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DaleSchultz		#1 Posted : 06 February 2008 01:11:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 3,997		http://www.bilder-hochla...et/files/5igw-a-jpg.html What is more interesting to me is what they have for a computer interface.
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laalves		#2 Posted : 06 February 2008 01:22:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		Ah, it seems they have finally awaken! Looks good, aesthetically speaking and specs wise.
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mmervine		#3 Posted : 06 February 2008 01:29:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,893 Location: Keene, NH		Looks pretty cool, can't wait to see the details! Maybe it still supports the I2C bus? r/mark
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Frostie		#4 Posted : 06 February 2008 01:34:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,614 Location: Birmingham,Alabama		Tiny screen and tiny buttons - but it does look like an improvement
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DaleSchultz		#5 Posted : 06 February 2008 02:24:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 3,997		For my purposes, (computer control) I don't care how small the screen is since I design my own user interface however big or small I want it - on the computer. In fact, since small screen are cheaper than bigger screens I am happy with small! I understand for non-computer operators the screen is of course very important so I hope it is good enough for mass appeal.
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alonso231gery		#6 Posted : 06 February 2008 02:44:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,959 Location: Hellas (Athens)		I wonder if it can be connected with the cs?
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Ross		#7 Posted : 06 February 2008 07:19:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 945 Location: Sydney, NSW		Hi Dale, This looks interesting. I think the computer interface is USB. Ross Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by DaleSchultz What is more interesting to me is what they have for a computer interface.
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Katchina		#8 Posted : 06 February 2008 09:23:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/06/2007(UTC) Posts: 112 Location: Spontin,		IMHO, USB is a pain because you have all sorts of issues with cable lenght, you need one specific computer to be on if you want to access the box from another system on the network. I think an ethernet interface would have been better... But YMMV And of course I'm biased as I'm a computer guy.
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RayF		#9 Posted : 06 February 2008 09:47:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Any idea on price?
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xxup		#10 Posted : 06 February 2008 10:02:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,583 Location: Australia		Too late for me.. As is the new CD-ROM ISO file to load version 1.55 using a computer that does not have a floppy drive (see http://www.uhlenbrock.de...204-005.apd/IBUpdate.ISO ) Cheers
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DasBert33		#11 Posted : 06 February 2008 10:09:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,272		Katchina, I agree. Everything in the embedded world is moving towards ethernet. It is a missed opportunity not to implement it here. Ethernet is in all ways superior to USB (IMHO). I don't think this device will be much of an improvement over the current IB: too little, too late. By the time they can sell it all the other new command stations will (should!) have taken over the market. Bert
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kgsjoqvist		#12 Posted : 06 February 2008 11:20:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 754 Location: Täby		It looks very user-friendly, which is the real important point. The IB of today is targeted towards a tech-oriented user. This new design has more buttons, but they are color-coded to make it easier to find the right one. The display is also more like the CS and ECoS with its' function buttons on the side. No touch-screen, but a smart implementation of scroll buttons to access more icons if needed. Depending on the pricing of this new central it might be exactly what I want...
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viragoLDR		#13 Posted : 06 February 2008 11:55:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 703 Location: ,		Look okay, but it's no big step forward compared to what the current IB does. Seems they didn't even bother to add Selectrix, even though that's still used an awful lot in N-scale. As for computer interface, it's mentioned on the linked site that it's USB. Not a problem for me personally, in fact, I prefer USB over Ethernet for things like this. Don't like their slogan too much either, "Designed for people who want to play with trains, not computers" .. Talk about alienating those who like computer control, or need it due to the size and/or complexity of the layout... Anyway, I think it'll need to have a very reasonable price for it to compete with CS/ECoS/Commander, somewhere along the lines of 100-150 euro cheaper than the "big ones" at least.
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Bigdaddynz		#14 Posted : 06 February 2008 12:15:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,768 Location: New Zealand		Lets face it, what has this new IB got that the Ecos hasn't (presumably apart from support for Loconet and the Lissy components), and the Ecos has an Ethernet interface plus a head start. If the new IB is cheaper, say around 360 euros inc VAT (300 ex VAT) it may be worthwhile. We shall see.....
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Lars Westerlind		#15 Posted : 06 February 2008 12:23:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/10/2001(UTC) Posts: 2,379 Location: Lindome, Sweden		For me the most important thing is that they do something. I do not need a better central for the moment, but I do need a healthy future for LocoNet. Personally I would have prefered a modular central, which core is the functionality of the central, and throttles/booster could be chosen much more freely. Those who want a colour screen could select a computer, a Palm or whatever. But Uhlenbrock is too small to change peoples desires after one unit with "everything". I wonder about the link though. I guess it will be confirmed tomorrow morning, when the fair starts. /Lars
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Lars Westerlind		#16 Posted : 06 February 2008 12:32:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/10/2001(UTC) Posts: 2,379 Location: Lindome, Sweden		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine <br />Looks pretty cool, can't wait to see the details! Maybe it still supports the I2C bus? r/mark It's clear they don't intend to, and I find it very logical. I2C units are restricted to 80/256 adresses, 14 speed steps, 1+4 functions and has nothing to do with a new or future item like this. Possibly the 6021-LocoNet adapter could be used if equpped with new software. It has the potential to be much better than the common "sniffer" functionality, but again, I doubt many people would be prepared to pay for this. Sorry, as I get the feeling you have some units you want to use. I have some units too, but only as nostalgica already.
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David Dewar		#17 Posted : 06 February 2008 13:24:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,452 Location: Scotland		Does seem very small and unless as Dale says you are using a computer screen I cant see it selling. Pity as I would like some of the features with this system. Even an English part on the site would have been good and I would have known what it does. David
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hmsfix		#18 Posted : 06 February 2008 14:13:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,383 Location: Darmstadt,		Very interesting news... Still it's some time ahead, but one day I'll have to replace my trusty CU. What I need is: - most important: as simple as possible. No clicking through 283 menus, please (That's why I still like my CU) - DCC + Motorola capabilities, - Support of Multi-loco consists - Lissy with Direct drive function for lazy guys - Displaying scaled kmh/mph is an interesting point - BTW, mfx is ok but not a "must have" for me - not so happy with USB here, too IMHO, IB-2 could be an alternative to Ecos. Hans Martin
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DaleSchultz		#19 Posted : 06 February 2008 16:08:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 3,997		I also read that is uses a USB connection, but when I say I am interested in knowing what the interface is I mean the syntax - the command set that it uses. @David - this is not a Uhlenbrock site, someone uploaded a page of a German brochure - so I assume that eventually when Uhlenbrock announce the IB II, their website will be a bit more comprehensive and possibly have English pages too.
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David Dewar		#20 Posted : 06 February 2008 18:13:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,452 Location: Scotland		Hi Dale. Thanks. Would be good to read in English and have a note of all the facilties available. David
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dntower85		#21 Posted : 06 February 2008 18:39:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by DaleSchultz <br />I also read that is uses a USB connection, but when I say I am interested in knowing what the interface is I mean the syntax - the command set that it uses. @David - this is not a Uhlenbrock site, someone uploaded a page of a German brochure - so I assume that eventually when Uhlenbrock announce the IB II, their website will be a bit more comprehensive and possibly have English pages too. it looks like the info would come out at the toy fair. maybe they are getting the publics opinion on it be fore the web release. naaa I don't see where the USB would be any big draw back, all new computers have them and I have run USB cables as much as 25 feet with out repeaters, and I cant see why you would want a computer that far away from your layout. If they have kept the same syntax and not gone to some badly designed code with undocumented encapsulated functions. if you want something better than USB then why not bluetooth or something else wireless.
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frankie		#22 Posted : 06 February 2008 18:53:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 692 Location: Italy		Have you noticed that the picture says "2009", I think is yet to came....
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DaleSchultz		#23 Posted : 06 February 2008 19:02:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 3,997		yes, the fact that it is marked as 2009 suggests there is lots of work to be done.... and specs will likely be vague at this stage
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Goofy		#24 Posted : 06 February 2008 19:36:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		If not less,that they have been already stand by...!? Intellibox II seems more easy and comfortable than Marklins CS. I see forward when it arrives out to the market. And besides,forget about CS...! It´s my opion... Goofy
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David Dewar		#25 Posted : 06 February 2008 21:59:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,452 Location: Scotland		Goofy. Can you tell me what you are using at present and what you are buying. What do you think is wrong with the CS. David
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laalves		#26 Posted : 06 February 2008 23:30:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />If not less,that they have been already stand by...!? Intellibox II seems more easy and comfortable than Marklins CS. I see forward when it arrives out to the market. And besides,forget about CS...! It´s my opion... Goofy Goofy, I agree with you completely. In fact, you have to wait for Viessmann Commander IV, due in 2025, that one is indeed the best. This is based in absolutely 1000% certain super-ultra-Insider information. DO NOT buy anything at the moment. BTW, another piece of highly valuable information I have recently received from a highly regarded Siberian-Mongol expert, is that Märklin locomotives will levitate by July 2024, on time for the Summer news. They will all be in Era I versions. Have fun, Luís
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Webmaster		#27 Posted : 06 February 2008 23:51:07(UTC) Retweet
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mmervine		#28 Posted : 07 February 2008 04:43:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,893 Location: Keene, NH		Lars: I have ordered an ECoS and am waiting for delivery. I have to say however, that I really like the IB. Our club (ETE-ENE) uses the IB and I like the 'older' Marklin components such as the keyboards and 6035/36. It would be nice to be able to still use them, but I understand, at some point, technology must move forward. I hope for all of those like Dale, who have invested so much in programming, that they have maintained the command set. r/mark
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Bigdaddynz		#29 Posted : 07 February 2008 11:43:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,768 Location: New Zealand		I think Goofy has said in another recent post that he has brought a CS........
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Goofy		#30 Posted : 07 February 2008 12:55:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		That´s right...! But i was dissapointed by using CS and did return back CS to hobbystore. No more CS for me...! [:(!] Goofy
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hxmiesa		#31 Posted : 07 February 2008 14:31:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,589 Location: Spain		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy But i was dissapointed by using CS and did return back CS to hobbystore. The shop, already knowing Goofy too well, just gave him an old defunc MS, with the letters "CS" slapped on the front...
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alonso231gery		#32 Posted : 07 February 2008 15:15:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,959 Location: Hellas (Athens)		What the owner of the shop said to you?
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Caplin		#33 Posted : 07 February 2008 16:00:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,497 Location: Denmark		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hxmiesa <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy But i was dissapointed by using CS and did return back CS to hobbystore. The shop, already knowing Goofy too well, just gave him an old defunc MS, with the letters "CS" slapped on the front...
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Goofy		#34 Posted : 07 February 2008 16:41:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		But,i´m smarter now when i see Viessmann Commander or even perhaps with the new Intellibox II by choising them...! Why...? DCC and MM... What else...? Goofy [}:)]
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hxmiesa		#35 Posted : 07 February 2008 17:38:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,589 Location: Spain		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />But,i´m smarter now when i see Viessmann Commander or even perhaps with the new Intellibox II by choising them...! Why...? DCC and MM... What else...? Jokes aside... IMHO the really wise people either; ALready own an IB, because it was the best choice of it´s generation, OR buy the TAM's central because it does most of what you need, for a minimum investment. The rest is... !IMHO! just a waste of $€$€. -Buy some nice locos instead... (running for cover!)
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David Dewar		#36 Posted : 07 February 2008 17:42:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,452 Location: Scotland		I think the shop just keeps giving him the same MS only with Commander or IB or ECOS pasted on the front. Goofy I keep asking what you are using now ? Do you actually have a model railway with a control system. David PS there is always the new system coming soon which has DCC and Marklin The G Tenalp which looks very good.
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steventrain		#37 Posted : 07 February 2008 18:47:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />That´s right...! But i was dissapointed by using CS and did return back CS to hobbystore. No more CS for me...! [:(!] Goofy Why, What went wrong with the CS, Goofy?
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nevw		#38 Posted : 08 February 2008 00:02:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />That´s right...! But i was dissapointed by using CS and did return back CS to hobbystore. No more CS for me...! [:(!] Goofy Why, What went wrong with the CS, Goofy? He did not like the Grey Colour as it did not match his clothes
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dntower85		#39 Posted : 08 February 2008 00:09:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA		Can DCC and MM be run on the same track same time? (possibly rectifing the AC Current to the DCC Board)I can't see how it could, Can the Uhlenbrock run both formats at the same time on different tracks?
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DaleSchultz		#40 Posted : 08 February 2008 00:13:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 3,997		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by dntower85 <br />Can DCC and MM be run on the same track same time? (possibly rectifing the AC Current to the DCC Board)I can't see how it could, Can the Uhlenbrock run both formats at the same time on different tracks? Darrin, that is exactly what the Intellibox does. It runs DCC and MM (and also Selectrix) at the same time and on the same track ! I run Märklin decoders and ESU DCC decoders on the same track at the same time. Been doing that for over 10 years.
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dntower85		#41 Posted : 08 February 2008 00:27:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA		thanks Dale, are there other brands of DCC decoders that will work? Come on IB 2009, With the fall of marklin USA it sounds like the only way to go for me.
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DaleSchultz		#42 Posted : 08 February 2008 00:36:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 3,997		I believe any DCC decoder will work.
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mmervine		#43 Posted : 08 February 2008 23:19:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,893 Location: Keene, NH		Lutz: Yes, I agree. I have ordered an ECoS as I my TGV models are not 3 rail (I actually like the CS better w/o the motorized knobs!) and I need DCC capability. I was thinking more for my club as we have a keyboard and some ESU mobile controls. Looks like all of the Uhlenbrock Loconet devices will still work. I would like to add that I don't understand all of the debate about which system is the best. In the past there were no choices. Now we will have four systems to choose from and each person can choose the one that they like best. I think it is great that we have so many choices! r/mark
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xxup		#44 Posted : 09 February 2008 01:05:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,583 Location: Australia		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine <br />.... In the past there were no choices. Now we will have four systems to choose from and each person can choose the one that they like best. I think it is great that we have so many choices!r/mark Yes!
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steventrain		#45 Posted : 09 February 2008 09:35:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		It look very good, It said 2009 mean next year.
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nevw		#46 Posted : 09 February 2008 13:03:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		No stephen it means 2010. every one is a year late at least
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steventrain		#47 Posted : 09 February 2008 22:48:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		How did you know, Nev?
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xxup		#48 Posted : 10 February 2008 00:44:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,583 Location: Australia		I guess that Nev is trying to say that nothing is delivered on time these days.. So if they say 2009, then it is most likely to arrive in 2010.
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mz_1414		#49 Posted : 10 February 2008 01:16:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 413 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by xxup <br />I guess that Nev is trying to say that nothing is delivered on time these days.. So if they say 2009, then it is most likely to arrive in 2010. And then it will be to old, and we will look forward IB III
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bmcrae		#50 Posted : 15 October 2008 09:02:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 970 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC		Just curious to see if there has been any more talk about the progress of IB2?
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