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Offline Alsterstreek  
#251 Posted : 01 October 2014 13:45:36(UTC)
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An arch bridge for rail and road traffic towering above a seagoing vessel in a lush green landscape in rather flat Northern Germany? Seriously? See the late (torn down in 1987) Grünentaler Hochbrücke over the Kiel Canal.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#252 Posted : 01 October 2014 13:49:51(UTC)
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Normally frequented by railcars, here is a bigger guest appearing on the bridge mentioned above.
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Offline BrandonVA  
#253 Posted : 03 October 2014 19:45:28(UTC)
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Loco mashup:

BR50, 64, 23, 52, 44.

Credit:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99758559@N07/14705519069
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Offline hennabm  
#254 Posted : 03 October 2014 21:06:38(UTC)
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Hi all

Anyone know why the Grünentaler Hochbrücke over the Kiel Canal was torn down?

Mike
1957 - 1985 era
What's digital?
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#255 Posted : 03 October 2014 22:36:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hennabm Go to Quoted Post
Anyone know why the Grünentaler Hochbrücke over the Kiel Canal was torn down?


Yes, someone knows.BigGrin

Built in 1892, the bridge did not fulfill any more requirements for mechanical resistance and stability and safety. Then, the water-level width represented a bottleneck. Thus, a new steel bridge with divided sections for a single track, a two-lane road plus a sidewalk/bike path and a clear height of 42.55 m was constructed in parallel - see pic. The buttresses of the old bridge were conserved and serve as observation decks.
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Offline hennabm  
#256 Posted : 04 October 2014 00:15:55(UTC)
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Hi AK

Thanks for the inforamation and pictureThumpUp

mmmmmm - I must say I like the look of the older bridge.Smile

Mike
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What's digital?
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#257 Posted : 07 October 2014 18:13:46(UTC)
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Well, yes, I rest my case - see pic. How thoughtful of Mother Nature to place the round lake in the middle of the rail circle.
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Offline Mark5  
#258 Posted : 10 October 2014 04:11:39(UTC)
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Great posts gentlemen, I really love seeing the stations over the tracks and road.
Would be nice to see that modeled. I do have houses on a plateau over arched structure over tracks.
But its not the same thing.

(arrived here by looking at train movie posts...)

- Mark

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#259 Posted : 24 October 2014 17:00:20(UTC)
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Another space saver, this time from the German low lands: A double-track mainline (the left one, thus not the one with the southbound steam loco) serving as roof for a freight terminal .

Where? On the southern approach to Hamburg-Hauptbahnhof some time before the 1960s electrifications.

(Foto: Staatliche Landesbildstelle Hamburg)
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Offline petestra  
#260 Posted : 24 October 2014 22:46:05(UTC)
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Super photo, AK. I'd love to have a poster of that photo for my trainroom but alas even if I did I'd have no room on the walls. Peter Love
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#261 Posted : 27 October 2014 12:49:26(UTC)
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Another return loop at Argentine Blvd., Kansas City, USA.
Courtesy of Bing Maps.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#262 Posted : 28 October 2014 22:34:30(UTC)
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A turnout on a steel bridge (above water)? With ballast? And the bridge custom-built to accommodate said turnout? Yes, in Pittsburgh (1966) - see left hand side at front end of bridge. As the construction looks new, it seems as if the track was still to be completed.

Source: http://www.bcoolidge.com
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Offline petestra  
#263 Posted : 29 October 2014 00:47:07(UTC)
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The famous Cologne Railway bridge has points on it. I remember seeing these when I crossed over it. Peter Smile



UserPostedImage


I was lucky to also find this photo of the BR44 freight Lok pulling an era3 Eilzug.


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Offline PJMärklin  
#264 Posted : 29 October 2014 11:20:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: petestra Go to Quoted Post
The famous Cologne Railway bridge has points on it. I remember seeing these when I crossed over it. Peter Smile



UserPostedImage


I was lucky to also find this photo of the BR44 freight Lok pulling an era3 Eilzug.


UserPostedImage


Hello Peter,

You are quite correct, the Hohenzollern Bridge does have points.

Regards,

PJ

UserPostedImage

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#265 Posted : 29 October 2014 12:13:36(UTC)
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True, however turnout / track on Cologne bridge not ballasted.
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Offline BrandonVA  
#266 Posted : 03 November 2014 03:45:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
A turnout on a steel bridge (above water)? With ballast? And the bridge custom-built to accommodate said turnout? Yes, in Pittsburgh (1966) - see left hand side at front end of bridge. As the construction looks new, it seems as if the track was still to be completed.

Source: http://www.bcoolidge.com


I believe now complete and still intact. Added bonus, additional flyover of nearby tracks.

-Brandon
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#267 Posted : 03 November 2014 18:59:14(UTC)
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Re-visiting an earlier post: https://www.marklin-user...utations.aspx#post469064

Center stubs / pukos in the middle of prototype rails? Or even a solid center rail?
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#268 Posted : 04 November 2014 21:40:45(UTC)
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Locos lying around on your layout? It is prototypical: see photo on NoHAB maintenance Trollhättan-style.
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Offline petestra  
#269 Posted : 04 November 2014 22:41:31(UTC)
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Yes, it's prototypical, especially if you model wartime or accidents. I don't and would never have any interest in it but

to each his own, no? Peter Huh
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#270 Posted : 04 November 2014 23:45:52(UTC)
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Wartime is a no-no for me. Accidents I do not model intentionally, but they do happen on my layout due to hubris and turnout operation negligence.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#271 Posted : 13 November 2014 16:39:44(UTC)
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2 x Faller HO scale kit B-541? Canyon Diablo bridge, Arizona, USA.
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Offline petestra  
#272 Posted : 13 November 2014 20:52:53(UTC)
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Nice photo, AK. You know that's one thing "bridges" that really do not come into a European or North American look about them. Peter Cool
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#273 Posted : 16 November 2014 21:32:17(UTC)
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Did you mean neither American nor European? Or did you mean both, American and European? Anyway, I allow Germany to meet the USA on a slightly altered Faller HO scale kit B-541 - see pic.

;-)

Edited by user 17 November 2014 07:52:03(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline petestra  
#274 Posted : 16 November 2014 23:05:57(UTC)
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Hi AK. I meant bridges really look mostly the same on both continents when all metal except for the ones which have brick/stone masonry. Then they have a

different look about them. Peter Cool
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#275 Posted : 25 November 2014 13:04:00(UTC)
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Toulouse/France - northern part or RR station:

1) Compact turntable without loco shed for steam and diesel.
2) Add electric locos, another turntable and a transfer table.

Courtesy of Bing Maps.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#276 Posted : 25 November 2014 20:38:11(UTC)
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Impressive facility at Toulouse.
I did not know that transfer tables could be so large.

regards
Kimball
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#277 Posted : 25 November 2014 23:28:16(UTC)
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And interestingly - and MRR compatible "space-savingly" - the two turntables feed the large transfer table.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#278 Posted : 26 November 2014 00:42:21(UTC)
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And AK, somewhere in Germany before 1940, there were two turntables that intersected.
The engine house required two turntables, but there was not the space to provide two independent structures.

So the circular carriage rail in the pit of one, intersected the pit rail of the other.
The space for this arrangement was only 1.7 times the space required for one.

Someone posted pictures on this forum a few years ago.
regards
Kimball

Edited by user 28 November 2014 10:11:00(UTC)  | Reason: Updated to reflect following posts

HO Scale - Märklin (ep III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail (USA and Australia) - 3 rail (English Hornby Dublo) - a few old O gauge.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#279 Posted : 26 November 2014 14:53:11(UTC)
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Regarding truly intersecting double turntables, there existed only two in Germany AFIK, one in Hamburg-Altona and one in Cologne (E.g., Koblenz had two turntables side-by-side, but they were not intersecting). I attach a color photo of Hamburg-Altona and a black and white photo of Cologne (the latter by C. Bellingrodt).

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#280 Posted : 03 December 2014 14:22:07(UTC)
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K track "Flexgleis" ?
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#281 Posted : 03 December 2014 15:32:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
K track "Flexgleis" ?


If they were using flexgleis they could have made a smooth curve. More like they were using C-Track ... BigGrin
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#282 Posted : 28 December 2014 22:30:05(UTC)
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No space for a diesel engine service area? Not even a tank car at your disposal? How about a roadside refueling like this on the Lucerne & Susquhana?

Source: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/c.../topic/48998-helm/page-6
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#283 Posted : 29 December 2014 00:05:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
K track "Flexgleis" ?


Hi Ak,
The blue diamond signs (there are two) in that photo denote the end of the catenary.

Drivers of electric locos....... DON'T PROCEED any further!

https://www.marklin-users.net/forum/resource.ashx?p=25715

regards
Kimball
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#284 Posted : 11 January 2015 12:06:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
..."Bahnhof Zoo" in Berlin, Germany...


Also theme of a modular layout of a Berlin high school - see pic.

Link: www.modellbahn-gho.de
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#285 Posted : 27 January 2015 16:29:54(UTC)
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The late Luebeck Container Terminal (dismantled in 2009) on the banks of the river Trave connected the German rail network to seagoing vessels serving various Baltic Sea ports. The terminal had a MRR compatible trackage and size. Tracks were ballasted, and the curved dense design looks familiar to the crowded replication on many pikes. Pix courtesy of Google maps.
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#286 Posted : 27 January 2015 17:16:28(UTC)
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Containers stored on ballasted track.
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#287 Posted : 27 January 2015 17:20:06(UTC)
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In to 2009 the two container cranes were sold and transported to Amsterdam in the Netherlands.
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#288 Posted : 27 January 2015 17:35:14(UTC)
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Inspired by this prototype, a Z-scaler kit-bashed a Maerklin container crane model. Source: http://zotti.lena-johannson.de/
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Offline PJMärklin  
#289 Posted : 28 January 2015 11:14:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
The late Luebeck Container Terminal (dismantled in 2009) on the banks of the river Trave connected the German rail network to seagoing vessels serving various Baltic Sea ports. The terminal had a MRR compatible trackage and size. Tracks were ballasted, and the curved dense design looks familiar to the crowded replication on many pikes. Pix courtesy of Google maps.


Hello AK,

You continue to be a boundless source of fascinating information !!


Regards,

PJ
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#290 Posted : 18 February 2015 21:01:34(UTC)
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Whimsical tunnels?
Donner Pass, California.
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#291 Posted : 19 February 2015 01:18:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Whimsical tunnels?
Donner Pass, California.
Courtesy of railpictures.net.



Hi AK,
Another tunnel and they may as well take the whole hill away !! LOL

Regards,

PJ
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Offline waorb  
#292 Posted : 19 February 2015 14:36:07(UTC)
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Hello Ak!

I have such 'tunnels' on my Z layout... (still under construction)
But it's not in parallel...

RollEyes

Cheers,

Walter

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Offline Token  
#293 Posted : 20 February 2015 14:43:05(UTC)
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In case anyone thought the shell wagon in their 29530 set was not prototypical;

Shell Wagon 29530

BigGrin
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#294 Posted : 20 February 2015 15:20:05(UTC)
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What the heck - everyone else has posted their spiral, so why not mine?

Raurimu Spiral New Zealand

If you look closely, you can see the "overlander" express at the top.

Brief description;

The railway forms an ascending spiral southwards, with two relatively short tunnels, a circle and three hairpin bends. From the north, trains pass Raurimu before going round a 180° bend to the left in a horseshoe curve, climbing above the track on which they have just travelled. Two sharp bends to the right follow, after which the line passes through two short tunnels. Trains then complete a full circle, crossing over the longer of the two tunnels through which they have just passed, before continuing towards Wellington. Two kilometres (1.2 mi) further on the line has two further sharp bends, to the right and then to the left.

After the second of these bends a train has risen 132 metres (433 ft) and travelled 6.8 kilometres (4.2 mi) from Raurimu - the straight-line distance is 2 kilometres (1.2 mi). (courtesy of Wikipedia)

I use this picture as my desktop - perhaps a vision of a part of my layout in future? RollEyes
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#295 Posted : 20 February 2015 16:45:03(UTC)
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In case anyone thought M* 4671 was not prototypical.
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#296 Posted : 20 February 2015 16:50:24(UTC)
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In case anyone thought M* 4671 was not prototypical.


Nice example... Woot

Baujahr 1955?!? (construction year)
Wow... pretty "old"...

Cheers,

Walter
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#297 Posted : 21 February 2015 16:37:13(UTC)
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Double-track mainline with sweeping S-curve(s) on a slope? In the USA? Yes, former Santa Fe Raton Pass ascent.
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#298 Posted : 21 February 2015 16:42:14(UTC)
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Up to 3.3% slope to be precise. Here a 1992 coal drag.
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#299 Posted : 22 February 2015 00:27:07(UTC)
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Double-track mainline with sweeping S-curve(s) on a slope? In the USA? Yes, former Santa Fe Raton Pass ascent.


I drove down I-25 through Raton Pass in '92. You could catch a glimps of the track from time to time. it looked like they did every engineering trick known to create that route.
Matt
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DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
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With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
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#300 Posted : 22 February 2015 14:35:44(UTC)
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Raton Pass summit tunnel: Separate portals on double-track mainline (ideal to hide a return loop).

;-)
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