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Offline BrandonVA  
#1 Posted : 29 March 2016 16:38:20(UTC)
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Hello all,

I created this thread as a place to display "odd" arrangements of motive power. Perhaps it's a lashup that's not typical. A locomotive doing a job it was not intended to do. Some unexpected helper service.

Here are a few examples to get the ball rolling:

A BR 023 pulling freight in front of a BR 050, Baden-Wurtemburg Germany in 1971:

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Source: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=319707&nseq=279

BR 01 pulling a relatively short train up the Schife Ebene in Bavaria, Germany. Looks like she still needs some help, no problem, a 220 diesel was happy to help.

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Source: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=242187&nseq=282

I know everyone was suprised the first picture wasn't Rio Grande. Don't worry. Here'se a GP hood unit and a F9B unit working as helpers West of Rollinsville, CO in 1968. Also of note, the Rio Grande Caboose and Santa Fe (All the way) boxcar at the end of the train.

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#2 Posted : 29 March 2016 21:51:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
Also of note, the Rio Grande Caboose and Santa Fe (All the way) boxcar at the end of the train.

Noted.

:o)
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#3 Posted : 30 March 2016 15:07:26(UTC)
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#4 Posted : 30 March 2016 15:21:17(UTC)
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Who spots the oddity (it is not about the colors)?
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#5 Posted : 30 March 2016 15:34:50(UTC)
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For people modeling the Sauerland on their layout:
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211 hauled special train needed 218 support after getting stuck near Züschen, 1992.
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#6 Posted : 30 March 2016 15:37:27(UTC)
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Siemens spur in Essen-Nord, 1996:
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2 x 218 deliver a ICE 402 for technical upgrade to Siemens.
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Offline H0  
#7 Posted : 30 March 2016 15:46:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Who spots the oddity (it is not about the colors)?
It's odd that the loco has the rear pantograph up (assuming it is an approaching train). Would also be odd if she was pushing the train.
If she was hauling such a train, I'd expect the front pantograph to be up. Pushing such a train I'd expect to see the rear pantograph in use.

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#8 Posted : 30 March 2016 16:06:52(UTC)
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Well spotted, I did not even think of that.
I was intrigued by the the two cab unit coaches at each end of the three-coach consist.
:o)
Offline Oliver SBB-CFF-FFS  
#9 Posted : 30 March 2016 17:36:02(UTC)
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Here is one for the books. I find it very interesting!Cool


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SBB Era IV - VI
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#10 Posted : 30 March 2016 17:55:10(UTC)
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Nice idea Brandon.ThumpUp
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#11 Posted : 30 March 2016 20:29:05(UTC)
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Hamburg-stationed 103 locos in need of inspection running "cold" with regular trains in the 1980s (The 103 was not equipped for multiple-unit operation).
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#12 Posted : 30 March 2016 20:30:45(UTC)
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Hamburg, 1987.
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#13 Posted : 30 March 2016 20:38:51(UTC)
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Neuss, Germany, 1991.
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Between Wien and Wiener Neustadt, Austria, 2012.
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#14 Posted : 31 March 2016 09:10:30(UTC)
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Berlin-Karow, 2014.
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#15 Posted : 31 March 2016 09:59:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Oliver SBB-CFF-FFS Go to Quoted Post
Here is one for the books. I find it very interesting!Cool


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Looks like the Re460 is being transported along a narrow gauge line for some mysterious reason, but why is there a driver in the cab?
Ray
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Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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#16 Posted : 31 March 2016 14:24:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Oliver SBB-CFF-FFS Go to Quoted Post
Here is one for the books. I find it very interesting!Cool
Looks like the Re460 is being transported along a narrow gauge line for some mysterious reason, but why is there a driver in the cab?

Very mysterious.

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#17 Posted : 31 March 2016 14:25:40(UTC)
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So, let us remain in mysterious Switzerland. German DB showing off in 2015 with three locos...
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...and four locos.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#18 Posted : 31 March 2016 21:31:22(UTC)
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Swiss Ae 476 (former DR class 242) heading for new adventures in Germany in 2003.
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#19 Posted : 01 April 2016 02:30:16(UTC)
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2008 UEFA European Soccer Championship celebrated in Austria (no April joke).
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Offline Carim  
#20 Posted : 01 April 2016 10:55:10(UTC)
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2008 UEFA European Soccer Championship celebrated in Austria (no April joke).
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This is doing my head in! LOL

In my days modelling British "blue" diesels, it was considered daring if a depot painted the roof of a diesel silver and stuck a great big Union Jack on the side......

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Offline BrandonVA  
#21 Posted : 01 April 2016 19:43:15(UTC)
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Kittle lead-off for triple motive power on an 8 coach consist in Epfenhofen, Germany, 2007:

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Source: http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/0/0/9/4009.1398103664.jpg

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Offline BrandonVA  
#22 Posted : 01 April 2016 20:32:55(UTC)
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Another historic railtrip mashup; S3/6 and BR01, Leubsdorf am Rhein, Germany, 2011

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Source: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=486860&nseq=264

-Brandon
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#23 Posted : 02 April 2016 20:11:29(UTC)
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Wuppertal-Ronsdorf
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#24 Posted : 03 April 2016 14:22:34(UTC)
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Swiss Ae 476 (former DR class 242) heading for new adventures in Germany in 2003.


I guess someone did a bulk buy ... BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin
Offline BrandonVA  
#25 Posted : 06 April 2016 17:35:21(UTC)
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Here's another Rio Grande mashup:

GP40, F9A, F9B, and former Alco PB converted to steam generator pulling the Rio Grande Zephyr in Denver, 1976.

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Source: http://www.railpixs.com/drg/a-RGZ_GrandJct_Nov76a.jpg

-Brandon

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#26 Posted : 06 April 2016 19:09:41(UTC)
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Class 41 + class 01 leaving Brilon-Wald on May 2, 2010.
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#27 Posted : 08 April 2016 13:22:26(UTC)
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#28 Posted : 08 April 2016 14:05:19(UTC)
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Offline BrandonVA  
#29 Posted : 11 April 2016 21:18:04(UTC)
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My contribution for the day, continual beating of a dead horse....

D&RGW F7A-B-B with a GP9. Rio Grande would also often run A-B-GP9-B-A sets, nicknamed "Perlman Mallets" after Alfred Perlman; a Rio Grande Executive. This is a "hospital train", removing cars from the site of a wreck near the East Portal of the Moffat Tunnel (Tolland), seen in Rollinsville, CO, 1966. This is a "short" train, looks to be about 28 cars including the caboose.

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-Brandon
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#30 Posted : 28 April 2016 19:40:50(UTC)
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Langenstein, Germany, 1984
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Semmeringbahn, Austria, 2011
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Neuenmarkt-Wirsberg, Germany (recently)
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Neuenmarkt, class 01 pulls and class 41 pushes


Biberbrugg, Switzerland, 2013
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Saarbruecken, Germany, 1973
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Marbach, Germany, 2001(?)
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#31 Posted : 01 May 2016 13:52:53(UTC)
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Regular train near Sande, 1987

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Special train near Sande, 2011
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#32 Posted : 01 May 2016 15:15:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post

DSC_1383-02.jpg
Special train near Sande, 2011


This photo with the significant size difference makes it quite clear why Br 212 vs railbus can be so tragic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.o.../Dahlerau_train_disaster
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But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
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#33 Posted : 03 May 2016 10:13:36(UTC)
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A couple of NZ oddities, courtesy of NZ Rail Action on you tube;





Regards,

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#34 Posted : 03 May 2016 14:56:39(UTC)
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A couple of NZ oddities, courtesy of NZ Rail Action on you tube;

Ganz Mavag EMU on KiwiRail Freight 735

KiwiRail Silver Fern on Freight Train 730

Regards,

Michael.


Hi Cool

Why 2 coaches ?

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#35 Posted : 03 May 2016 15:25:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
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Here is one for the books. I find it very interesting!Cool
Looks like the Re460 is being transported along a narrow gauge line for some mysterious reason, but why is there a driver in the cab?

Very mysterious.


A slightly belated answer to your question: If you look at the original picture caption written here by my friend Georg Trüb ( http://www.railpictures..../viewphoto.php?id=280256 ) you will note that the standard gauge Re 460 standing on the transporter trucks was pushed by the narrow gauge railcar in the background. Therefore, the driver in the loco's cab acted as a "lookout" and was probably also equipped with a walkie-talkie or a cellphone to alert the "real" driver in case of an emergency or obstacle.
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#36 Posted : 04 May 2016 01:22:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Token Go to Quoted Post
A couple of NZ oddities, courtesy of NZ Rail Action on you tube;

Ganz Mavag EMU on KiwiRail Freight 735

KiwiRail Silver Fern on Freight Train 730

Regards,

Michael.


Hi Cool

Why 2 coaches ?

Thewolf


New Zealand is only a small country!!!!!!! Maybe.
Northland. NZ REMEMBER 0228 for ä
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#37 Posted : 04 May 2016 10:50:52(UTC)
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This photo with the significant size difference makes it quite clear why Br 212 vs railbus can be so tragic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.o.../Dahlerau_train_disaster


That's a really sad story.
Carim
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#38 Posted : 04 May 2016 13:30:41(UTC)
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That's a really sad story.
Carim


Devastating. I can not imagine what life was like in Radevormwald.
Matt
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DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
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#39 Posted : 05 May 2016 16:11:50(UTC)
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On the Rockville bridge 5 miles North of Enola Yard in Pennsylvania is this lashup:

2x NS C40-9W
1x BNSF ES44DC
1x Conrail (NS) SW1001,
1x NS C40-9W
1x NS GP38-2.

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-Brandon
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#40 Posted : 05 May 2016 16:13:21(UTC)
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Here is, (I think), GP9, F7A(x2), GP9 with some Marklin coloured boxcars. Location and date unknown.

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-Brandon
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#41 Posted : 06 May 2016 12:51:20(UTC)
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Old Railrodder´s favorite song: "Love me tender"
Here: 3 x tender ?
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#42 Posted : 06 May 2016 12:54:09(UTC)
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Alco FA 2 teaming up with EMD F7 for hauling the GN International
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#43 Posted : 06 May 2016 18:22:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Old Railrodder´s favorite song: "Love me tender"
Here: 3 x tender ?


Looks more like a case of "water, water everywhere, and not a drop for steam" (with apologies to The Ancient Mariner).

Guess it gives a new definition to a tender behind ... Laugh

But the extra two look rather like they should be behind a turbine loco Confused Confused Confused
Maybe it was a way of shipping from the shop to somewhere they were needed, or a shipment of fuel.


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#44 Posted : 06 May 2016 18:34:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Old Railrodder´s favorite song: "Love me tender"
Here: 3 x tender ?


Very good :)

I believe this is UP Challenger 3985, which was retired from general UP service in 1957 and restored to operation in 1981. In 1990 it was converted to oil burning. I have seen a few shots of this loco with multiple tenders. My guess is that since there is no rail infrastructure to fuel oil burning steam engines, they took a lot of fuel and water on long excursions.

Segway, UP 3985 in 1994 sporting it's triplet tenders and an A-B-A of E9s:

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-Brandon
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#45 Posted : 06 May 2016 18:48:06(UTC)
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I believe this is UP Challenger 3985, which was retired from general UP service in 1957 and restored to operation in 1981. In 1990 it was converted to oil burning. I have seen a few shots of this loco with multiple tenders. My guess is that since there is no rail infrastructure to fuel oil burning steam engines, they took a lot of fuel and water on long excursions.


Ah, that is a reasonable explanation. Makes a lot of sense.

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#46 Posted : 07 May 2016 01:49:08(UTC)
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#47 Posted : 07 May 2016 01:51:35(UTC)
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#48 Posted : 07 May 2016 01:54:39(UTC)
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Former German Democratic Republic: diesel pulls steamer under wire...
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Germany 1917
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Various Deutsche Bundesbahn oddities
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#49 Posted : 07 May 2016 01:56:11(UTC)
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#50 Posted : 07 May 2016 01:57:43(UTC)
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Head on !
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