25:49(UTC)
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Cheating a bit in repeats, but an excellent overhead view of the famous Tehachapi loop in California.

Interesting back story for the loop: http://engineering.dartmouth.ed...ventions-tehachapi-loop/

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#183 Posted : 25 March 2014 21:38:30(UTC)
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Agreed. If I just could view those pix...


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#184 Posted : 26 March 2014 11:53:19(UTC)
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Agreed. If I just could view those pix...


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Much obliged ! ThumpUp Wink
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#185 Posted : 27 March 2014 11:44:06(UTC)
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Having a mainline on your layout climbing up to the next level. Is it too steep? Are engines stalling? This is prototypical:

The "Steilrampe" (steep ramp) Erkrath–Hochdahl is part of the Düsseldorf–Wuppertal mainline. Climbing 82 m over 2.5 km results in a gradient of 33,3 ‰ which makes this one oft the steepest mainline stretches in Germany (and the steepest in entire Europe until 1981).

When opened in 1841, the slope was mastered with the help of a stationary steam engine which pulled the trains uphill with a rope via a return sheave (see photo 1 of the preserved return sheave). Since this turned out to be unpractical, the installation was altered to allow a downhill moving locomotive to pull an oncoming train uphill (see photo 2, 1926). As of 1926 the assignment of powerful locomotives as helper engines ended this practices. As of then, heavy freight trains were assisted by up to three helpers, two pushing and one pulling, so that up to four locomotives took a run-up in order to move a train uphill (see photos 3 and 4, 1960s). Only after the electrification in the 1960s trains managed to climb the ramp without helpers (see photo 5). Still, the climb remained a demanding manoeuver until the 1980s.

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#186 Posted : 28 March 2014 11:07:00(UTC)
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Flattop layout? Curved, with short trains breaking through the vegetation? See Malente in the north German state of Schleswig-Holstein.

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#187 Posted : 28 March 2014 11:08:39(UTC)
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Secondary mainline with station? Too heavy traffic with big motive power? Take Eutin in the north German state of Schleswig-Holstein, 1981.

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#188 Posted : 28 March 2014 18:43:05(UTC)
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Hi all,

If anyone is feeling depressed their layout is not prototypical enough, here are a few interesting prototypes that seem to be inspired by layout design:

...

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Keddie Wye (Keddie, California)

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Bridge over the Feather River (near Pulga, California)

-Brandon


Here is the perception of an Italian N scale model railroader how to reflect this in a rather compressed layout. I would keep one of the loops visible to represent the Williams Loop and squeeze the Pulga bridge into the layout..
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#189 Posted : 28 March 2014 21:14:34(UTC)
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Very fancy, don't tempt me to start another layout (yet).

Former DRGW F7 at Royal Gorge. Much of this line was cut through a canyon, you see this unique truss as a result. Certainly a bit of balsawood would make this in HO.

-Brandon
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#190 Posted : 28 March 2014 21:17:26(UTC)
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Those fascinating mountain railways: The Georgetown, Breckenridge and Leadville Railway in Colorado (USA) incorporated in 1880.


Another view of the Georgetown railway loop.
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#191 Posted : 28 March 2014 21:20:57(UTC)
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"The loop" on the Alaska Railroad near Bartlett Glacier.

More info: http://alaskarails.org/historical/the-loop/
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#192 Posted : 29 March 2014 13:48:13(UTC)
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Very fancy, don't tempt me to start another layout (yet).

Former DRGW F7 at Royal Gorge. Much of this line was cut through a canyon, you see this unique truss as a result. Certainly a bit of balsawood would make this in HO.

-Brandon


A new layout? May I voice a wish? I would like to see something compact like that:
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#193 Posted : 02 April 2014 15:17:52(UTC)
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Slightly off topic, since this is impossible to model. However, it might serve as a reminder to keep track arrangements simple - Newcastle on Tyne, England.


Again something you might want to avoid on your layout: 21st Street interlocking in Chicago in the last century.

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#194 Posted : 02 April 2014 16:45:26(UTC)
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...or that (Franfurt/Main, Germany).
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#195 Posted : 02 April 2014 17:07:55(UTC)
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No space, no turnouts, many trains? You might rather aspire this: "Hamburg-Dammtor" station in Germany opened in 1903 is one of the four long distance train stations in Hamburg. In spite of size and importance, the station is classified as a "Haltepunkt" as neither a turnout exists nor trains change directions or start or end there. There are four elevated tracks on two island platforms, servicing long distance trains and commuter trains, respectively. Every passenger trains stops, while freight trains do not.

http://www.bahnhofsbilde...urg/dammtor/dammtor.html
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#196 Posted : 02 April 2014 17:26:02(UTC)
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In case you have some turnouts left over, you might like this prototype:

Originally opened in 1882 for commuter trains, during the Cold War "Bahnhof Zoo" in Berlin, Germany - having only two platforms and four tracks for long-distance trains - remained the only long-distance train station within West Berlin, operated by the Deutsche Reichsbahn (DR) of East Germany. Following the launching of the new Berlin Hauptbahnhof in 2006, Bahnhof Zoo lost its importance with virtually all long-distance services now passing through the station without stopping.

See photo of DR Class 01.5 hauling a train to West-Germany, 1973.
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#197 Posted : 02 April 2014 17:35:09(UTC)
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Has been modeled, too.

(https://www.marklin-users.net/forum/yaf_postst30866_PRIMEX-layouts.aspx#post451574)
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#198 Posted : 03 April 2014 13:20:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
In case you have some turnouts left over, you might like this prototype:

Originally opened in 1882 for commuter trains, during the Cold War "Bahnhof Zoo" in Berlin, Germany - having only two platforms and four tracks for long-distance trains - remained the only long-distance train station within West Berlin, operated by the Deutsche Reichsbahn (DR) of East Germany. Following the launching of the new Berlin Hauptbahnhof in 2006, Bahnhof Zoo lost its importance with virtually all long-distance services now passing through the station without stopping.

See photo of DR Class 01.5 hauling a train to West-Germany, 1973.


AND.......

Berlin Zoologischer in 1998 :

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Regards,

PJ
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#199 Posted : 04 April 2014 10:37:37(UTC)
Alsterstreek

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Also modeled on the LOXX layout in Berlin (adjacent to wooded hills).
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Offline BrandonVA  
#200 Posted : 15 April 2014 21:54:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post

A new layout? May I voice a wish? I would like to see something compact like that:


Ak,

What are the dimensions?

-Brandon
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