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I have many passenger cars, running on a hybrid Digital and Analog voltage. I have many older locomotives that I cherish, and more digital loks I also like. therefore, I either run from a digital trafo or a analog (older style) trafo. The lights in the passenger cars flicker and I know installing a capacitor will act as a steady battery and the lights will not flicker anymore. What capacitors should I use, and how are they to be installed? Also, I use current conducting couplers...
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Originally Posted by: Hans Haupt  I have many passenger cars, running on a hybrid Digital and Analog voltage. I have many older locomotives that I cherish, and more digital loks I also like. therefore, I either run from a digital trafo or a analog (older style) trafo. The lights in the passenger cars flicker and I know installing a capacitor will act as a steady battery and the lights will not flicker anymore. What capacitors should I use, and how are they to be installed? Also, I use current conducting couplers...
Parallel connect of small 470mF/25V capacitor. Shoe power (red) and wheel/wagon ground (black).  |
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Originally Posted by: BenP  Parallel connect of small 470mF/25V capacitor. For analogue operation and reversing voltages, better pick a 50 V capacitor. A resistor that limits the inrush current and a diode are useful add-ons. Only use capacitors for DC, i. e. behind a rectifier. You probably mean 470 µF or 0.470 mF. Long story short: difficult to recommend flicker protection without knowing what types of lights are installed. |
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Joined: 05/01/2021(UTC) Posts: 7 Location: Indiana, Indianapolis
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Originally Posted by: H0  Originally Posted by: BenP  Parallel connect of small 470mF/25V capacitor. For analogue operation and reversing voltages, better pick a 50 V capacitor. A resistor that limits the inrush current and a diode are useful add-ons. Only use capacitors for DC, i. e. behind a rectifier. You probably mean 470 µF or 0.470 mF. Long story short: difficult to recommend flicker protection without knowing what types of lights are installed. Many have LEDs, some I do not know, so will get both kinds. They are not very expensive. You mention a resistor and a diode, both seem useful. Any specs on those? and a schematic diagram would help as well. Thank You!
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Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW
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Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Originally Posted by: H0  Originally Posted by: BenP  Parallel connect of small 470mF/25V capacitor. For analogue operation and reversing voltages, better pick a 50 V capacitor. A resistor that limits the inrush current and a diode are useful add-ons. Only use capacitors for DC, i. e. behind a rectifier. You probably mean 470 µF or 0.470 mF. Long story short: difficult to recommend flicker protection without knowing what types of lights are installed. Sorry, microF, not milliF. The typical AC reverse pulse may damage LED strips, which are usually wired for less than 20V, whereas reversing pulse is closer to 25V (newer white transformers) or even more (old blue transformers). I use rectifier (and capacitor) for digital current from track to LEDS, but not for basic AC lighting of building with LEDs (powered by inexpensive 18V transformer). |
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I used a pair of 50v 1000 uf capacitors in my tinplate carriages which operate on both analogue and digital by way of tiny bridge rectifiers. No flickering on a 5 coach consist with one pickup shoe and connections through 1.25 twin sockets. In my first conversion, i used one car as a master with the resistor and bridge supplying all other cars, but each car has2 of those capacitors. They are big, but I found smaller uf wasn't anywhere as good. If you fit them up under the roof, you cant really see them. I also used strip LEDs. On later plastic coaches with current carrying conductors, I started using capacitors, resistors and bridges in each coach. Only flicker with them was caused by the conductor couplings. |
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