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Offline Donb  
#1 Posted : 26 January 2022 18:55:52(UTC)
Donb

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Location: Fraser Valley
Hi,

I am considering converting this locomotive to digital using the 60906 decoder. The loco in pristine new condition, so I feel I'd like to retain the original parts as much as possible.
My question is regarding the light output of the 60906, the light bulbs in this loco are only 1.5 volt. I'm thinking that the output of the 60906 light circuits is probably 16 volt? I've looked in the manual and I don't see anything about that.

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Best Regards,
Don
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CS3, ( Commander is now retired) , C track and Z scale, mostly DB/DR and SBB, SJ
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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 27 January 2022 09:32:15(UTC)
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Hi!
Originally Posted by: Donb Go to Quoted Post
I'm thinking that the output of the 60906 light circuits is probably 16 volt?
It's the full track voltage minus the losses in the decoder. With 22 V on the track you could get 20 V there.

Maybe Märklin offer that type of bulbs in a version for 22 V for digital operation. When using the type for analogue operation (19 V) you can reduce the brightness using decoder settings.
Regards
Tom
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Offline Donb  
#3 Posted : 27 January 2022 16:51:31(UTC)
Donb

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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Hi!
Originally Posted by: Donb Go to Quoted Post
I'm thinking that the output of the 60906 light circuits is probably 16 volt?
It's the full track voltage minus the losses in the decoder. With 22 V on the track you could get 20 V there.

Maybe Märklin offer that type of bulbs in a version for 22 V for digital operation. When using the type for analogue operation (19 V) you can reduce the brightness using decoder settings.


Hi Tom,

Thanks for the info. I may have found a solution in my own parts drawer, I use these Viessmann house lamps in some of my structures. Rated at 16 volts ac, and the bulb fits perfectly in the locomotive socket. So this might work if as you say I can reduce the voltage to the bulbs in the decoder settings.

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Best Regards,
Don
___________________________________________________________________________________
CS3, ( Commander is now retired) , C track and Z scale, mostly DB/DR and SBB, SJ
Offline H0  
#4 Posted : 27 January 2022 17:04:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Donb Go to Quoted Post
So this might work if as you say I can reduce the voltage to the bulbs in the decoder settings.
You can reduce the effective voltage. With bulbs for 16 V there should be no issues. Don't try this with bulbs made for 1.5 V though.

Regards
Tom
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"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Offline Donb  
#5 Posted : 10 February 2022 23:54:38(UTC)
Donb

Canada   
Joined: 03/04/2013(UTC)
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Location: Fraser Valley
The 60906 Decoder arrived in the mail a few days ago, so I completed the conversion with this decoder.
Ignoring the good advice from other members to avoid this conversion, I pressed on because of curiosity.
I'm actually quite pleased with the result. It has the analog hum at startup, but when she's running she's pretty quiet. The deceleration delay works rather well.
The bulbs worked out perfectly.
That's me in the cab checking gauges before departure!

And I didn't mean to put BR in front of the 3366 in the title. Don't know how to change that.

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Best Regards,
Don
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