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Offline Rwill  
#1 Posted : 12 June 2019 13:10:32(UTC)
Rwill

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Location: England, London
You will regularly see on my hopelessly unprototypical layout one of my first Marklin purchases a consist of Sliberlinge coaches 4255/6/7 being pushed (pulled) by a little class 96 tank, a v60, or a Br216 and even on occasion Br218. Now notwithstanding that none of these may be "correct" I can never quite work out what the control cab is achieving. Is it manned by a driver or a guard. Is he just sending signals/instructions to lok driver or is he somehow remote controlling the lok or does he simply have an emergency brake when he can see disaster ahead?
Offline Henrik Schütz  
#2 Posted : 12 June 2019 13:25:29(UTC)
Henrik Schütz

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Location: Stockholms Lan, Stockholm
Only Br216 and Br218, of your locos ran with control cab cars, Normaly the driver runs the train from the control cab, with a long cable/wire to the locomotive. The brakes are operated in the same way as when driven from the locomotive, with a valve.

Steamlocomotive BR23 did also run with silberlinge with drivers cab, then the driver braked in the normal way, but sent electric telegrams to an indicator in the locomotive, being red by the fireman, who regulated the machinery.

The cable was wery thick, and all intermediate cars needed to have it installed.

Today the connection is with computer telegrams througt the same UIC Cable used for doors and loudspeekers.

The modern system is standardized, you can run all equipped locomotives from all equipped cars witf a cab basically.

Henrik Schütz
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Offline TEEWolf  
#3 Posted : 12 June 2019 16:16:36(UTC)
TEEWolf

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Location: Bavaria
Originally Posted by: Rwill Go to Quoted Post
You will regularly see on my hopelessly unprototypical layout one of my first Marklin purchases a consist of Sliberlinge coaches 4255/6/7 being pushed (pulled) by a little class 96 tank, a v60, or a Br216 and even on occasion Br218. Now notwithstanding that none of these may be "correct" I can never quite work out what the control cab is achieving. Is it manned by a driver or a guard. Is he just sending signals/instructions to lok driver or is he somehow remote controlling the lok or does he simply have an emergency brake when he can see disaster ahead?


The driver in the controll cab is the engine driver himself from the loco. The control cab then is the "locomotive" with the same functions, even the loco works at the other end of the train. This is a so called push-pull train (German: Wendezug). Such trains are always used as shuttle trains without the possibility to turn around neither the complete train nor only the loco at their final stop station. In this contral cab car the engine driver does the same job as otherwise in the loco.
CS 3 is a controller system from Märklin - not a central station.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#4 Posted : 12 June 2019 19:48:58(UTC)
Alsterstreek

Portugal   
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Another contribution, ignoring electric locos: Photos of various steam locos with "Silberling-Wendezug" - see links below.

class 23 steamer
http://www.noetzel24.de/index.php?id=85

class 65 steamer (scroll down)
http://www.noetzel24.de/index.php?id=92

class 78 steamer
http://www.noetzel24.de/index.php?id=86

And as bonus one diesel - V100:
http://www.noetzel24.de/index.php?id=88
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Offline stockerta  
#5 Posted : 13 June 2019 18:19:47(UTC)
stockerta

Hungary   
Joined: 30/07/2018(UTC)
Posts: 34
Location: Gyor-Moson-Sopron, Sopron
Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Another contribution, ignoring electric locos: Photos of various steam locos with "Silberling-Wendezug" - see links below.

class 23 steamer
http://www.noetzel24.de/index.php?id=85

class 65 steamer (scroll down)
http://www.noetzel24.de/index.php?id=92

class 78 steamer
http://www.noetzel24.de/index.php?id=86

And as bonus one diesel - V100:
http://www.noetzel24.de/index.php?id=88


That mixed silberling - freight train with the V100 in the middle is very interesting. Huh
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