Just noticed that the person you're referring to as "this guy" is named hqstu, probably the same person as our New Zealand friend in this very forum? In that case, I would like to congratulate him on a rather good investment and two very beautiful models!

I don't mind the exclusive items, just that they would advertise them before the release (so people could get orders in on time). they could have a e-mail alert/news system like some other MRR companies do (Broadway Limited is one that comes to mind). all people would have to do is sign up for the e-mail news, no insider club forms needed.

and open up production numbers. the world is bigger, and while MRR is not growing that much as a percentage of population, there are more of us, so why limit to 5000 units, or whatever.

I don't think all dealers are sold out are they? Zuba-tech has this posted.....

http://www.zuba-tech.ch/...spezArtId=0&back=res

I've seen other Swiss dealers and thier sites are advertising the item as sold out.

It is very nice rare item . The price guide up to 500 Euros.

Well done Stuart! Let us have a look once you get it.

Hi Stuart,

you've all done well - just both of you enjoy your nice models!!!

Here are a few more pics of models as well as prototypes of the Ae 6/6 Cargo for those of you who just "love" this loco type as much as I do.

First the (i.e. my own) Märklin model; as said earlier, it has the same technical assembly as the previous 2007 Ae 6/6 model #37361; i.e. besides the 5-pole HLA with mfx sound decoder as well the white UIC connected between the windows and the extra shunting rails and steps.



As mentioned before as well(?), HAG has produced/offered this model too - in two different versions. First one was (almost ) exclusively offered to participants of their special journey on 02JUN, the second the "regular" one, same as the Märklin model. Normal price is 895SFr for the 3-rail sound version and 790SFr for non sound (both ESU LokSound/LokPilot, but not mfx) - a current special factory offer is 750SFr and 650SFr. Following pictures of both.





For those of you who haven't yet seen the prototype of those nice models, here as well two pictures of that one - currently still viewable in the parking lot area of the Gotthard highway restaurant near Erstfeld/Altdorf.







The Ae 6/6 Cargo locos are very present all over Switzerland and will be until the Gotthard tunnel opening. Thus two of them were also shown at the Gotthard 125 year anniversary festival during the last weekend; they were #11463 Göschenen in Erstfeld



and #11496 Stadt Wil in Biasca.





Märklin has already offered once a model of the "Göschenen" (the only one with C-Sine), but if they decide to add another Ae 6/6 Cargo in future - in case the demand for another model besides the "Erstfeld" is still very high - it could well be either the #11496 or any other, like this one here (#11447 Lausanne) which I caught with my camera just yesterday afternoon in Olten. [:p]



I could barely get enough of those, both prototypes with my camera and the fine models!!! [:p][:p][:p]

PS: A very good (in all aspects) webpage, as well about the Ae 6/6 is here (Bruno Lämmli has really done an excellent job for any Swiss train fan!!!)

http://www.lokifahrer.ch/Lokomotiven/SBB-Ae_6-6.htm

Very cool pictures, Lutz.

Hi Brian,

it was planned since long time ago; and like with our Glacier Express journey and the LBT opening earlier this year the weather was just perfect. My beloved wife even agreed that we would stay there until Monday, which gave us the great opportunity to see all those wonderful exhibition locos depart back to their home destinations and many more "Swiss train surprises". A little impression of that here (although it should belong to another forum section):

The newly refurbished Ae 6/6 11402 "Uri" (Märklin has produced #11403 "Schwyz" lately, so I don't expect them to also offer this one in the near future - I'll add a group picture of those models mentioned here shortly)





and the Czech double headed special train leaving Erstfeld (about 1 hour later than planned).



It was all worth going there!!!

Hi all,

Just ran across this topic and was surprised to see this model with the cargo livery. I did not know about it. Was it in the new items and it didn't register with me (it is not on the list that Steventrain compiles)?

Where else can I find out about these special models before they are already sold out?

John

Here's the promised picture of the three Ae6/6 models #37363 "Erstfeld" (front), #39361 "Göschenen" (middle) and #37362 "Schwyz" (back).



It's proably worth mentioning that the special model #37363 was only offered and solely delivered to the (about 15) Märklin "Shop in Shop" dealers in Switzerland (i.e. approx. 60 models per dealer); this is also explicit mentioned on the serialized certificate which is supplied with every model (and where the loco boxes -should- contain the same serial number).

However, some "movement" of models occurred between certain dealers (which is fully legal and may be for example the reason why Zuba-Tech has different certificate number ranges). I even know of a very limited offer made by a German dealer earlier this year (if I recall correct he offered the model for 379€), which means that the models he got were re-imported from Switzerland - after they had been exported from Germany - explains a lot about the huge truck traffic on our roads!

Hi all,

Don't know anymore if I've posted this link before,nevertheless I think you'll like the photos of the real thing shown here on the HAG forum:

http://www.forum.hag-info.ch/viewtopic.php?t=962

Kind regards
Guus

Hi all,

So the only people who knew about this before they were on the shelves were Swiss dealers and those on their mailing lists. I have not recieved the latest Marklin Insider yet (I presume you are referring to 4/2007). While the price is prohibitive for me it is still nice to know what was made.

If anyone hears of such special items that are not announced in the general way, I would appreciate it if they let this group know.

Thanks.

Jhn

Hi Palle! I received the same message as you. Payment has been sent so now I must play the waiting game.... [:p][:p]

Alternative 1: YES, learn German (there is no reason not to try it).
Alternative 2: Find a better "translator".
Alternative 3: Convince them that posting as well the English (&French & Dutch & Italian) version(s) is not bad either.

hHi Chris,

in order to understand people's specific buying decisions you really should interview them individually (just look at the latest auction from Zuba-Tech); the 300€ I spent were apparently so far not a bad price.



IMHO it's as well their own decision; sometimes quite driven by emotions and ad hoc.



I know!



No. It was just that we didn't (yet and fully) understand what had happened. But thanks for yor pictures.



Now, that could be something interesting to investigate (customer buying behaviour) - why exactly this serial number?



That must now be a misunderstanding on your side - IMHO there was/is no need to send the loco back just because of a damaged box, neither to the dealer nor to Märklin (who would not - be able - to replace it anyways).



Correct! For this special model he'll only get a replacement box - if at all - by sending the damaged box back to Märklin.

I hope you will get everything back in fine shape, as well your next ordered model and wish you and EVERY OTHER proud owner lots of pure pleasure with it!!!

Well done, Plamek.

37363 together with my Märklin SBB Cargo Locos so far, 37345 and 37643. The 37345, Re4/4 is already a slightly rare loco. I'm looking for a 34345, it was a forerunner of the SBB Cargo look in Green/White livery. Unfortunately only aviable with Delta-propulsion. I don't collect the beginner series 36*** locos.

Received my copy of the 37363 today and I have to say I'm dissapointed by the way this particular loco has been treated.It looks like the loc has never been to Märklin.
One UIC socket is completely missing and the other broken off.The handrail on one side is loose and the pickupshoe severely damaged.
Besides the carton is damaged both by impact and a soaked outer packaging,due to very indiscriminate handling and packaging!
So this one goes straight back to the dealer.This is totally unacceptable.It almost feels like I've been cheated.There obviously has been no check at the dealer on this model.

I hope others have more luck!

Kind regards
Guus

Sorry for you, friends ... [:0][8)]

I've got a prompt answer from my dealer with a proposal I either send the locomotive back or they'll send the missing/replacement of damaged parts.

They also noted the model was checked before delivery.
Considering the apparent damage,I rather doubt whether this has been done at all with this particular model.
I'm considering their offer and will in the meantime do a proper check on the track.



The damage on the box is most probably caused by the fact it was put in a package before it was filled with protection material,leaving it rather unprotected on one side.

Anyway the dealer promptly offered help which is obviously what you'd expect,but nevertheless is commendable.

Kind regards
Guus

Hi Rajnish,

First of all welcome to this forum .I hope you'll enjoy paticipating as much as all of us do!
Sorry I don't know the partnumber,however my dealer in St.Gallen offered me to send them free of charge,or have the loc send back so that they can take care of it.

edit 18:02 26-09-2007
I've been browsing on another forum of the HAG enthusiasts and if I'm not mistaken it should be Märklin partnumber #206474(derived from a posting by a well known member of this forum )

Here it is at Märklins site:

206474
UIC-STECKDOSE 0,92 €


Kind regards
Guus

My database say #206474.

It is interesting for me to recognize that although having all three of the ever manufactured Ae 6/6 versions with this UIC connector (#39360, #37361 and now #37363), NONE of them had any damaged, broken or even missing connector or any other damaged parts, boxes, etc.; likewise ALL the other Ae6/6's which I had bought as new models (total of 14 now!).

Wish you as well good luck with your models in future!

Upsetting to hear your report Guus, as well as those of Stuart and Rajnish. I have been eagerly awaiting my 37363 to arrive. There is nothing I can do now except continue to wait for delivery and hope for the best.

(But in the back of my mind I can't help but start to plan for something less than 'best'...... [V])

I will report back once the locomitve arrives.