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I collect HO scale European wine wagons with over 300 in my collection. About 80 of them are Marklin. I will share information and photos with anyone who is interested. I have attached a few photos as a sample. This topic welcomes our friends from the Italian Marklin forum who share our interest in wine wagons. Click on http://www.marklinfan.co.../topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1461 to see some great historical photos plus photos of models and layouts. This topic also recognises the "Wine Car" topic that ran on the Marklin users forum between 2006-2007. Check it out at https://www.marklin-user...postst4818_Wine-Car.aspxTip: View topic using Google Chrome browser instead of Microsoft Internet Explorer Edited by user 17 August 2013 23:26:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: winetrains  I collect HO scale European wine wagons with over 300 in my collection. About 80 of them are Marklin. I will share information and photos with anyone who is interested. I have attached a few photos as an example. Hi winetrains, I find the wine wagons very interesting, thanks for sharing. However I would like to find for what purpose these wagons were used? I can only guess there were a number of possible uses. 1. Shipment of fully vintaged product to wine merchants for bottling and distribution. 2. Shipment of raw product to other vignerons for further matuaration. 3. Shipment of product (in whatever stage) to food manufacturing plants. (Example? the 48008 above is a condiments firm, who make food dressings). Is that all? regards Kimball |
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Hello winetrains, and welcome to the forum ^^ ! Very interesting wagons I never even knew Märklin made ... any dates and model numbers for the first two ? Have a few 4510 Märklin Bordeaux cask wagons here ... but am now looking for the VB version below : Any info on these ? Yum  Yumgui attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Yumgui Very interesting wagons I never even knew Märklin made ... any dates and model numbers for the first two ? Hi Yum, The second one (Swiss) comes from 48809 (2006). Some Infos about the VB cars can be found here: http://www.lestrainsdegu...hp?mrq=VB&ser=WMABFERegards Markus
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Originally Posted by: winetrains I collect HO scale European wine wagons with over 300 in my collection. About 80 of them are Marklin. I will share information and photos with anyone who is interested. I have attached a few photos as an example. Hi winetrains, I find the wine wagons very interesting, thanks for sharing. However I would like to find for what purpose these wagons were used? I can only guess there were a number of possible uses. 1. Shipment of fully vintaged product to wine merchants for bottling and distribution. 2. Shipment of raw product to other vignerons for further matuaration. 3. Shipment of product (in whatever stage) to food manufacturing plants. (Example? the 48008 above is a condiments firm, who make food dressings). Is that all? regards Kimball Kimball, Thankyou for interest. Check out the links below for photos of real wine wagons. http://www.rail-pictures...or-transporting-7536.jpghttp://www.rail.lu/champagnemercierwagons.htmlRegards, David winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Originally Posted by: Yumgui Hello winetrains, and welcome to the forum ^^ ! Very interesting wagons I never even knew Märklin made ... any dates and model numbers for the first two ? Have a few 4510 Märklin Bordeaux cask wagons here ... but am now looking for the VB version below : Any info on these ? Yum Hello Yum, I believe your VB wagon is a Vollon & Brown VB 36, French and released between 1948-1955. My collection contains 6 VB wagons (I love them) and I have attached their photos below. Regards, David winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Originally Posted by: Yumgui Hello winetrains, and welcome to the forum ^^ ! Very interesting wagons I never even knew Märklin made ... any dates and model numbers for the first two ? Have a few 4510 Märklin Bordeaux cask wagons here ... but am now looking for the VB version below : Any info on these ? Yum Yum, The first Marklin wine wagon (old single barrel) was part of a Marklin starter train set that included steam engine, wagons, track, transformer and controller. I had to buy the whole set on eBay just to get the wine wagon. It does not have a number. If you like old wine wagons, I have some very rare metal Electrotren wagons and have attached their photos below. They were made between 1957-1960. Regards, David winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Hi Markus, Thanks for the explanation, that makes sense. I was quite taken with your link to the Dujardin cars, because I too purchased an era III version from Liliput, and think it is a fine model. regards Kimball |
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Hi,
Davids Tillig 501167 bogie tanker is interesting too, the name SGTL is well known in France for transporting foodstuffs.
I managed to bash up a free lance 4 wheel version of an SGTL tank, using a Fleishmann cast underframe, and a Thomas the Tank Engine tanker body.
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There is currently one of the VB bi-foudres on sale on e-Bay at 79 Euros.
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Welcome to the Forum Winetrains!!
I really like the "Veuve" champagne car. Veuve is one of my favorite "less expensive" champagnes. Is that particular car a limited production run? Any idea what year(s) it was produced??
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Originally Posted by: Nielsenr Welcome to the Forum Winetrains!!
I really like the "Veuve" champagne car. Veuve is one of my favorite "less expensive" champagnes. Is that particular car a limited production run? Any idea what year(s) it was produced??
Robert Robert, I found a Marklin Belgian product PDF file (463 pages) on Google that indicates it was manufactured in 1985. The link to the file is http://users.skynet.be/h...elgische%20producten.pdf I have attached photos of more Marklin champagne wagons below. winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Thanks winetrains for the explanation on that first Märklin wagon (first example I've seen of a Märklin item with no number) ... I will now need to search for it ! Also, great collection of Electrotren boxcars, like the Martini wagons especially ... Just when you think that collecting is over (you have EVERYTHING ...) ... well no, it starts all over again ;P Yum  PS: VB = Vollon & "Brun" ... btw Edited by user 27 March 2013 06:59:18(UTC)
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Thanks Winetrains, I'll check that link out ...
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Originally Posted by: Yumgui Hello winetrains, and welcome to the forum ^^ ! Very interesting wagons I never even knew Märklin made ... any dates and model numbers for the first two ? Have a few 4510 Märklin Bordeaux cask wagons here ... but am now looking for the VB version below : Any info on these ? Yum Yum, A couple more pictures of Marklin wine wagons you may not have seen. Marklin made them especially for KaDeWe, a large department store in Berlin. In relation to the box wagon, I was informed that only 400 of them were made between 1990-2000. I have HO scale wine wagons from ACME, Au Pullman, BLZ, Brawa, Electrotren, Fleischmann, Ibertren, JEP, JL, Josfel, Jouef, Liliput, Lima, L.S.Models, Makette, Marklin, Piko, Pocher, Prefo, Rivarossi, Roco, Sachsenmodelle, Schicht, Tillig, Trix and VB. Please let me know (or anyone else) if you want to see some pictures from any of these manufacturers. They are all on Flickr and Forum members can email me at TopFluc@gmail.com for instructions on how to view them. Regards, David winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Originally Posted by: biedmatt Great thread! Thankyou Biedmatt, I have posted below a photo of a Marklin wine wagon that has sliding doors and wooden barrels inside that contained bulk wine. It is a Swiss wagon made between 2000-2001. Regards, David winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Thankyou for the photo Unholz, it is great to see the vintage wagons and how well the HO wagons are manufactured to model them. I have 20 different Swiss (SBB-CFF) HO scale wine wagons and particularly fancy the Brawa wagon whose photo I have posted below. Regards, David winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Thanks David, Great collection, excellent VB references, very informative ... ! Have a "JRA Au Pullman" 12V AC loco somewhere, forgot that he also made a wine car ... this store is still one of my suppliers and now that you mention it they still keep a few of these old wagons on show for sentimental reasons, they are NOT for sale however ;/ ...;) Also, collecting JEP in O scale, I'd love to see those ... Keep the photos coming please ^^ Guillaume |
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Originally Posted by: Yumgui Thanks David, Great collection, excellent VB references, very informative ... ! Have a "JRA Au Pullman" 12V AC loco somewhere, forgot that he also made a wine car ... this store is still one of my suppliers and now that you mention it they still keep a few of these old wagons on show for sentimental reasons, they are NOT for sale however ;/ ...;) Also, collecting JEP in O scale, I'd love to see those ... Keep the photos coming please ^^ Guillaume Thankyou Guillaume, Below are photos of my Au Pullman HO scale wine wagon collection. I really like the character of these wagons. Regards, David winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Wow! Trop fort! No ref numbers ? I'll try and get some info from the store ... or elsewhere ^^ Y  PS: For sure there is a romantic feel to old cask wagons compared to modern tank or "citerne" wagons ... makes one think that somewhere along the way we went from quality to quantity ... but then again, they do manage to make very good wine in large metal tanks today, so why not transport them the same way ? A question of perspective I guess ... |
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Originally Posted by: winetrains Originally Posted by: Yumgui Thanks David, Great collection, excellent VB references, very informative ... ! Have a "JRA Au Pullman" 12V AC loco somewhere, forgot that he also made a wine car ... this store is still one of my suppliers and now that you mention it they still keep a few of these old wagons on show for sentimental reasons, they are NOT for sale however ;/ ...;) Also, collecting JEP in O scale, I'd love to see those ... Keep the photos coming please ^^ Guillaume Thankyou Guillaume, Below are photos of my Au Pullman HO scale wine wagon collection. I really like the character of these wagons. Regards, David Guillaume, I only have one JEP wagon, its photo is below. It is HO scale and made of metal. Regards, David winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Is noted David, thanks ... Will be looking for that one too now ^^ PS: Jeez, can't post fast enough now ... hah |
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Brilliant thread and beautiful collection David, I am only "upset" with you about one thing: You have been a member since 2011 and only show us this great stuff now!  Thanks for sharing it and welcome to the discussion!  I am very curious about wine cars in Italy. Do you have anything in your collection from Italy, or know of databases with images of Italian prototypes? I am also interested in Kimball's questions wrt to wine transport uses and production. The link you posted was interesting and useful http://www.eisenbahn-und...inkesselwagenpartial.htmI would really like to see if anyone has modeled dioramas/layouts with train cars being loaded on a winery siding. Hoping to model some Italian vineyards with a winery and perhaps have a winery doing just that. Thanks again, Mark |
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Kimball, Would love to see the results of this kit-bash ... - Mark Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Hi,
Davids Tillig 501167 bogie tanker is interesting too, the name SGTL is well known in France for transporting foodstuffs.
I managed to bash up a free lance 4 wheel version of an SGTL tank, using a Fleishmann cast underframe, and a Thomas the Tank Engine tanker body.
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Originally Posted by: Mark5 Kimball, Would love to see the results of this kit-bash ... - Mark Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Hi,
Davids Tillig 501167 bogie tanker is interesting too, the name SGTL is well known in France for transporting foodstuffs.
I managed to bash up a free lance 4 wheel version of an SGTL tank, using a Fleishmann cast underframe, and a Thomas the Tank Engine tanker body.
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Kimball Hi Mark, Yes, I have been enjoying this thread immensely. This hobby can be compressed readily into quite specific themes. It is a matter of thinking beyond the square as they say. I will take photos of the SGTL tanker in the next few days. regards Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: Mark5 Brilliant thread and beautiful collection David, I am only "upset" with you about one thing: You have been a member since 2011 and only show us this great stuff now! Thanks for sharing it and welcome to the discussion! I am very curious about wine cars in Italy. Do you have anything in your collection from Italy, or know of databases with images of Italian prototypes? I am also interested in Kimball's questions wrt to wine transport uses and production. The link you posted was interesting and useful http://www.eisenbahn-und...inkesselwagenpartial.htmI would really like to see if anyone has modeled dioramas/layouts with train cars being loaded on a winery siding. Hoping to model some Italian vineyards with a winery and perhaps have a winery doing just that. Thanks again, Mark Thankyou Mark, There were many reasons why I didn't share earlier, some selfish. One gets wiser as one gets older. I find wine wagons fascinating, I know they are popular, and was surprised I couldn't find a user group to discuss and enjoy them. Now we have that group. I have posted below photos of my Italian wine wagons. Enjoy. The Pocher wagons are special, the first one made between 1954-1956, the next two have slightly different coloring and were made in the 1960s. Difficult to find. The ACME wagons were manufactured in 2011 (I received them last week). winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Originally Posted by: Mark5 Kimball, Would love to see the results of this kit-bash ... - Mark Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Hi,
Davids Tillig 501167 bogie tanker is interesting too, the name SGTL is well known in France for transporting foodstuffs.
I managed to bash up a free lance 4 wheel version of an SGTL tank, using a Fleishmann cast underframe, and a Thomas the Tank Engine tanker body.
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Kimball Hi Mark, Yes, I have been enjoying this thread immensely. This hobby can be compressed readily into quite specific themes. It is a matter of thinking beyond the square as they say. I will take photos of the SGTL tanker in the next few days. regards Kimball Hi Mark and Kimball, Thankyou for your support and encouragment. I have 7 SGTL HO scale wine wagons made by Electrotren (2), REE (4) and Tillig (1). Please let me know if you would like me to post photos of any of them. Regards, David
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Originally Posted by: Alberto Pedrini Hi Alberto, Many thanks for posting the link. They are all beautiful illustrations, both prototype and models. I will be doing a little modification to build a few wine wagons based on those pictures. regards Kimball |
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Hi David and all, David, I hope you don't mind my adding a couple of my own pictures. On my Altkloster layout, I have 3 wine wagons, of different type. The first is from Marklin freight set 48801 (2002/3). I staged the picture using the Bellingrodt picture from Wuppertal in 1956 (thanks Alberto for that terrific link). Here the wine is being loaded into smaller barrels for distribution to wine merchants around the town of Altkloster.  regards Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: Alberto Pedrini Thankyou Alberto, I especially love your historical photos and have edited the beginning of this thread to reference your Italian forum. To celebrate, I have posted below a photo of one of my favourite wine wagons, a rare Josfel wagon comprising 3 brown barrels on a flat tray with two white longitudinal ties. Not a Marklin wagon, but one to be admired. winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Hi David and all, David, I hope you don't mind my adding a couple of my own pictures. On my Altkloster layout, I have 3 wine wagons, of different type. The first is from Marklin freight set 48801 (2002/3). I staged the picture using the Bellingrodt picture from Wuppertal in 1956 (thanks Alberto for that terrific link). Here the wine is being loaded into smaller barrels for distribution to wine merchants around the town of Altkloster. regards Kimball Thankyou Kimball, we can never have too many photos. I have a Piko version of your wagon (pictured below) but I like your Marklin version better. On a sad note, I have included a photo of my Honda Euro Accord that was crushed by a blue Commodore two weeks ago in a quiet Melbourne residential street. I pick up my new car tomorrow. Regards, David winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Hi David, Very sorry to see your car like that, I can only be glad that no one was hurt. I have not had anything like that since 1964, when my first Holden FJ was hit sideways and pushed off the road by an old Customline. The pie, milk and Coke lying on the front seat looked like coffee and stew on the dashboard. Here is another photo of the Wekawe van, and also one of the SGTL tanker which I bashed from a 1960s Fleischmann cast under-frame, and a Thomas the Tank Engine body. Suitably redecorated.  SGTL tanker  regards Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: Yumgui Wow! Trop fort! No ref numbers ? I'll try and get some info from the store ... or elsewhere ^^ Y PS: For sure there is a romantic feel to old cask wagons compared to modern tank or "citerne" wagons ... makes one think that somewhere along the way we went from quality to quantity ... but then again, they do manage to make very good wine in large metal tanks today, so why not transport them the same way ? A question of perspective I guess ... Yum, I look forward to starting a debate here, but I will argue that Electrotren has made the best HO scale wooden barrel wine wagons. The one pictured below is one of the hardest to acquire and I am fortunate enough to have two in mint condition. My collection contains 18 different Electrotren HO scale wooden double barrel wine wagons. Happy to show more photos on request. Regards, David winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Here's a link to a HO model made by the Swiss small series manufacturer Modellbaustudio Born: http://www.messingers.ch...es/Bor_P_91063_SBB_2.JPGI believe that the prototype of this model also had barrels. However, they didn't travel openly but "undercover".
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I will argue that Electrotren has made the best HO scale wooden barrel wine wagons. The one pictured below is one of the hardest to acquire and I am fortunate enough to have two in mint condition. My collection contains 18 different Electrotren HO scale wooden double barrel wine wagons. Happy to show more photos on request. Regards, David
Hi David, After seeing what is a small part of your collection, I too am tempted to get at least a couple of wood barrel tankers. The Electrotren tank looks very interesting, but I also like the Au Pullman ones (nice variety). As well I like the Acme van versions, a pity they can't include the inside barrels. I would like to see all your collection, so will send an email so I can see the Flickr set. regards Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Here's a link to a HO model made by the Swiss small series manufacturer Modellbaustudio Born: http://www.messingers.ch...es/Bor_P_91063_SBB_2.JPGI believe that the prototype of this model also had barrels. However, they didn't travel openly but "undercover". Thankyou Unholz. A very nice wagon. Sachsenmodelle also made a "TH Fuog" Swiss wine wagon and I have posted its photo below. Regards, David winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Originally Posted by: winetrains
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I will argue that Electrotren has made the best HO scale wooden barrel wine wagons. The one pictured below is one of the hardest to acquire and I am fortunate enough to have two in mint condition. My collection contains 18 different Electrotren HO scale wooden double barrel wine wagons. Happy to show more photos on request. Regards, David
Hi David, After seeing what is a small part of your collection, I too am tempted to get at least a couple of wood barrel tankers. The Electrotren tank looks very interesting, but I also like the Au Pullman ones (nice variety). As well I like the Acme van versions, a pity they can't include the inside barrels. I would like to see all your collection, so will send an email so I can see the Flickr set. regards Kimball Kimball, each of the 6 ACME box wagons has two wooden barrels inside, unfortunately they do not show up in the photos. There are currently 316 photos of my collection on Flickr so please enjoy. One of my rarest and favourite Electrotren wagons is photographed below. Regards, David winetrains attached the following image(s):
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Suddenly, I've gotten very thirsty. The size of these tankers! For some strange reason I was expecting to see just a whole slew of the collector's variations on the "Bordeaux" model #308.
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Originally Posted by: BR01097
Suddenly, I've gotten very thirsty. The size of these tankers! For some strange reason I was expecting to see just a whole slew of the collector's variations on the "Bordeaux" model #308.
I am about to make you even more thirsty. Later today I will create a new HO topic "Modelling in a wine cellar" which will have photos of my layout running behind and through racks of delicious Australian wines. When viewing, I highly recommend a glass of Shiraz in hand.
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Originally Posted by: winetrains Yum, I look forward to starting a debate here, but I will argue that Electrotren has made the best HO scale wooden barrel wine wagons. Hah, you've got me searching now for these great wagons on eBay ... shhh, or my wife will kill me ^^ ;P Great stuff here ! Y lol, lol, lol PS: Btw, dunno how that car managed to get on top of yours, but that guy sure is a bad driver ... hmmm ^^ PS2: Uhm, smileys removed for greater speed ... ;) Edited by user 01 April 2013 12:37:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Yumgui Originally Posted by: winetrains Yum, I look forward to starting a debate here, but I will argue that Electrotren has made the best HO scale wooden barrel wine wagons. Hah, you've got me searching now for these great wagons on eBay ... shhh, or my wife will kill me ^^ ;P Great stuff here ! Y  PS: Btw, dunno how that car managed to get on top of yours, but that guy sure is a bad driver ... hmmm ^^ The driver has a P-Plate on his windscreen which indicates that he has had his licence for less than 12-months. He hit my car just behind my rear wheel and his front left tyre then rode up my rear wheel. Must have been going like a rocket. Are you able to remove the three moving smiley faces Yum? Each runs a script in the browser and makes the forum page take much longer to load. Regards, David
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Winetrains,
welcome to the forum
One gets a bit bored with beer and banana carriages, good subject.
John
John, more Marklin wine wagon photos below to stop you getting bored. Regards, David Correction....this is 4482.047; not 4482.027 (David) Edited by user 26 May 2013 09:36:01(UTC)
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