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mvd71		#1 Posted : 09 May 2023 06:33:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,720 Location: Auckland,		Hi all, Can anyone advise when the DB changed passenger coach lighting from the old yellow lighting to the new flouro lighting that the warm white led represents? Also, does anyone know of older coaches such as schürzenwagens had the lights replaced, or did the continue with the old style yellow lights through Tera 3? Thanks in advance. Mike


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H0		#2 Posted : 09 May 2023 08:14:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,265 Location: DE-NW		Hi, Mike, I only remember seeing coaches with electric lights. The yellow lights are gas lights. Light bulbs have warm-white light, neon lights are usually cold-white. If coaches have replications of generators (dynamos) at the trucks, then I would assume they have electric lights. This article says that experiments with electric lights in trains started 1881. http://www.zeno.org/Roel...htung+der+Eisenbahnwagen The first post here indicates that coaches used electric lights after about 1949. http://www.maetrix.net/t...fuer-Eisenbahnwagen.html This post indicates that gas lights were forbidden in Switzerland as of 1924: https://lokifahrer.ch/Lu...agen/Personenwagen-1.htm In 1923 a coach caught fire from the gas light after an accident.
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mvd71		#3 Posted : 09 May 2023 09:14:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,720 Location: Auckland,		Thanks Tom, I guess the 12 ESU yellow light kits I have may have been a mistake! Would be nice if I could use them on the schürzenwagens. Cheers…. Mike


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H0		#4 Posted : 09 May 2023 09:24:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,265 Location: DE-NW		The interior lights interact with the colour of the interior. Make a test with one of them. If it has the light-brown interiors then maybe the yellow lights will look quite good. Lights should not be too bright for a Schürzenwagen IMHO.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS


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mvd71		#5 Posted : 09 May 2023 09:37:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,720 Location: Auckland,		I will have to order a few warm white kits for the era 3 commuter trains and d-zug trains. I’ll try the yellow in the schurzenwagen and see how I get on. While on the subject of lighting and interiors, do you have any photos of the inside of silberlinge sand mitteleinsteigwagen in the area behind the control cab? Cheers….. Mike


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kiwiAlan		#6 Posted : 09 May 2023 20:09:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,104 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: mvd71 I will have to order a few warm white kits for the era 3 commuter trains and d-zug trains. I’ll try the yellow in the schurzenwagen and see how I get on. While on the subject of lighting and interiors, do you have any photos of the inside of silberlinge sand mitteleinsteigwagen in the area behind the control cab? Cheers….. Mike As Tom (H0) said, the yellow tends to look like gas lighting, so would be used in very old coaches. But I reckon the warm white is supposed to be tungsten lamps, and the cool white represent fluorescent lamps.

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