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Following on from the Viessmann Commander at https://www.marklin-user...ault.aspx?g=posts&t=8346Originally posted by David Dewar At which point if I see a mega start set that I like because of the locos in the set then I will buy and get my new CS almost free. DavidThat is why the 29840 has caught my eye. I did a quick search after seeing a set for sale on eBay and came up with the following figures: toottoot.co.nz NZ1646 LokShop EU801 @.5578 = NZ1436 AJC Kids US1229 @.8044 = NZ1528 fit991 (eBay) US1099 @.8044 = NZ1366 Interesting price comparisons. Freight would be extra of course and I suspect there could be "ghost bidders" for the eBay item to build the price up. As I have said previously, if (when) I opt for as CS then I would more than likely go for this set as I am in to Dampfloks. For piece of mind and less hassle I would also order from Dion at toottoot being the local guy, ensuring any warranty / updates / issues are handled promptly. Just my thoughts, Regards Tony edit: Have to sell the C Track though - I'm going K. |
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom
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You may ask for dealer to removed the C-tracks from set for less price. |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand
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Hi Tony, not sure if fit99 will accept paypal though. I did ask him that question, but he never gave me the courtesy of a reply.
I think your US - NZ exchange rate is a bit optimistic too, the current rate is $NZ1 = $US0.75, euro is 0.52
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Macfire <br />
That is why the 29840 has caught my eye.
LokShop EU801 @.5578 = NZ1436
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Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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Exchange rates were pulled off the BNZ site when I was writing up the thread. Prices quoted (and I know there is a difference with the VAT) were just the ones that were listed. And no, Fit991 does not accept Paypal.
Also Steven, A good point regarding the removal of the C Track and I had mentioned it to Dion in passing. If I order the set, he may be expecting me to ask just that!!
Piece of mind in NZ may come at a cost of a couple of hundred dollars but I could spent more than that if problems arose and I had to keep sending the unit back overseas. Call it insurance.. Call me cautious.. |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand
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Tony, you probably used the BNZ Cash Buy rate (which is what they use when buy US$ off you), instead of the BNZ Cash Sell rate (what they sell US$ to you as).
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I went CS with the 29851. A very nice set for modern SBB. I had already Re 6/6 and 460 but these are mfX and sound equipped. I am sending in my CS for update here in the US.  |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Hi Tony, not sure if fit99 will accept paypal though. I did ask him that question, but he never gave me the courtesy of a reply. You should all be aware that "fit991" is no authorized Märklin dealer; (especially) his sale activities of new Märklin products will not be warranted by Märklin!!!  Got a chance to "investigate" a bit into the mentioned new CS Mega starter set #29840 at one of my local dealers lately - it's just great!!! (I was immediately inspired to upgrade my BR85 to mfx Sound! [:p]).
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by HemmerichYou should all be aware that "fit991" is no authorized Märklin dealer; (especially) his sale activities of new Märklin products will not be warranted by Märklin!!!  I am confused. Isn't the warranty covering the product for one year independently from where you buy? Or is it tied ONLY to buying from authorized dealers? If so.. all our purchases on e-bay are not covered. And I know I have been buying a lot there  Who are the autorized dealers selling on e-bay? Btw, fit991 does not mention anythingg about warranties in his description (as much as I can see) and his reviews seem positive enough. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by MarioFabro <br />I went CS with the 29851. A very nice set for modern SBB. I had already Re 6/6 and 460 but these are mfX and sound equipped. I am sending in my CS for update here in the US. I also got my CS with the 29851 set. Before that I got my MS with the 29850 set, so I have also got 2 each Re6/6 and 460. Now I got my CS back from the update. You will really enjoy it a lot more with the both new and improved features. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by MarioFabro I am confused. Isn't the warranty covering the product for one year independently from where you buy? Or is it tied ONLY to buying from authorized dealers? Yes! Just take a close(r) look at any of your warranty cards. It clearly states "This warranty applies to Märklin assortment products and spare parts that have been purchased from any of our worldwide authorized Märklin dealers". Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:If so.. all our purchases on e-bay are not covered. And I know I have been buying a lot there  Not neccessarily. As stated above, if it's an authorized dealer - which can be easily identified at or maybe even before time of purchase - there is no problem; Märklin will accept warranty claims. Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Who are the autorized dealers selling on e-bay? Simply ask the seller of NEW stuff this question!  Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Btw, fit991 does not mention anything about warranties in his description. Sure he won't (for good reasons). Not only I have been watching the selling activities of this dealer for quite some time and there were/are some interesting findings - but these not necessarily for the "public". Just keep in mind that he gets his new stuff from specific (authorized) dealers who urgently need some "discount points" and that he resells it for them. So you might understand if/why you might ask unsuccessful for a proper Märklin warranty there - but just try it and see how he responds.  BTW: Märklin will be much more stringent on this now and in future. Surely he's only one of a number of second traders in this "grey market", but he's well known not only to Märklin. 
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There does seem a difference here. I thought most countries would be the same as the UK. If goods are faulty then the retailer has to refund or replace (the customers choice) Marklin has no part in this although they can be used if that is what the customer wants. The retailer has a legal liability Marklin has none as they only supply to the trade. I presume an exception would be if you bought directly from the Marklin shop. I dont buy from ebay and if Marklin dealers are dumping there stuff there then I suppose they want to make money any way they can.
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand
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Thanks for the heads up, Lutz. I've also purchased from station500, johnvandamme, and fettsau off ebay. I take it they are all Marklin dealers?
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Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway
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Hi friends  The 29840 set is already ordered from my dealer   1 question do : Where can I find a list of authorized Märklin dealers  [:I] |
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Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,464 Location: Scotland
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Pal. I think the best way to find a good dealer is through this forum where members have purchased from dealers previously.
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Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway
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Hi David, Yes, someone has a authorized dealer on eBay or at least online  |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by MarioFabro<br />I went CS with the 29851. A very nice set for modern SBB. I had already Re 6/6 and 460 but these are mfX and sound equipped. I am sending in my CS for update here in the US.  This is the set I started with but whan I got it there was only the MS. Magnificent set though. Got the CS about 5 months later when they became available. Nev |
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Joined: 23/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,497 Location: Denmark
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nevw, I don't fully understand: Did you order the 29851 set and received it with a MS in lack of a CS due to unavailability at the time? Then later received the CS when it came available. or Did you receive the 29850 set with the MS in the first place? The only difference between the two sets are the MS in the 850 and CS in the 851 set. Just being curious  |
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Benny, When I got the Set the CS had not been released so came with the MS. Purchased the CS when it became available. also then the difference between the 850 and 851 was that the 850 was 230 V and the 851 110 V N |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by HemmerichSure he won't (for good reasons). Not only I have been watching the selling activities of this dealer for quite some time and there were/are some interesting findings - but these not necessarily for the "public". Just keep in mind that he gets his new stuff from specific (authorized) dealers who urgently need some "discount points" and that he resells it for them. So you might understand if/why you might ask unsuccessful for a proper Märklin warranty there - but just try it and see how he responds.  BTW: Märklin will be much more stringent on this now and in future. Surely he's only one of a number of second traders in this "grey market", but he's well known not only to Märklin.  I still fail to see what's wrong with this (apart from the warranty issue). Surely there is no "false advertisement" from his auctions. Prices are competitive. Why would M go after him? Unless he falsely claims to be a dealer (which is not, at least on the auctions I have seen). I usually do not "expect" warranty from e-bay, since most of the times I buy used items.. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by MarioFabro <br />I usually do not "expect" warranty from e-bay, since most of the times I buy used items..
If the eBay seller is selling new unused items, it is fair and reasonable to expect that they are covered by warranty.
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Joined: 16/10/2005(UTC) Posts: 382 Location: Planet Earth (mostly)
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:You should all be aware that "fit991" is no authorized Märklin dealer; (especially) his sale activities of new Märklin products will not be warranted by Märklin!!!  What I don't understand is: where do unauthorized sellers get their stuff from? From the same channels as authorized dealers? René - puzzled - |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand
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René, see Lutz's answer to this in his post elsewhere in this thread:- "Just keep in mind that he gets his new stuff from specific (authorized) dealers who urgently need some "discount points" and that he resells it for them. So you might understand if/why you might ask unsuccessful for a proper Märklin warranty there - but just try it and see how he responds. "
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:René, see Lutz's answer to this in his post elsewhere in this thread:- "Just keep in mind that he gets his new stuff from specific (authorized) dealers who urgently need some "discount points" and that he resells it for them. Thanks. Thats makes sense. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Hemmerich<br /> You should all be aware that "fit991" is no authorized Märklin dealer; (especially) his sale activities of new Märklin products will not be warranted by Märklin!!!  Yeah, Thanks for the waring.  |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz I take it they are all Marklin dealers? If your question should read "authorized Märklin dealers" - No, for sure not all of them (if even any)!  You can easily verify this by comparing their shop addresses with the authorized dealer list on the Märklin web.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by MarioFabro I still fail to see what's wrong with this (apart from the warranty issue). You'd see it when you know the contracts between authorized dealers and Märklin. Just talk to your favorite authorized dealer next time you meet him.  PS: My comments relate ONLY to NEW products (since the thread was about this - i.e. #29840).
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Anyone know the running number of the BR 85? |
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Quote:quote:Originally posted by Macfire <br />[size=2]Anyone know the running number of the BR 85?
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And the BR55 has road #5415 (and even best - "BD Stuttgart"! [:p]). Attached two pics of those fine locos, taken back at the Nürnberg toy fair (the sound of the BR85 is really very nice; that of the BR55 the same as with model #37540). 
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Hi, Lutz.
Is the digital sounds same as 37540 BR55? |
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Thanks Lutz Nice pics. Set has been upgrade to must have - now to have a chat with FD |
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Hi  Anybody know if it is possible to mount Telex on the Br. 85 with the decoder inside  Is there a AUX 2  |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by pa-paulsAnybody know if it is possible to mount Telex on the Br. 85 with the decoder inside  Hi Pål, Yes. the possibility to mount a telex there has actually nothing to do with the decoder. Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Is there a AUX 2  YES! Every mfx decoder has it. Just take a "sharp" look at the mtc pcb of the BR85 (you'd be surprised where this thing all fits - more next week). (  PS: Sorry - I forgot to include the picture; here it is:  
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />
Got a chance to "investigate" a bit into the mentioned new CS Mega starter set #29840 at one of my local dealers lately - it's just great!!! (I was immediately inspired to upgrade my BR85 to mfx Sound! [:p]).
Lutz, I have the BR85-009 mfx/no sound. Could that also be updated  Is is just a matter of replacing the decoder or is it a separate sound module  Could you state the required part no. ('s.), please  |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by CaplinI have the BR85-009 mfx/no sound. Could that also be updated  IMHO YES!  Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Is is just a matter of replacing the decoder or is it a separate sound module  The mtc pcb (#611868) mounted in model #37096 is only suitable for non-sound decoders; you'll need the mtc pcb (#113566) of #29840. See the following comparison picture (left="old", right="new" pcb).  When mounted and equipped with a sound decoder, the required space is about 37mm (which you have in that loco); another advantage of this new mtc pcb is that you don't always need a separate pcb clip holder (#405040).  Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Could you state the required part no. ('s.), please  mtc pcb #113556, decoder #113555 (or ESU #62499) and loudspeaker #113566. Have fun!    PS: I forgot to mention that you also need the sound capsule #103610 and hood #103611 for the loudspeaker. 
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Thank you, Lutz for your time spend on this detailed answer. [^]
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain Is the digital sounds same as 37540 BR55? Sorry Stephen, I had somehow overlooked your question. [:I] The sounds itself are basically the same, but selection and function key assignment of the sounds are different from f5 on. #37540 vs. #29840: f0: headlights - headlights f1: smoker - smoker (AUX1) f2: driving sound - driving sound f3: whistle - whistle f4: ABD - ABD f5: shunting whistle - coal shuffling f6: bell - air pump/compressor f7: air pump/compressor - steam pressure release f8: steam pressure release - break squealing disable
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:pa-pauls Posted - 2007/11/23 : 00:01:23 Anybody know if it is possible to mount Telex on the Br. 85 with the decoder inside I have an old 3309, in which I have installed the 60931 mfx sound decoder set. So it should also be possible to go the other way around. f1 = smoke generator f2 = telex front and rear  One small problem, though. If the smoke generator is on, the Telex works only intermittently. Not enough power. I will have to install a small relay for the smoke generator. |
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Hello Lutz  As always you amaze me with your detailed answer's my friend [:I] Very very nice, I'll look forward to next week then Sir [:p][:p] |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Hemmerich<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Hi Tony, not sure if fit99 will accept paypal though. I did ask him that question, but he never gave me the courtesy of a reply. You should all be aware that "fit991" is no authorized Märklin dealer; (especially) his sale activities of new Märklin products will not be warranted by Märklin!!!  Got a chance to "investigate" a bit into the mentioned new CS Mega starter set #29840 at one of my local dealers lately - it's just great!!! (I was immediately inspired to upgrade my BR85 to mfx Sound! [:p]). Hello, fit991 is one of the most offensive sellers I have encountered on eBay (and I have bought a lot from German eBay sellers). I bought a lot of Märklin items for a total of nearly €1000 from him 1½ year ago or so including a 7226 smoke unit. The parcel came without problems but the smoke unit was not included. I emailed him about this (in a polite tone) but he answered by calling me a fraud for trying to get an extra smoke unit out of him. After a couple of emails back and forth I gave him a neutral feedback for the smoke unit and he retaliated by giving me a neutral as well. Looking through his feedback at the time, I could see that I was lucky. Normally he retaliates to any negative or neutral feedback with negative and calls the complainant a fraud in the feedback comment. Maybe I got off cheap because I reminded him that I still had around ten other purchases from him that I could mark as negative if he retaliated to harshly  Well, to conclude - stay away from this arrogant guy. /Jacob
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Hemmerich<br /> You should all be aware that "fit991" is no authorized Märklin dealer; (especially) his sale activities of new Märklin products will not be warranted by Märklin!!!  Sorry, but I fail to understand the basic logic behind this In my opinion it should be like this: 1. Maerklin lives off its customers, so 'Customer First' should be a given. 2. 'Warranty' is supposed to replace or repair an item that has been built by the manufacturer with a fault or defect, while the customer has paid a fully working item. It is only normal that the manufacturer must make sure the customer gets what he pays for - an item that works as promised - at least for a minimum period. I think nobody would expect warranty covering a six year old loco... 3. Maerklin only sells to authorized dealers, because that is what they chose to do to better suit their business model. It has nothing to do with their ethical obligation to make sure a customer receives a new product in working condition. 4. As an inevitable consequence of No 3 N O B O D Y can ever buy a new Maerklin product that is not being sold through an authorized dealer, because such products simply cannot exist, because Maerklin does not sell to anybody who is not an authorized dealer. Therefore all faulty new items must be covered by Maerklin's warranty - they were made in the Maerklin factory (or a factory authorized by Maerklin) and sold through an authorized dealer. If another dealer was involved further down this chain or not cannot have any consequence for the rights of the customer. So WHY should a new product made by Maerklin not be covered by the Maerklin factory warranty? And even more importantly, why would Maerklin actually want to risk pissing off a customer by not making sure a new product actually works for at least a year or two??? A nice non-Maerklin example: I bought a BRAWA KVL in the USA and brought it home to Prague. It didn't work... I sent it directly to BRAWA, I didn't even have a receipt. It was back after six days, the faulty decoder replaced. They didn't even charge the return postage and definitely asked no uestions about an authorized dealer! That is how a responsible company builds a brand and customer loyalty in today's competitive market place - not by pointing at the small print in an outdated warranty booklet... Sorry, had to say this. Maybe I am the only one who thinks that Maerklin should put its customers first, not its authorized dealers... Otherwise hoping none of my locos breaks down... Regards, Arthur
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Hi Arthur. I agree with almost all you say. Regarding warranty I dont know how this is in other countries but a warranty lies with the dealer and not the manufacturer. If you have a faulty loco it should go back to the dealer for a full refund or if you wish a replacement that works. You should certainly not have to wait until it is fixed by Marklin...you have no contract with them. As I said in another thread where do all these so called dealers who are not authorised get their supplies? You are of course correct that customers come first but at present this is not what we are getting....hopefully this will change. Have fun with your locos
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Hemmerich<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain Is the digital sounds same as 37540 BR55? Sorry Stephen, I had somehow overlooked your question. [:I] The sounds itself are basically the same, but selection and function key assignment of the sounds are different from f5 on. #37540 vs. #29840: f0: headlights - headlights f1: smoker - smoker (AUX1) f2: driving sound - driving sound f3: whistle - whistle f4: ABD - ABD f5: shunting whistle - coal shuffling f6: bell - air pump/compressor f7: air pump/compressor - steam pressure release f8: steam pressure release - break squealing disable Excellent Many Thnaks, Lutz.  |
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Quote:Originally posted by SchienenbusMy comment didn't relate to what you, me or others think how Märklin should handle their warranty but rather about what is stated in the VERY CURRENT warranty cards (part #608068, dated JUN2006). 
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Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD
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In Australia Warranty is between Customer and Manufacturer. Dealer /Reseller does not enter into the equation. Also you do nothave to buy froman "Authorised" dealer. You jusat fill in hte warranty card and send away. On Some you have to say where you brought the item.
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NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around |
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Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,464 Location: Scotland
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Nev. Must be a really old law over there. You mean that anything goes wrong you have to get in touch with somebody in China or Japan etc. The retail business cetainly has it easy...sell you something that doesnt work and tell you to send it some overseas country. Here our contract is only with the retailer who must refund for faulty goods sold. Most manufacturers enclose a waranty card but they all state that it is in addition to our legal rights.
David
PS if your new radio or computer diesnt work do you really send it to Japan.
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Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:from David
PS if your new radio or computer diesnt work do you really send it to Japan
DAvid , Very difficult to give a coherent answer. Most computers here are Branded so an Acer Computer (for Example) made where-ever is sent back to the Acer Service Centre. Same with Most computers. If you brought a "White Box" the person who sold it to you also Built it and he has the warranty burden. If you Buy Marklin the dealer will send it back to Marklin. On smaller items, there will be a service Centre that you send it to. In hte Case of VOlvos again the warranty is with Volvo, the dealer is only a handy service centre. If the problem is disputed you have to go to Volvo. SO in any deal the seller has no part to play in warranty. PS: you also have to pay postage to get it to the service centre |
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around |
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Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal
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Yeah, a bit awkward warranty dealing in Australia. Here, anywhere in Europe (actually I'm currently stuck in a Rio hotel room again [:(][V]) if anything goes wrong with something, you just go out and hang your seller in the closest lighting pole.
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