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Thank you Stephen. 
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Edit Remove Nikos insert Panayoti [:I], Nice buying congratulations.
Soon you will need a Croc/gator minder.
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NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by foumaro<br />I picked up on ebay a 3022. I am gonna get her i think by the end of the week. So three gators in my collection Very good, Panayoti ! Give us the pics, then [:p] |
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Thank you very much,anyway Nikos is the other Greek,i am Panayotis. Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw
<br />Nikos, Nice buying congratulations.
Soon you will need a Croc/gator minder.
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Thank you John,i will post photos when i get her.I will try now to buy the orange livery we saw above.We will see. Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by foumaro<br />I picked up on ebay a 3022. I am gonna get her i think by the end of the week. So three gators in my collection Very good, Panayoti ! Give us the pics, then [:p]
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by foumaro<br />Thank you very much,anyway Nikos is the other Greek,i am Panayotis. Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw
<br />Nikos, EDIT REmove Nikos) insert Panayoti Nice buying congratulations.
Soon you will need a Croc/gator minder.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by alonso231gery<br /> David Very nice krokodils , as i can see you are now a krok addict . Oh yes, absolutely Nikos. I prefer the green Kroks to the brown ones, but I may get a brown one one day. However, I like the look of the mfx Krok that is in the Swiss Mega Starter set (and the AE 6/6 too). Some members of our local Marklin club have both green and brown 1 Gauge Kroks, they are very impressive. I have posted these pictures before, but here they are again:   And here is my 39560 running on our club's HO layout at Model Railway exhibition recently held here.  Edited by moderator 11 January 2011 20:32:23(UTC)
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Very nice pictures, Bigdaddynz.
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<br />I have posted these pictures before, but here they are again Always great joy to look at 'em - thanks again, David  |
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Thanks John and Steven. Our club members also had the 1 Gauge layout at the exhibition, but I was busy looking after the HO layout, so I didn't get much of a chance to take more photos of it.
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Very nice photos, David
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Looking through M's great history several changes come to mind ... In the year 1995 there have been three LFCM/DCM Gators: #3335, #3322, #3722 [:p][:p][:p]  Turn of the century saw three BIG-SINUS Gators: #39221, #39222, #39223     And today: NO SINGLE ONE LEFT. All of them cancelled by some guys with no idea about MRR. They deleted most of the U.S. stuff, and they deleted all the excellent Gators [xx(][xx(][xx(] In short words, they cancelled most of the high quality classics collectors would buy Seems economical harakiri makes 'em sharp. No wonder the company is in such state ... |
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The last of them was the blue 37224.Maybe you are right John.[V]
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I have the 39221. It runs very smooth.
Pity they're gone. |
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The three last king, with the great, unbeatable, unbelievable, original "C sinus", the best engine in the world. The rest is fried air... |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by foumaro
<br />The last of them was the blue 37224.Maybe you are right John.[V]
I alrady have 39223 and 37224 as well.[^] |
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And now they even scrapped the last Crocodile [xx(][xx(][xx(]
They delete all of their heritage locos. No Gators, no Crocs. If this goes on ...
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No worry, John.
It will be back next year or so. |
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Keep an eye open John for the older models. With the present economic situation there may be some Marklin stuff coming to the market.
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You're surely right, David (can't get enough of M's best engine, ever) But at least we can visit Al's dream Gators [:p][:p][:p] at Collectors Corner ... |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />No worry, John. It will be back next year or so. Sounds great, Steven ... but do we have proof for this  |
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I'm sure the E94/194 will be back; there is too big a following for the lok. It's probably being redesigned for the SDS with 4 axle drive (like the E50 that just came out). It will return better than ever!
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I'm not sure if perhaps you have written about this topic before, but could you tell me which are the main differences between 3015/3056/3356, and which of these have plastic or metal shells?
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This information is according Märklin Archiv:
3015:
Produced from 1947 to 1975 in 11 different versions. From 1947 to 1957 number CCS 800
One central motor (very large flat commutator motor) powering all six driving axels.
Electro mechanical reversing unit.
All metal body, 26,6 cm long.
3056:
Produced from 1976 to 1981 in four different version.
Running number 13 302
A drum commutator motor installed in the rear part of the loco powers three axels.
Electro mechanical reversing unit.
Plastic body, 22,8 cm long
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Version 1, produced from 1982 to 1986
Running number 13 302
A drum commutator motor installed in the rear part of the loco powers three axels.
Electronically controlled reversing unit
Plastic body, 22,8 cm long
Version 2, produced from 1986 to 1989
Running number 13 303
A drum commutator motor installed in the rear part of the loco powers three axels.
Electronically controlled reversing unit
Lights changing with the driving direction
Plastic body, 23 cm long
Version 3, produced from 1996 to 2001
Running number 13 305
A drum commutator motor installed in the rear part of the loco powers three axels.
Delta decoder
Lights changing with the driving direction
All metal body, 23 cm long
Version 4, produced from 1998 to 1999 for train set 28730
Running number 13 304
A drum commutator motor installed in the rear part of the loco powers three axels.
Delta decoder
Lights changing with the driving direction
All metal body, 23 cm long
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Many thanks Svein!
So even if you are looking for a metal shell krok you should be careful as some 3356 are plastic and other are metal...
In any case it's a very nice locomotive.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder
<br />This information is according Märklin Archiv:
3356:
Version 1, produced from 1982 to 1986
Running number 13 302
A drum commutator motor installed in the rear part of the loco powers three axels.
Electronically controlled reversing unit
Plastic body, 22,8 cm long
That's interesting. My 3356 with road number 13 302 (see the picture at the top of page 6 of this thread) very much has a metal body!
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That's interesting. But are you sure it's a 3356? As far as I know, all types of 3356 had black wheels and unpainted handrails, like this:  Your picture with yellow handrails and grey wheels seem to be from a more recent model. Could it be? Regards. |
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Agree, I got the 3300 set and that croc does have a metal body, yellow handrails, grey wheels, and road number 13302 |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by pserup<br /> Agree, I got the 3300 set and that croc does have a metal body, yellow handrails, grey wheels, and road number 13302 Agree, Gentlemen - mine is the very same ... |
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Thanks Guys, the loco was sold to me as a 3356, but come to think of it the guy who sold it to me also had some of the anniversary sets for sale.
Anyway, since I posted the picture of the loco in this thread I have upgraded the loco with a 60760 kit, and may even put a loksound in it later on (with swiss lights!??)
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I also have the 3300, made in 1985.  I have converted it with the mfx set 60921 and rebuilt the front lights to the Swiss light change. It required these parts: 259150 lamp holder (2x) 207990 light guide (2x) 1N4148 diode (2x) It is identical to 3356 verison 1 regarding length and lights, but has a metal body and different colour scheme. See my croc list at http://www.saebonet.com/svein/T...tes/loco_types/Crocs.htm |
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Beautiful gator, er, croc. Like it.
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Thanks for the info Svein. Did you use the swiss light setup as described in the Lokpilot / Loksound v3 manuals?
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by almagik<br /> 3300 at work  From the page 4 of this topic I'm thinking about to convert the two loco with a loksound decoder, but I like it in the original condition too, what I must do? |
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Let your stomach decide ... |
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Awesome collection John! Reptilian beauty at it's best! Am proud owner of one Hammo 8356. Would love a 39560, maybe someday. Is it's gearing more prototypical?
I have one other gator, a Roco E-91 geared slow, the motor screams when powered more than half way up. It has great tourqe for pulling many cars though.
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Oops!, I forgot my baby croc, a brown DE 6/6.
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Go for it, Alberto
I converted my 3300 locomotives with Märklin 60921 and 60924 mfx conversion sets and made the Swiss light change on the Be 6/8.
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I have been looking through all the pages of this topic.
A great topic with a lot of nice photos [:p]
I am happy. |
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Thanks , Spitzen and Svein ... But it were nothing without Al's masterpiece pictures [:p] [:p] [:p] |
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First message 2005/5/10, more of three years of life, great!!! Croco fever is always high. |
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I have mentioned it before, but..
My fever started in 1974, when I, as a young Inter-railer, stood at the platform in Winterthur, Switzerland.
A Crocodile, without any cars, passed me just a couple of meters away. The platform was vibrating as the big locomotive passed.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder
<br />A Crocodile, without any cars, passed me just a couple of meters away.
The platform was vibrating as the big locomotive passed. Coolness, Svein ... |
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I was living in Switzerland (Lausanne)in 1960 when I was 10. There was a guy who had a huge layout in his garage in an apartment building nearby. He must have had 10 or more Crocs on the layout. I never forgot.
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Great pic Marty |
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